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Pirates seize 30 Russian T-72 Tanks

They should use planes next time. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> Air pirates are somewhat less common. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />
 
for a reason. you try boarding another plane in mid-air. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />
 
They do it in the movies! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />
 
I'm not quite sure what to make of these pirates ....first they shoot each other, now they threaten to blow themselves up. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><b>Somali Pirates Threaten to Blow Up Hijacked Ship if No Ransom Is Paid</b>

Friday, October 10, 2008


NAIROBI, Kenya — The pirates who hijacked an arms-laden Ukrainian tanker off the coast of Somalia threatened Friday to destroy the ship if no ransom is paid, a spokesman for the bandits said.

The MV Faina is surrounded by U.S. warships, and a Russian frigate is heading toward the scene, raising the stakes for a possible commando-style raid on the ship.

"We held a consultative meeting for more than three hours today and decided to blow up the ship and its cargo — us included — if the ship owners did not meet our ransom demand," Sugule Ali told The Associated Press when a reporter called the ship via satellite telephone.

"After three days, starting from tomorrow, the news of the ship will be closed. We know what to do next," he said.

The pirates had said Thursday they were willing to negotiate their ransom demand of $20 million, after nearly two weeks of insisting they would never lower the price.

Pirates have seized more than two dozen ships this year off the Horn of Africa, but the hijacking of the Faina has drawn the most international concern because of its dangerous cargo — 33 tanks and other heavy weapons.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Rest of the story here :
<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,435821,00.html" target="_blank">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,435821,00.html</a>
 
Sounds desperate but adds pressure to give them the money, 20 million is a lot less than the worth of the ship, its cargo and the lives of all on board.
 
They may wind up having to blow themselves up. When is that Russian frigate going to arrive?
 
The only ETA I could find for the Neutrashimy was Nov. 6'th. Those were her original mission orders before the MV Faina was captured. Negotiations have broken off again, so they may very well end up blowing themselves out of the water before the Russians even get there.

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><b>Talks to free Ukrainian arms ship collapse: pirate spokesman</b>

12 hours ago

NAIROBI (AFP) — Talks aimed at freeing a Ukrainian arms ship being held by Somali pirates collapsed on Friday, a spokesman for the pirates told AFP, deepening the two-week stand-off.

"The negotiations with the owner of the ship have totally collapsed. The owners are changing their minds from time to time, maybe because they are being advised by somebody that they can resolve the matter militarily," Sugule Ali told AFP from the ship.

"Given the situation, we are on alert and preparing ourselves for any eventuality, including military against us," he added.

"Therefore, we have given the ship's owner three days to respond positively to the negotiations, otherwise we will take some action that we will not reveal now," Ali added.

The pirates have been demanding 20 million dollars to release the MV Faina and its 21 crew, seized on September 25 as was sailing to the Kenyan port city of Mombasa, although sources close to the hijackers say the amount may have been reduced after several days of talks.

The exact details of the negotiations remain sketchy, but the pirates have insisted they must be paid before letting go the ship.

Kenya has shrugged off lingering speculation on the identity of the recipient of the cargo of 33 tanks, surface-to-air systems and other weapons pirates seized on a Ukrainian ship.

Many industry experts and intelligence sources have suggested the arms were bound for South Sudan, and not Kenya as Nairobi and Kiev have repeatedly insisted.

Nairobi however has refused to enter the negotiations, which are believed to involve the pirates and the ship's owners, and advocated muscle over diplomacy in a bid not to encourage long-term piracy.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Rest of the story here :
<a href="http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hyyf5SY6HhaHvmlq7BZEuOYjU_fQ" target="_blank">http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hyyf5S...mlq7BZEuOYjU_fQ</a>
 
Update on the Neutrashimy.

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><b>Russian naval task force arrives in Libyan capital</b>

Mogadishu Saturday, October 11 2008 SMC

MOSCOW, October 11 (RIA Novosti) - A naval task force from Russia's Northern Fleet, led by the nuclear-powered missile cruiser Pyotr Veliky, arrived Saturday in the Libyan capital, Tripoli, Capt. 1st Rank Igor Dygalo said.

