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TheNewBlackPearl

<!--quoteo(post=174975:date=Dec 7 2006, 08:47 PM:name=morgan terror)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(morgan terror @ Dec 7 2006, 08:47 PM) [snapback]174975[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
does that mean that i can board it at the end now? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
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Yes, you can.

<!--quoteo(post=175003:date=Dec 7 2006, 11:41 PM:name=Doober)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Doober @ Dec 7 2006, 11:41 PM) [snapback]175003[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
Oops, I guess I was wrong. Thank you Pieter for clearing that up. I would suggest that the new Black Pearl not be added until the collision detection is fixed.
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That might take forever. I hate having to keep her out. I personally would want to put her in as soon as we can figure out how to make her a hard opponent when fighting her, but a good but not uber-ship after capturing her. I personally don't care that much about the collision detection. Apart from that little thing, the new Black Pearl is better than the old one in every respect.

<!--quoteo(post=175063:date=Dec 8 2006, 02:26 PM:name=morgan terror)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(morgan terror @ Dec 8 2006, 02:26 PM) [snapback]175063[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
why not simply have an uber-ship as a reward for completing the main quest? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" /> otherwise it would be more like a downgrade from your manowar.
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The Black Pearl is not supposed to be the best overall ship in the game. She should be fast and manouvrable and relatively strong, but not to such an extent that all battles are easily won. Even if you do sail the Black Pearl, the game should remain pretty challenging. With the current Black Pearl at a ridicluous 100.000 hit points, the game isn't very challenging when using the Black Pearl. Basically the Black Pearl should be a good pirate ship that is good for capturing enemy vessels. The Black Pearl is not a navy ship intended for destroying forts. We've got Manowars for that. We shouldn't really have one ship in the game that is good for everything. No matter how good one particular ship is at one thing, there should always be other ships that are better at other things.
 
ok, if you put it like that, it seems fine to me. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> however, ship berthing seemingly doesn't work right yet in build 14 alpha, so those forts will have to wait, as i always work alone, and defeat anything on my way. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/duel_pa.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":ixi" border="0" alt="duel_pa.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sailr.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":sail" border="0" alt="sailr.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=175186:date=Dec 9 2006, 11:19 PM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Dec 9 2006, 11:19 PM) [snapback]175186[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
<!--quoteo(post=174975:date=Dec 7 2006, 08:47 PM:name=morgan terror)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(morgan terror @ Dec 7 2006, 08:47 PM) [snapback]174975[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
does that mean that i can board it at the end now? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
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Yes, you can.

<!--quoteo(post=175003:date=Dec 7 2006, 11:41 PM:name=Doober)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Doober @ Dec 7 2006, 11:41 PM) [snapback]175003[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
Oops, I guess I was wrong. Thank you Pieter for clearing that up. I would suggest that the new Black Pearl not be added until the collision detection is fixed.
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That might take forever. I hate having to keep her out. I personally would want to put her in as soon as we can figure out how to make her a hard opponent when fighting her, but a good but not uber-ship after capturing her. I personally don't care that much about the collision detection. Apart from that little thing, the new Black Pearl is better than the old one in every respect.

<!--quoteo(post=175063:date=Dec 8 2006, 02:26 PM:name=morgan terror)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(morgan terror @ Dec 8 2006, 02:26 PM) [snapback]175063[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
why not simply have an uber-ship as a reward for completing the main quest? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" /> otherwise it would be more like a downgrade from your manowar.
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The Black Pearl is not supposed to be the best overall ship in the game. She should be fast and manouvrable and relatively strong, but not to such an extent that all battles are easily won. Even if you do sail the Black Pearl, the game should remain pretty challenging. With the current Black Pearl at a ridicluous 100.000 hit points, the game isn't very challenging when using the Black Pearl. Basically the Black Pearl should be a good pirate ship that is good for capturing enemy vessels. The Black Pearl is not a navy ship intended for destroying forts. We've got Manowars for that. We shouldn't really have one ship in the game that is good for everything. No matter how good one particular ship is at one thing, there should always be other ships that are better at other things.
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<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hi.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":gday" border="0" alt="hi.gif" /> Yes, The org. Pearl is still there as I just captured her! (Build 13.0.2.3) <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />
 
wait, i'm confused. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" /> which pearl can i get at the end now in build 14? pieter says that i can board the new one, (but i might have been unclear there) and now you say it's the old one! (or at least in build 13) what's up?
 
In the current Build 14 Alpha you get to board/sink the old one. The new one is in the game, but not used anywhere, so you'll never even encounter her unless you cheat.
 
i'll just wait some more then. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />

oh, and i got it as my desktop as well. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" /> first i had the new colonies archipelago, but i can view it in-game now anyway.
 
You can easily change it though so that you do encounter the new Black Pearl rather than the old one, but the new one is much less strong and has much less HP, making her much easier to sink.
 
where? it would be very handy for me because my computer barely gives me enough time before it crashes again to defeat it. but i can of course board it now. and i still get it in a more or less fair way.
 
