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Problems with B14A9 Gameplay

Two Men stand into each other, this are from my crew - I told them to follow me on land, no officers!
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Another Problem : If I board an enemy ship and win the fight, after this i give the captain a chance to be my officer, the game crash to desktop an the enemy ship is a Tartane without nothing, everything count "0"

Another Problem: This men from Martinique, Saint Pierre sells absolut nothing, many other trader also.

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Next Problem on Saint Pierre: A never winning fight, the guard walk like Jesus or maybe sailboarding <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

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<!--quoteo(post=308033:date=Mar 21 2009, 06:06 AM:name=Schalkepirat)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Schalkepirat @ Mar 21 2009, 06:06 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=308033"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Two Men stand into each other, this are from my crew - I told them to follow me on land, no officers!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Looks like some locator problem: more than one character generated at the same locator. Do you have more information about where this occured and any other possible applicable information? There's a lot of factors that could make that happen. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=308033:date=Mar 21 2009, 06:06 AM:name=Schalkepirat)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Schalkepirat @ Mar 21 2009, 06:06 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=308033"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Another Problem : If I board an enemy ship and win the fight, after this i give the captain a chance to be my officer, the game crash to desktop an the enemy ship is a Tartane without nothing, everything count "0"<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->That is a known bug and tends to happen mainly if the character surrendered. But not always. I've been capturing ships quite a bit yesterday and some surrendered and none gave that problem.
We need to somehow figure out what triggers that to occur. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=308033:date=Mar 21 2009, 06:06 AM:name=Schalkepirat)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Schalkepirat @ Mar 21 2009, 06:06 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=308033"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Another Problem: This men from Martinique, Saint Pierre sells absolut nothing, many other trader also.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I think Hook is looking into that one.

<!--quoteo(post=308033:date=Mar 21 2009, 06:06 AM:name=Schalkepirat)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Schalkepirat @ Mar 21 2009, 06:06 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=308033"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Next Problem on Saint Pierre: A never winning fight, the guard walk like Jesus or maybe sailboarding <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Which location is that exactly and how did you pick the fight? I recall we had a problem like that before, but I thought we had fixed it. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/piratesing.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shock" border="0" alt="piratesing.gif" />
 
More features, more bugs. What a nice feature. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rofl" border="0" alt="24.gif" />
 
More bugs? Definitly not. Alpha 9 must be having less bugs than Alpha 8! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/piratesing.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shock" border="0" alt="piratesing.gif" />
 
Oh, then it's good.. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" /> but still a long way out of the toilet. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />
 
And I get another Problem:

In Antigua, I give the answer: I am Franco.....

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and thats the result:

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Enable your error log, compile log and system log, look <a href="http://forum.piratesahoy.net//index.php?s=&showtopic=9234&view=findpost&p=105875" target="_blank"><b>here</b></a> for how to do it, then to that again until it crash. After crashing open each file error.log, compile.log and system.log with notepad then copy the text and put it in your post here. I need to look at your logs to be able to see what's going wrong. After that we will see if we can fix the problem.

Cheers, <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=308047:date=Mar 21 2009, 11:40 AM:name=Estharos)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Estharos @ Mar 21 2009, 11:40 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=308047"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Enable your error log, compile log and system log, look <a href="http://forum.piratesahoy.net//index.php?s=&showtopic=9234&view=findpost&p=105875" target="_blank"><b>here</b></a> for how to do it, then to that again until it crash. After crashing open each file error.log, compile.log and system.log with notepad then copy the text and put it in your post here. I need to look at your logs to be able to see what's going wrong. After that we will see if we can fix the problem.