After training at sea and some visits to other foreign ports, the Russian warships will head for the Caribbean to hold exercises in November with Venezuela's navy.


The Neustrashimy (Fearless) missile frigate from Russia's Baltic Fleet has also called at Tripoli to replenish supplies.

Dygalo, an aide to the Navy commander, earlier said the frigate would after leaving Tripoli continue its tour of duty via the Mediterranean to the Indian Ocean. "The Neutrashimy will go to Somalia where it will ensure the safety of Russian vessels passing through this area against pirate attacks," he said.

Last week, Somali Ambassador to Russia Mohamed Handule said his country's President Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed had authorized Russia's military to fight pirates off Somalia's coast and on land.

Pirates are increasingly active in the waters off Somalia, which has no effective government and no navy to police its coastline. The International Maritime Bureau said more than 30 incidents of piracy were registered in the region in 2007. More than 30 attacks have been committed so far this year off the coast of the East African nation.

Source: Rian<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Original story here :
<a href="http://www.somaliweyn.org/pages/news/Oct_08/11oct13.html" target="_blank">http://www.somaliweyn.org/pages/news/Oct_08/11oct13.html</a>
 
Morgan, I believe the task force with the missile cruiser is headed for Venezuela to make an old style Soviet Union show of force. Hugo Chavez is the new Castro, and Venezuela is the new Cuba. The exception being that Venezuela has oil and Russia wants to make damn sure it gets some of it. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/guns.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":2guns" border="0" alt="guns.gif" /> Holding military exercises in the Caribbean with the US's newest adversary is just their way of letting the world know they still matter.

Back to the Somali pirates, I missed this story last week.
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><b>
Somali pirates: Islamist insurgents demand weapons from hijacked ship</b>
Islamist insurgents have demanded to be given some of the weapons aboard a hijacked Ukrainian ship carrying 33 tanks but the pirates holding it have refused, a local official has said.


Last Updated: 8:20AM BST 06 Oct 2008

The Islamist gunmen from the al Shabaab group opposing Somalia's weak interim government have also received a five per cent cut of the $1.5 million paid out for a Spanish ship released several months ago.

About two weeks ago, heavily-armed pirates captured the MV Faina near Hobyo town in central Somalia and are demanding a $20 million ransom. Several US navy ships are watching it to ensure none of the weapons is unloaded.

"Al Shabaab wanted some weapons from the Ukrainian ship but the pirates rejected their demands," a local official said.

"Al Shabaab went away after they were rejected by the residents and the pirates. I am sure the group is not far from the area," he added.

Somalia pirates have seized more that 30 vessels off the coast of their anarchic country so far this year and received amounts between $18-30 million in ransoms, according to a report by British think-tank Chatham House.

Residents confirmed fears that ransom payments to pirates were being passed onto the Islamist movement and were fuelling the insurgency against President Abdullahi Yusuf's government.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Rest of the story here :
<a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/somalia/3140884/Somali-pirates-Islamist-insurgents-demand-weapons-from-hijacked-ship.html" target="_blank">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...acked-ship.html</a>
 
It doesn't look like these pirates are all to anxious to blow themselves up... can't say I blame em! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><b>Somali pirates may extend deadline on ship's fate</b>

By MALKHADIR M. MUHUMED – 16 hours ago

NAIROBI, Kenya (AP) — Somali pirates holding an arms-laden Ukrainian tanker off Somalia may extend the deadline on their threat to destroy the vessel, a spokesman said Monday.

In Kiev, angry relatives of the ship's crew members demanded that Ukraine's government stop delaying and just pay a multimillion-dollar ransom to the pirates.

The pirates have said they will destroy the MV Faina on Monday night or early Tuesday unless a ransom is paid. They may extend the deadline following requests from the ship's owner and other unidentified people, pirate spokesman Sugule Ali said.

The pirates were reviewing the deadline to see whether to, "modify it and if that is not possible, to execute it," Ali told The Associated Press in an interview by satellite telephone from the ship.

