Build 14 Alpha 9.5 Problem - Unresponsive Actions

[Elrundir]

Okay guys, I dunno what to do. I've been trying since Friday to get this build to work but I keep running into the same problem. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> Aside from the fact that side-stepping seems to let me move through walls (which seems to have been the case since Build 13? I don't know if it's a bug or not), the game will occasionally stop letting me interact with objects (doors, chests, etc). Whether I press Spacebar or F3, it just doesn't work.

I've tried installing and re-installing the game and the builds every which way I can think of. I've tried following the instructions to the letter, I've tried modifying them a bit, I've tried installing the game to different locations... every time I get the same problem. The RunMe files <i>seem</i> to work okay, aside from the occasional "unable to find file" messages and what-not, though they go too fast for me to really tell. I do know that Build 13 seems to work fine, and the latest time I installed 14 A 9.5 it worked fine for the first part (I did the New Horizon storyline, and it was fine throughout the tutorial part, and then glitched up when I got back to my ship).

Anyway, here are the contents of my system and compile files. Maybe they'll tell you something I haven't.

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[Pieter Boelen]

When the game messes up with the interaction, I take it you CAN still move, right?
Note that if you open the Options menu while you've got a game loaded, things will get messed up.
That's a bug we have yet to fix. But if you set your settings prior to starting a new game and not change them ingame,
it shouldn't be a problem.

The sidestep issue is unintentional, but it's either that or NO sidestep. We have tried to solve it, but couldn't.

 

[Elrundir]

I'm not 100% sure whether I did or didn't open the options menu that time, but I'll tell you the events that led to the glitch happening, in as complete detail as I can remember:

1) After I finished with everything in town and the tutorial guy retired, I bought some cargo and went back to my ship.
2) I opened the player menu and changed my flag to Portuguese.
3) I went to sea, and was just checking things out when I clicked on the "Ship Berthing" button somewhere in the menu. This caused the game to crash.
4) When I reloaded (fortunately I had saved right on the ship's deck), I couldn't access the bell that takes you to sea anymore, or the door to the captain's cabin, etc. I could still talk to my crew, I just couldn't interact with doors/objects. I don't know if the fact that I had saved while in range of activating the bell (i.e. the "Sea" icon in the top left of the screen was visible when I saved) is worth noting, but I did.
5) After that I <i>did</i> check the Options menu to see if some glitch had rearranged the controls or something, but they hadn't been changed.
6) Reloading the save file, or quitting to desktop and then reloading, did not help.

Also, to answer your first question, yes, I can still move after the problem occurs. I'll try and load a new game to see if the problem occurs again, and I'll make very sure not to touch the Options menu this time so that I can rule that out if it happens again. Thanks for your help. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

 

[Pieter Boelen]

VERY strange. Anyway, please try again with Build 14 Alpha 9.5 Patch 2;
that has just been released and should at least solve some of the shipberthing issues.

 

[Elrundir]

Just a minor update on the situation:

I did try again, and I did run into the problem again, this time <i>definitely</i> without using the Options menu (unless changing some of the Advanced Options from the main menu, before choosing a file to load, also causes the bug).

Basically, I had saved on the deck of my ship, went to another island, got pickpocketed blind, and decided to turn down the rate of pickpocketings. So I closed the game, turned it back on, changed that option, reloaded, and couldn't interact with any doors on my ship. Fortunately, I had saved another file in Speightstown Port just before getting on the ship, and in that one, everything worked fine. So I'm thinking that maybe saving on the deck of your ship causes this problem as well? I don't know if anyone has tested it and knows that's not the case, though.

As for patch 2, I'll definitely try it and see if it changes anything. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

 

[Pieter Boelen]

Saving on the deck of your ship? That'd be interesting. I would in any case recommend to try not doing that.
You can't save at sea (well, we've got a mod that allows you to do that, but we haven't got that one properly compatible yet).
And being on your ship's deck usually constitutes being at sea too. In most cases, you CAN'T even save on your ship's deck.
But sometimes you can and I'm not sure if that works properly.

 

[Talisman]

I have been saving on the ships deck, captains cabins, & cargo holds without problems. It seem that as long as I have not set sail ( just boarded my ship but not yet selected sea ) then I can save o.k. The save is just named Captians cabin - Nevis or Ships deck - Nevis etc.

I assume the game still treats you as if you were on land until you actually select the sea, from the point on the deck or the fast travel menu.

Once I select the sea then it won't let me save until I am back on land again, which is what I would expect. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sailr.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="sailr.gif" />

I have been doing this in Build 13 and Build 14 Alpha 9

 

[Pieter Boelen]

Build 13? You didn't end up on your ship's deck in Build 13. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />
But indeed I also recall making some saves then and that worked. But it can't hurt to do it in port instead. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/no.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="no.gif" />