Cheers, <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I hope you mean this one:

System:
Scanning modules\
Loading modules...
Loaded 0
Reset...
Initializing CORE...
Creating atoms space: 128
done
initializing complete
Initializing DirectX 8
Techniques: 9 shaders compiled.
Techniques: 180 techniques compiled.
Techniques: compiled by 157786286 ticks.
Can't load texture resource\textures\.tx
Can't load texture resource\textures\.tx
Can't load texture resource\textures\.tx


Compile:
Gauging: StartGauging
Gauging: starting init
Gauging: interface
==> BuildSettings: Sets to default
==> BuildSettings: New settings applied
Gauging: load build settings
Gauging: periods
Gauging: nations
Gauging: preprocessor
Init encounters complete.
Gauging: enc
Gauging: cann
Gauging: ships
Gauging: islands
Init weathers complete. 0 weathers found.
Gauging: weather
Gauging: perks
InitModels: Total number of models: 465
Gauging: models
InitSounds (English): created 62 entries.
InitSounds (common): total sounds - 191
InitMusic: created 42 entries.
InitGreetings: created 257 entries.
InitTalks: created 20 entries.
Gauging: Aliases
Gauging: sound
Gauging: goods
Gauging: initgame start
Gauging: createlayers
Gauging: stores
Gauging: sound
Gauging: delete sea env
Gauging: wdmap
Gauging: islands
Number of locations: 682
Gauging: locations
Gauging: dialogs
Gauging: teleport
bool CreateParticleEntity()
Gauging: particles
Items initialization complete. Loaded 503 items.
Gauging: items
Gauging: char
Gauging: quests
Gauging: sea ai groups
Gauging: questmapenc
Gauging: landenc
Gauging: towns
==> BuildSettings: New settings applied
==> BuildSettings: New settings applied
Gauging: load options
InitSounds (English): created 62 entries.
InitSounds (common): total sounds - 191
InitMusic: created 42 entries.
InitGreetings: created 257 entries.
InitTalks: created 20 entries.
Gauging: Aliases
Gauging: infoshow
Gauging: initgame done
Init character names complete.
Done loading
bool CreateParticleEntity()
!!! Reload to 455
ItemLogic: On load location Antigua_Residence
ItemLogic: found 0 buttons
==> BuildSettings: New settings applied
==> BuildSettings: New settings applied
SETTING MUSIC: music_gorod
locator_name = reload2 lockedReloadLocator =
reload_cur_island_index = -1
reload_cur_location_index = 455
reload_island_index = -1
reload_location_index = 456
Start reload
PauseAllSounds
ReloadStartFade
ItemLogic: On unload location
ReloadEndFade
ItemLogic: On load location Antigua_mansion_study
ItemLogic: found 0 buttons
ItemLogic: Loaded model ammo\\blade5
SETTING MUSIC: music_gorod

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<!--quoteo(post=308046:date=Mar 21 2009, 11:30 AM:name=Schalkepirat)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Schalkepirat @ Mar 21 2009, 11:30 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=308046"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->And I get another Problem:
In Antigua, I give the answer: I am Franco.....
and thats the result:<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Problem confirmed. I'll see if I can find a fix.
 
It seems this is another one of those CTD-because-too-much-text problems.
I don't quite understand why those have suddenly popped up, because I know those texts did use to work! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/piratesing.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shock" border="0" alt="piratesing.gif" />
Anyway, I have made a "fix" for it by splitting the text into two cases instead. This seems to work.

Additionally, I found a whole bunch of other related issues that I have solved so that the whole escort quest now appears to be playable.
I'll upload some small fixes later. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />
 
this is a long shot, but maybe this is of the same kind as having too many sound files?
 
Not likely; it's got nothing to do with any alias or INI files. The problem occurs when the dialog sentences are too long.
 
