As my brigantine is going to be finished, I want to start this topic to listen different opinions about possible replacements for Brig1, BrigSW and BrigQueen models. I've got several variants:
1. During my past vacation I've studied an Osprey Vanguard journal #70 dedicated to pirate ships of 1690-1730. It tells that one of the most common buccaneer vessel of 17th century was a brigantine. Although it says that it was a small 2-masted vessel of 150-400 tons with square rigged front mast and fore and aft rigged mainmast OR fore and aft rigged mainmast with a square topsail OR lugger type lower sail along with a square topsail OR complete square rigging on a mainmast along with a gaff-sail. The last variation was a brig certainly. It was just called a brigantine, along with a snow.
Coclusion: Brig was a common vessel of 17th century, along with a brigantine and a snow. There were no classification difference between them until early 18th century, when terms "brig" and "snow" appeared to name variations of brigantine. As I can't find any plans of 17th century brigantine besides Castell Friedrichsburg (on which I am working now) I suggest to take one of the plans of early 18th century brigs, redraw them a little to make them look like 17th century vessel (make a conventional one peace bowsprit, place a steering lever instead of steering wheel). As an example I can take a St. Peter 14-guns snow, adopt her a little to make her look like a 17th century brigantine and make a model then.
2. We certainly know that ketches were popular two-masted vessels of 17th century. They were similar to brigantines in sizes, armament and sailing characteristics, but there is a lack of plans of ones belonged to 17th century (except Nonsuch, which we already have in the game). But I have plans of several 18th century ketches, which I can adopt to look like 17th century vessels according to the plan of Nonsuch. Here they are:
- Hackham
- Cacafuego
- Salamander
- HMS Racehorse
So what do you guys think?
1. During my past vacation I've studied an Osprey Vanguard journal #70 dedicated to pirate ships of 1690-1730. It tells that one of the most common buccaneer vessel of 17th century was a brigantine. Although it says that it was a small 2-masted vessel of 150-400 tons with square rigged front mast and fore and aft rigged mainmast OR fore and aft rigged mainmast with a square topsail OR lugger type lower sail along with a square topsail OR complete square rigging on a mainmast along with a gaff-sail. The last variation was a brig certainly. It was just called a brigantine, along with a snow.
Coclusion: Brig was a common vessel of 17th century, along with a brigantine and a snow. There were no classification difference between them until early 18th century, when terms "brig" and "snow" appeared to name variations of brigantine. As I can't find any plans of 17th century brigantine besides Castell Friedrichsburg (on which I am working now) I suggest to take one of the plans of early 18th century brigs, redraw them a little to make them look like 17th century vessel (make a conventional one peace bowsprit, place a steering lever instead of steering wheel). As an example I can take a St. Peter 14-guns snow, adopt her a little to make her look like a 17th century brigantine and make a model then.
2. We certainly know that ketches were popular two-masted vessels of 17th century. They were similar to brigantines in sizes, armament and sailing characteristics, but there is a lack of plans of ones belonged to 17th century (except Nonsuch, which we already have in the game). But I have plans of several 18th century ketches, which I can adopt to look like 17th century vessels according to the plan of Nonsuch. Here they are:
- Hackham
- Cacafuego
- Salamander
- HMS Racehorse
So what do you guys think?
It is not so important for me. 4 strings in common.ini can be changed in a minute. The main question for me is what to do? Build a brig or snow to replace the stock brig? Or it is better to build a ketch and get rid of brig completely? I'm eager to do both, a brig/snow and a ketch. But I want to build first the one, which community like to see first 
I hope they help, good luck mate 
I assume you are still planning on completing the Cruizer? I like what you have so far, the flow of the hull is well done. I may make the 22-gun ship-sloop Volage of 1797 next, ( her plans are on my ftp) I started on her awhile back and she has a nice sleek hull form. Even so, I think the ship-rigged Cruizer/Snake class is a good Idea, it would add variety and hit two birds with one stone if I cant finish the Volage in a reasonable amount of time. About the Cruizer of 1732, do you think there is any chance of obtaining the POTBS model from their shipwright community or the builder? Or was she made by FLS? Because even If she wont work for the 1600s, she would be a great fit for the early 1700s up to maybe the American revoulution era.
I like your choices, plenty of frigates which is a good thing! but you also have enough other ship types to fill most of the remaining gaps for that era. 
