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<!--quoteo(post=172931:date=Nov 21 2006, 02:55 PM:name=ledhed)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ledhed @ Nov 21 2006, 02:55 PM) [snapback]172931[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Is there a way to get the French and all the other idiots to not be hostile so I can be like a trader for a while ?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Try flying a Portugese flag. They're not at war with anyone except pirates, far as I know.

Of course, there's still a chance that your false flag will be detected. Just to make things exciting. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

Hook
 
<!--quoteo(post=172938:date=Nov 21 2006, 02:11 PM:name=Hook)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Hook @ Nov 21 2006, 02:11 PM) [snapback]172938[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
<!--quoteo(post=172931:date=Nov 21 2006, 02:55 PM:name=ledhed)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ledhed @ Nov 21 2006, 02:55 PM) [snapback]172931[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Is there a way to get the French and all the other idiots to not be hostile so I can be like a trader for a while ?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Try flying a Portugese flag. They're not at war with anyone except pirates, far as I know.

Of course, there's still a chance that your false flag will be detected. Just to make things exciting. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

Hook
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Man is this frustrating...I taked to a french guy in a tavern after infiltrating Oxbay to gather infomation..this is AFTER I had a whole load of fights with people denouncing me and such....I get the dude drun..blah blah he tells me the crap he has to tell ...I gotta take him to see my " sisters " to I gather kill him and escape ...the scene changes from the freaking tavern and I am standing next to an exit only O cant do squat..I cant use the friggin space bar I can strafe back and forth...but in short I am bugged ...rooted to the spot..meh so much for that getting into the game thing...so is this a common bug ? Or should I just give up playing the main quest ?

I have no clue what I could have done but I am really pissed to lose all the loot and levels I gained from fighting.

BTW you can only use so many save slots...I was playing like AOP and saving every two minutes..but this game SEEMED pretty stable...

What do I do ?
 
<!--quoteo(post=172946:date=Nov 21 2006, 04:34 PM:name=ledhed)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ledhed @ Nov 21 2006, 04:34 PM) [snapback]172946[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Man is this frustrating...I taked to a french guy in a tavern after infiltrating Oxbay to gather infomation..this is AFTER I had a whole load of fights with people denouncing me and such....I get the dude drun..blah blah he tells me the crap he has to tell ...I gotta take him to see my " sisters " to I gather kill him and escape ...the scene changes from the freaking tavern and I am standing next to an exit only O cant do squat..I cant use the friggin space bar I can strafe back and forth...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You're supposed to wait until you're outside of town to kill the guy! Or you can let him go if you wish. After you talk to him.

If he's dead before you can leave town, the town gates will probably remain locked. He has to be there to enable the gates to be unlocked.

I've never had any problems with this quest, but I don't have the most recent version of the code.

Hook
 
But it never seemed like we left town ..I can only assume he was drunk in the tavern...he never showed up to open the gate...so I assume thats the bug and why I was immobile..



Drinitately bugged cant advance the story just tried it again same thing happened...screw it.

I still have a bunch of ships in redmond....Just cant play the story.


Kinda sucks .
 
ledhed: I've never gotten that bug. You get the french cap'n drunk, you both walk out of town, 'visit' your cousin's, get the info from him you need, then you can kill him(loss of reputation) of you let him go.

If you've got a save from just before you go into Oxbay, I'd say start from there again. You need to go into the tavern, talk to the barkeep and make arrangements with him, then drink with the french officer 'til you head outside. Don't do anything until you and he have left town together. Once you are both outside of town, walk out to the fork in the path, wait for him there.

Thats when storyline will actually continue.

Cap'n Drow
 
<!--quoteo(post=172915:date=Nov 21 2006, 07:51 PM:name=ledhed)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ledhed @ Nov 21 2006, 07:51 PM) [snapback]172915[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
" drink some of me whiskey and put some fire in yer belly "

You never ran into the monk that he was calling a guy with a potato sack over his head ? Or A Potato head with scurvy ? The one that wants to give you three relics one that will keep you from leaving the island until you found another member of his order ?
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The first was in there in the stock game. The second was added a couple of months ago, just for fun. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=172959:date=Nov 22 2006, 03:01 AM:name=ledhed)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ledhed @ Nov 22 2006, 03:01 AM) [snapback]172959[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
But it never seemed like we left town ..I can only assume he was drunk in the tavern...he never showed up to open the gate...so I assume thats the bug and why I was immobile..
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That's really weird. I played that part of the game quite recently and it was working just fine then. I recommend you try again. If you still get the same problem, could you upload a savegame somewhere?
 