The crew members' relatives tried and failed to meet with Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko in Kiev over the ransom demand, which began at euro14.7 million ($20 million) and has since appeared to drop. They vowed not to leave the president's office.

"We will not leave until we meet with the president," said Yelena Priskha, 41, as she stood outside Yushchenko's office. "We will sleep on the stairs and will collect the money ourselves."

Her husband Olexandr is one of 20 crew on the MV Faina, which is carrying 33 battle tanks and other heavy weapons that the U.S. and other nations fear could fall into the hands of al-Qaida-linked Somali insurgents.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Rest of the story here :
<a href="http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5igGmlfz-K3g6EyC2vN8yK10vpCugD93PO4K80" target="_blank">http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5igGmlfz...0vpCugD93PO4K80</a>
 
Spaghetti and goat meat! Yummy! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbs1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":2up" border="0" alt="thumbs1.gif" /> Looks like they are not in the mood for a BBQ, and content just to wait it out!

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><b>Somalia: Pirates Rethink Blowing Up Ship</b>

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By JEFFREY GETTLEMAN
Published: October 15, 2008

The Somali pirates who hijacked a freighter full of weapons appeared Wednesday to be backing down from earlier threats to blow up the ship if they were not paid a ransom. A pirate speaking by satellite phone said Wednesday that an excessive number of mediators had been hampering the negotiations, but that the pirates did not plan to harm the crew. People on shore near the ship said that the pirates had recently hauled aboard enough spaghetti, rice and goat meat to last them several months. The freighter was hijacked Sept. 25 off Somalia’s coast, and the pirates have demanded millions of dollars before they set it free.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Original story here :
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/16/world/africa/16briefs-PIRATESRETHI_BRF.html?ref=world" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/16/world/af....html?ref=world</a>
 
Hmm, reasonable Pyrates these fellers be seemin' tew be! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />

Wonder what goat spaghetti or goat etoufee be like? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=284853:date=Oct 16 2008, 09:48 AM:name=Fred Bob)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fred Bob @ Oct 16 2008, 09:48 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=284853"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hmm, reasonable Pyrates these fellers be seemin' tew be! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />

Wonder what goat spaghetti or goat etoufee be like? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<img src="http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x172/oldsalt_bucket/emoticons/thbarfing.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" />


It seems that these pirates may have the stomach for goat and spaghetti but none for sticking to the plan to blow themselves up if the ransom wasn't paid. They should have thought this out a bit more before they embarked on this quest.
 
well, they didn't know what the cargo was until they got it, did they? i would have let the ship go without a crew i was them though. no witnesses, and they wouldn't have had that dodgy cargo. besides, they might still have gotten a ransom from the captured crew.
 
Not much news lately about this group, not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing. The good news is the crew seems to be in good health, considering the circumstances!

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><b>US Navy: Crew held by Somali pirates healthy</b>

16 hours ago

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Pirates who seized an arms-laden Ukrainian vessel off the Somali coast lined up the 20 captive crewmen on the ship's deck to show a nearby American naval patrol that they were in good health, a U.S. Navy spokesman said Monday.

Pirates hijacked the MV Faina Sept. 25 as it was carrying a cargo of tanks, rifles and ammunition bound for Sudan. The hijacking, one of around two dozen reported attacks on ships off Somalia this year, raised concern that the sensitive cargo could fall into the hands of al-Qaida linked insurgents in Somalia.

On Sunday, U.S. sailors on nearby vessels were able to see the 20 crewmen — 17 Ukrainians, two Russians and a Latvian — as they stood along the rail of the deck.

"They look healthy, they look like they're OK," said Lt. Nathan Christensen, deputy spokesman at the Middle East headquarters of the U.S. Navy's 5th Fleet in Bahrain. The ship's Russian captain died of a heart condition soon after the hijacking, officials in Moscow say.

A photograph taken by a U.S. sailor shows the men leaning forward against a deck railing as pirates armed with what appear to be rocket-propelled grenades and rifles keep watch a few steps away.

U.S. warships have been surrounding the vessel, and American sailors have maintained radio contact with the pirates and crew. The U.S. Navy is aiming to prevent the pirates from any attempt to offload the ship's military cargo.

