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Davy Jones' talking head

Discussion in 'Hoist the Colours (Jack Sparrow)' started by Grey Roger, Jun 7, 2017.

  1. Grey Roger

    Grey Roger Sea Dog Staff Member Storm Modder

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    Cutler Beckett burns the Wicked Wench and orders you onto his ship. After a storm, you meet Davy Jones, who has no talking head.

    The reason is in case "storm_complete":
    Code:
               if(GetAttribute(pchar, "Davy") == "helped")
               {
                   Characters[GetCharacterIndex("Davy Jones")].model = "9JC";
                   Characters[GetCharacterIndex("Davy Jones")].headmodel = "h_9JC";
               }
               else
               {
                   SetNextWeather("Super Fog"); // PB
                   Characters[GetCharacterIndex("Davy Jones")].headmodel = ""; // PB
               }
    @Pieter Boelen: is there a reason why Davy Jones is set to have no head model? Apart from making him faceless, it produces this error in "system.log":
    Code:
    resource\models\Heads\.gm: can't open geometry file
    Cannot open animation file resource\animation\Heads\.ani
    Granted, the scene is super foggy so you can't see Jones himself, but Sparrow - er, Captain Sparrow - is standing right in front of him. So you on behalf of the Captain should perhaps be able to see Davy Jones' talking head face even if you as the player can't see the rest of him.
     
  2. Pieter Boelen

    Pieter Boelen (Not So) Old Seadog Staff Member Administrator Storm Modder Hearts of Oak Donator

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    Yes, there is!

    Our (read: my) thinking at the time was that Jack almost drowned and, being Jack. is probably half-drunk too.
    So he doesn't quite have his wits about him and doesn't notice that Davy Jones looks as insane as he does.
    That makes it more believable to me that Jack would agree to Davy's terms, because at that point in the storyline, he hasn't really seen anything yet to suggest that the supernatural is real.

    This is also the reason I added that "Super Fog" weather. The scene is supposed to be as surreal/dreamlike as possible.
    So that after the deal, Jack can end up wondering if it was even real at all.
    That also explains why he wasn't fussed about his own debt during the first film, but only in the second one.
     
  3. Grey Roger

    Grey Roger Sea Dog Staff Member Storm Modder

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    Fair enough, I'll leave it alone.

    Though my impression, from the storyline more than the films, is that Jack isn't fussed about obligations to anyone, supernatural or otherwise, until they catch up with him. He's quite happy to take the Wicked Wench regardless of any agreement he may have had with Cutler Beckett, right up until the moment Beckett catches up with him. His thought on Davy Jones' deal is that he has 13 years to figure out how to get out of it. The second film is presumably 13 years later, he hasn't managed to get out of the deal, and Jones has caught up with him.
     
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    Pieter Boelen (Not So) Old Seadog Staff Member Administrator Storm Modder Hearts of Oak Donator

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    I think, to some extent, that is definitely true also in the films.

    This change to the scene came about mainly due to massive brainstorming we did back in the days:
    Pirates 4 Script
    Of course that is not officially canonical, but I don't care. It makes a whole lot more sense than the REAL canon! :rofl
     
  5. Pieter Boelen

    Pieter Boelen (Not So) Old Seadog Staff Member Administrator Storm Modder Hearts of Oak Donator

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    I was younger then and thought she was supposed to be Dutch since the name sounded quite Dutch. ;)

    :rofl :rofl :rofl

    Now you mention it, yes of COURSE you already did that! Damn my memory. :whipa

    Maybe the blood red dress that Barbossa gave her would be more appropriate....

    :rofl :razz :rofl

    I wonder if @Jack Rackham would be willing to provide some support there again...? :rolleyes:

    Indeed they don't see so much use.
    Though having Jack's crew around (they could be walking around on deck too!), would certainly add a lot of flavour.

    And Mr. Mercer should have some significance. But he doesn't, really.

    Anyway, this is all optional. It hasn't been done in years, so we'll survive without them just fine.
     

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