And a new one: Graphic Problem

Puerto Rico, San Juan Shipyard:

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Confirmed and fixed. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/doff.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":doff" border="0" alt="doff.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=308036:date=Mar 21 2009, 04:30 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pieter Boelen @ Mar 21 2009, 04:30 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=308036"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=308033:date=Mar 21 2009, 06:06 AM:name=Schalkepirat)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Schalkepirat @ Mar 21 2009, 06:06 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=308033"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Another Problem : If I board an enemy ship and win the fight, after this i give the captain a chance to be my officer, the game crash to desktop an the enemy ship is a Tartane without nothing, everything count "0"<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->That is a known bug and tends to happen mainly if the character surrendered. But not always. I've been capturing ships quite a bit yesterday and some surrendered and none gave that problem.
We need to somehow figure out what triggers that to occur. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There are a few problems with surrendered ship still in the code. My advice is never to board a surrendered ship unless you're absolutely sure it surrendered to you, and there may be problems if a ship surrenders, you board another ship, then try to board the surrendered ship.

There are only a couple of "safe" paths through the enemy captain dialog. If he fights you on deck, there don't seem to be any problems. If not, you need to put him in the hold and deal with him later. If you want him as an officer, talk to him in the hold after the boarding. Also, don't do *anything* else in the hold after you've dealt with a prisoner; go back to the ship deck first. Even checking a chest in the hold can cause the game to crash. If you have two prisoners, deal with them one at a time.

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=308033:date=Mar 21 2009, 06:06 AM:name=Schalkepirat)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Schalkepirat @ Mar 21 2009, 06:06 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=308033"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Another Problem: This men from Martinique, Saint Pierre sells absolut nothing, many other trader also.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I think Hook is looking into that one.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Another bug I thought I fixed. Look here:

<a href="http://forum.piratesahoy.net//index.php?showtopic=12801&view=findpost&p=307122" target="_blank">http://forum.piratesahoy.net//index.php?sh...st&p=307122</a>

Hook
 
<a href="http://forum.piratesahoy.net//index.php?showtopic=12801&view=findpost&p=307122" target="_blank">http://forum.piratesahoy.net//index.php?sh...st&p=307122</a>

Hook
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The link don´t work <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
Oh, sorry. That link goes to the modder's forum. That link is mostly there for Pieter to check to see if the fix is in the newest version of the code, which I don't have yet.

Look in interface.c for this:

<!--c1--><div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><!--ec1-->void LaunchItemsTrade(ref chref)
{
    // LDH if we've gotten this far and the trader has no itemlist, we need to add it - 16Mar09 -->
    if (!CheckAttribute(chref, "itemtrade.itemlist"))
    {
        Trace("LaunchItemsTrade() gave new items to trader");
        GiveItemToTrader(chref);
        chref.quest.item_date = environment.date.day + " " environment.date.month;    // lastspeak date
    }
    // LDH <--
    if(procInterfacePrepare(INTERFACE_ITEMSTRADE))<!--c2--></div><!--ec2-->

... and in items_utilite.c for this:

<!--c1--><div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><!--ec1-->if (!CheckAttribute(ch, "itemtrade.itemlist")) givenew = true;    // LDH 16Mar09
//trace("Gauging: NEXTDAY_did checks");
if(givenew) // do we decide to fill the trader or just update.<!--c2--></div><!--ec2-->

... and make sure you have the lines marked with the LDH comments. This code comes with no guarantees at this point. I've tested it in limited cases, but I don't know if it might mess something else up.

Hook
 
That fix indeed WASN'T in the latest fix, but I'll make sure it's added next time. Beats me how I missed that. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=308230:date=Mar 22 2009, 05:51 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pieter Boelen @ Mar 22 2009, 05:51 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=308230"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->That fix indeed WASN'T in the latest fix, but I'll make sure it's added next time. Beats me how I missed that. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Perhaps we should put Pieter to the Gauntlet. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whippa.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":whipa" border="0" alt="whippa.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whippa.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":whipa" border="0" alt="whippa.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whippa.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":whipa" border="0" alt="whippa.gif" />

<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/razz.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":razz" border="0" alt="razz.gif" />

Cheers, <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
Yes, maybe we should! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whippa.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":whipa" border="0" alt="whippa.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whippa.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":whipa" border="0" alt="whippa.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whippa.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":whipa" border="0" alt="whippa.gif" />
 
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