The pirates have lowered an initial ransom demand from $20 million to $8 million and have withdrawn a threat to blow up the vessel if they don't receive the sum.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Original story and picture here :
<a href="http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gw4_QBNLFh-G8lec12MFPw1RzlAAD93UBF4G0" target="_blank">http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gw4_QBN...1RzlAAD93UBF4G0</a>
 
Mebbe dem skurvy pyrates oughta wise up an' make a run fer it! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />
 
<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />
 
I guess the goat meat and spaghetti didn't last near as long as they thought it would... If these are mere lowly fishermen as they claim, I wouldn't think food would be a problem. I guess it's tough to hold a fishing pole while your pointing a rocket launcher though!

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><b>Food and water running out on Faina</b>
Yesterday, 17:47 | Interfax-Ukraine

Food and water running out on Faina

The situation on the Faina, a ship seized by Somali pirates, is critical, as reserves of water, food and fuel, including diesel fuel for the ship's generators, will last less than 30 hours, Channel 5 reported on Oct.22, with reference to Verkhovna Rada Human Rights Commissioner Nina Karpachova.

Karpachova is currently in Kenya neighboring Somalia, and she spoke with the vessel's crew on Tuesday, according to the channel.

She said that the situation on the Faina remains tense, however, the sailors are standing firm and their health is satisfactory.

"The Ukrainian authorities are now waiting for an answer from representatives of the parties involved in this conflict. They have been asked to render quick assistance to the Faina, in particular, to deliver water, food and diesel fuel," reads a channel statement.

Meanwhile, the Segodnia newspaper reported on Wednesday that those working for it had managed to contact one of the pirates by satellite phone. The pirate said that his leader Mohammed is now out and that he would not hand over the phone to the crew, adding that the ship's crew might soon die.

"Everything is very bad with the crew, there is no water and food on the ship," the newspaper quoted the pirate as saying in very bad English.

Another conversation, reads the statement, lasted longer.

"Tell everybody that the crew will die. Possibly, tomorrow," the pirate said.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Original story here :
<a href="http://www.kyivpost.com/nation/30509" target="_blank">http://www.kyivpost.com/nation/30509</a>

Wouldn't delivering fuel, food and water prolong this almost month long mess? A few hungry pirate bellies might bring a swifter resolution to this, one way or the other. It seems no one has the will to try and end this by force. I find it pretty sad that the only people willing to use any kind of force to end these hostage situations are the French and the Somalians themselves! The families of the sailors being held scraped together the 8 Million dollar ransom, but it looks like red tape and government bureaucracies are keeping them from making that payment.

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><b> Relatives raise money for seized Ukrainian ship</b>
www.chinaview.cn 2008-10-19 18:58:56

By Daniel Ooko

NAIROBI, Oct. 19 (Xinhua) -- Relatives and families of the hijacked Ukrainian ship have raised money to pay Somali pirates who are demanding eight million U.S. dollars to release the crew who were seized last month, a regional maritime official said on Sunday.

Andrew Mwangura of the East African Seafarers' Assistance Program said the relatives and friends in Russian and Ukraine have raised eight million dollar ransom which is expected to be handed over to the pirates sometimes this week.

"Friends and relatives of the 17 Ukrainian crew members of the ill-fated MV Faina have collected money for ransom," Mwangura told Xinhua by telephone on Sunday.

"Most of the money had come from leading politicians including the former Ukraine Prime Minister Viktor Yamukovyeh," he said.

The development, however, contradicts the position taken by the Kenyan government which has maintained that it will not pay ransom, arguing that such move would encourage the continuation of such acts.

Last week, Foreign Affairs minister Moses Wetangula said he was confident that the pirates will not carry the threat to blow the ship. The minister also said the economies of countries along the Indian Ocean shoreline have been seriously affected by piracy.

He urged the international community to urgently assist in patrolling the unsafe waters near Somalia which has been without a proper government for decades.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Rest of the story here :
<a href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-10/19/content_10219211.htm" target="_blank">http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-10/...nt_10219211.htm</a>
 
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