<!--quoteo(post=172996:date=Nov 22 2006, 07:58 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Nov 22 2006, 07:58 AM) [snapback]172996[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
<!--quoteo(post=172915:date=Nov 21 2006, 07:51 PM:name=ledhed)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ledhed @ Nov 21 2006, 07:51 PM) [snapback]172915[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
" drink some of me whiskey and put some fire in yer belly "

You never ran into the monk that he was calling a guy with a potato sack over his head ? Or A Potato head with scurvy ? The one that wants to give you three relics one that will keep you from leaving the island until you found another member of his order ?
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The first was in there in the stock game. The second was added a couple of months ago, just for fun. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=172959:date=Nov 22 2006, 03:01 AM:name=ledhed)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ledhed @ Nov 22 2006, 03:01 AM) [snapback]172959[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
But it never seemed like we left town ..I can only assume he was drunk in the tavern...he never showed up to open the gate...so I assume thats the bug and why I was immobile..
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That's really weird. I played that part of the game quite recently and it was working just fine then. I recommend you try again. If you still get the same problem, could you upload a savegame somewhere?
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Well it was the 13.9 version I was playing ...I just last night redowloaded the 13 final build and reinstalled it...as you know you said I had to start a new game...I figured I could start a ship collection again...You do run into man o wars and line ships do you not ?

At any rate in my new game I ended up with a Frigate...I boarded and was down to 3 crew and my two officers are killed...I had to fight in the cabin by meself but I had a Brace of Medium pistols and a decent blade from a chest I looted....I get me Frigate and even with all transfered end up with only 93 crew...from both ships combined. As I be making my gettaway ....I get DISMASTED !!!!!!!!! CRIKEYS that sucks !!! I'm pressin the R button and blowing on the monitor....rockin in me chair....watching the white line go to almost nil...then the blue bar......then the red bar...I figure meself for a former frigate owner in a row boat.....and the world map ICON pops up....... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/piratesing.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shock" border="0" alt="piratesing.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/keith.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":keith" border="0" alt="keith.gif" />


<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/danse1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":dance" border="0" alt="danse1.gif" />



<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/buds.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":drunk" border="0" alt="buds.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/buds.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":drunk" border="0" alt="buds.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/buds.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":drunk" border="0" alt="buds.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/buds.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":drunk" border="0" alt="buds.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />


Never had anything like THAT happen in AoP ..... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" />
 
ALL RIGHT ....I dare someone to tell me some broad in the Pirate tavern DID NOT just tell me .." DISNEY IS GOING TO SHIT ON YOUR BED WHILE YOU ARE ASLEEP "


You are all a bunch of raving lunatics.


I hope to find more .
 
that monty python on steroids thing sure sounds like fun. and ledhed, it seems thast you are soaking up all the bad luck! thanks mate! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" /> i'm doing great at the moment. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" />
 
Bad Luck ? Getting that Frigate like that made me REALLY earn it ! I call that great luck.....BAD luck would have not been making it onto the world map before being sunk ..

As far as all the crazy people in the game ...well I have an officer ..a women who I had approached..thinking it was a hooker or onre of the " I hate to brag about me charms " ladies..She's had some crazy things to say...before I hired her now shr's normal...I liked her better crazy.

Another female asked me if I wanted to see her lungs from the bottom up...WTF ? Ummm what the hell was she talking about ?

I may have to start writing some of this insane stuff down...it like all these easter eggs someone planted.... I was messing with it until a little before 5 am ...

So what's an Aop ? anyone know ?


I have until Saturday night to play this then , its hunting prep and scouting ..followed by opening day of deer season...gonna get me some meat for the pot .
 
eh, Aop = age of pirates. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" />
 
To ledhed: I know of a couple of weird dialogs in the game, including the one with the Disney reference, but a couple of the ones you post about I've never seen myself. I never knew PotC was THAT crazy! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/piratesing.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shock" border="0" alt="piratesing.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />

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eh, Aop = age of pirates. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" />
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I think ledhed might not have been entirely serious. Perhaps? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=173113:date=Nov 23 2006, 02:21 PM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Nov 23 2006, 02:21 PM) [snapback]173113[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
To ledhed: I know of a couple of weird dialogs in the game, including the one with the Disney reference, but a couple of the ones you post about I've never seen myself. I never knew PotC was THAT crazy! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/piratesing.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shock" border="0" alt="piratesing.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
ledhed has been spending too much time in the brothel.
 
<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> oh dear, he's been caught!

this is odd. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /> normally i always get jokes. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" /> maybe because i can't hear the tone at which it's said. the smileys help a lot in defying your meaning, you know.

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Peter help me out...I went to sink the ammo ship...but I ended up killing the fort and taking over the colony...then my game broke . I was rooted to the spot...with no commands except to talk and exchange and save...

It took a LONG time to win this fight and I got fubared...

What happened ?

I think the script wanted mr to sneak into town..but I got cuaght..so I killed the town...

Is that a punishment ? the game cant handle It ?


I thought this was a free roaming game ?


I have a letter of marque for England ..so why the freeze up ?

It kinda sucks . <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/no.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":no" border="0" alt="no.gif" />
 
I am going to confine my questions to this thread if you guys do not mind.

If I feel like playing the quest and getting the black pearl..etc.

Is the Mod to let the game continue active ?

What can I do in the game > I invaded and destroyed a french port but,,,it stayed french..I couldn't change it to the English.

I* f you can just give me an Idea what to expect...for instance it seems from faqs I have read I will lose my officers and some ships during the quest...I have ships berthed in different places...

I would just like an overview of what I can do in the game if I decide to ignore the main plot line .
 
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... I thought this was a free roaming game ?...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Yes and no.
It works best to get the main story (chain of several quests) over with first.

Don't take over any towns until you have to as part of the main quest.

Edit:
Berthing ships is OK.
Ship escort and trade missions as well as "Capture Pirate" missions are also OK.
Side quests are also OK but you might as well do the story quests to gain money and experience points.
 
I don't know about the rest of the questions, but I've ignored the main plot line without problems. I've even taken the French ships and sacked Oxbay before going back to the island from Redmond after speaking to Silehard about the Oxbay quest the first time. I went back to Redmond after sacking Oxbay, then when I returned to Oxbay it was back to normal, but without the French ships guarding it.

I've done pirate quests, trade mission quests, free trading, a few side quests not in the main plot line, all without problems. I've even sacked a few forts. As far as I know, if you sack a fort it does not change flags, but the town will be empty for a while. Accidentally destroying a fort in the middle of a quest might confuse the game a bit.

I've avoided berthing ships as I've had problems with earlier versions of the game. These may be fixed now.

Hope this helps.

Hook
 
Well I despise thee french and want to punish them...

So Its a sacking I will will go . Bot not Oxbay...they want me to frigging take some guys into the cave and I'll most likely get screwed and rooted to the spot.

I dont care I modded all the english ships to be better than the rest ..actually English and Portugese. I'd like to get a Constitution class ( American frigate ) But the Line ships are closer to that model ..than anything I would make up...Historicaly the French actually made some nice ships...BUT they didn't learn how to use them . The Brits copied them anyway .

I guess I'm stuck now that I accepted the dumbass mission.

But after I'm gonna just free boot. I wish the Yards would grow in selection though ...I want a english Man O war...Dont see how to get one .

Do the colonies grow ?

ALSO IS THERE A SMITH FOR ARMOR AND MUSKETS AND THE LIKE ?

Keybords goin freaky again....forgive me.
 
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Is the Mod to let the game continue active ?
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After you finish the main quest, you can continue play without any trouble. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

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What can I do in the game > I invaded and destroyed a french port but,,,it stayed french..I couldn't change it to the English.
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That functionality is not yet modded in.

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I* f you can just give me an Idea what to expect...for instance it seems from faqs I have read I will lose my officers and some ships during the quest...I have ships berthed in different places...
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You lose your ship and officers at only one point in the game when you are blown from your ship in a storm. You get your ship and officers back though. But before you do, you need to get a new ship to sail to Isla Muelle. Please note that you DO lose that new ship, so don't grow attached to it.

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Peter help me out...I went to sink the ammo ship...but I ended up killing the fort and taking over the colony...then my game broke . I was rooted to the spot...with no commands except to talk and exchange and save...
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I have no idea. Sounds weird. I don't really recommend attacking Oxbay fort; not sure what it'd do to the main quest. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

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ALSO IS THERE A SMITH FOR ARMOR AND MUSKETS AND THE LIKE ?
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No, there isn't. Armor and muskets don't have qualities, so you can't increase their quality either.
 
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