In PROGRAM\Characters\init\StoryCharacters.c find:
<!--c1--><div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><!--ec1-->    makeref(ch,Characters[n]);        //Barbossa.
    ch.old.name = "Barbossa";
    ch.old.lastname = "";
    ch.name = LanguageConvertString(tmpNameFileID,"Barbossa");
    ch.lastname = "";
    ch.id        = "Barbossa";
    ch.nation    = PIRATE;
    ch.model    = "pirat10";
    ch.sex = "man";
    GiveItem2Character(ch, BLADE_SABER);
    ch.equip.blade = BLADE_SABER;
    ch.location    = "";
    ch.location.group = "";
    ch.location.locator = "";
    ch.Dialog.Filename = " ";
    ch.rank     = 20;
    ch.reputation = "1";
    ch.experience = "0";
    ch.skill.Leadership = "10";
    ch.skill.Fencing = "10";
    ch.skill.Sailing = "10";
    ch.skill.Accuracy = "10";
    ch.skill.Cannons = "10";
    ch.skill.Grappling = "10";
    ch.skill.Repair = "10";
    ch.skill.Defence = "10";
    ch.skill.Commerce = "10";
    ch.skill.Sneak = "10";
    ch.money = QUEST_CHAR_MONEY; // PB
    ch.sinktenpercent = false;
    ch.Ship.Name = "Black Pearl";
    ch.perks.list.BasicDefense = true;
    ch.perks.list.AdvancedDefense = true;
    ch.perks.list.SwordplayProfessional = true;
    ch.perks.list.CriticalHit = true;
    ch.Ship.Type = "BlackPearl"; // PS - SHIP_BLACK_PEARL;
    ch.Ship.Stopped = true;
    ch.nosurrender=true;
    ch.boardingmodels = "Skeletons";
    // KNB ch.Ship.Cannons.Type = CANNON_TYPE_CANNON_LBS32;
    ch.FaceId = 31;
    ch.ShipSlot1.Type=SHIP_NOTUSED;
    ch.ShipSlot1.Name="NoName";
    ch.ShipSlot2.Type=SHIP_NOTUSED;
    ch.ShipSlot2.Name="NoName";
    ch.ShipSlot3.Type=SHIP_NOTUSED;
    ch.ShipSlot3.Name="NoName";
    ch.quest.killed.pirates = "0";
    LAi_SetLoginTime(ch, 0.0, 24.0);
    LAi_SetHP(ch, 80.0, 80.0);
    Lai_SetImmortal(ch, true);
    n = n + 1;<!--c2--></div><!--ec2-->And set <i>ch.Ship.Type = "theBlackPearl";</i>. A new game is required for this change to take effect. If you don't want to start a new game, put the following code in PROGRAM\console.c in the void ExecuteConsole() function, then press F12 ingame:<!--c1--><div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><!--ec1-->ch = CharacterFromID("Barbossa");
ch.Ship.Type = "theBlackPearl";<!--c2--></div><!--ec2-->
 
should i leave the bit in capitals behind that or remove it?

about that last bit: should it look like this?:

void ExecuteConsole(ch = CharacterFromID("Barbossa");
---------------------------ch.Ship.Type = "theBlackPearl";)
{

(leave the '----' out, it's for the positioning of the lines. i didn't put that into the code)

one more thing: will this have any effect when i install anything new that has something to do with this? like the mod with the adjusted new black pearl when it get's finished?
 
It should look like this:<!--c1--><div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><!--ec1-->void ExecuteConsole()
{
    ref pchar = GetMainCharacter();
    ref ch;
    int i;

    ch = CharacterFromID("Barbossa");
    ch.Ship.Type = "theBlackPearl";<!--c2--></div><!--ec2-->This won't mess up anything. It will just set Barbossa to use the new Black Pearl instead of the old one. This does make the final battle easier, because the new Black Pearl isn't an uber-ship like the old one. And the new Black Pearl doesn't have torn sails by default either.

In the PROGRAM\Characters\init\StoryCharacters.c file you can either remove or keep the text in the capitals. It is after a // mark, so it takes no effect in the game anyway. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/no.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":no" border="0" alt="no.gif" />
 
good, i'l go fix that now. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />

there should be an empty line below the code i inserted, right?
 
<!--quoteo(post=175323:date=Dec 10 2006, 11:24 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Dec 10 2006, 11:24 AM) [snapback]175323[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
It should look like this:<!--c1--><div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><!--ec1-->void ExecuteConsole()
{
    ref pchar = GetMainCharacter();
    ref ch;
    int i;

    ch = CharacterFromID("Barbossa");
    ch.Ship.Type = "theBlackPearl";<!--c2--></div><!--ec2-->This won't mess up anything. It will just set Barbossa to use the new Black Pearl instead of the old one. This does make the final battle easier, because the new Black Pearl isn't an uber-ship like the old one. And the new Black Pearl doesn't have torn sails by default either.

In the PROGRAM\Characters\init\StoryCharacters.c file you can either remove or keep the text in the capitals. It is after a // mark, so it takes no effect in the game anyway. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/no.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":no" border="0" alt="no.gif" />
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Wouldn't this line in quest_reactions.c still make the final battle difficult and also make the new black pearl "theBlackPearl" an uber ship?

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but wouldn't i have an uber ship then? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /> now excuse me, i have some ship hunting to do. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=175350:date=Dec 10 2006, 08:56 PM:name=morgan terror)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(morgan terror @ Dec 10 2006, 08:56 PM) [snapback]175350[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
there should be an empty line below the code i inserted, right?
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Doesn't matter. Empty lines don't influence the workings of the game. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/no.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":no" border="0" alt="no.gif" />

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Wouldn't this line in quest_reactions.c still make the final battle difficult and also make the new black pearl "theBlackPearl" an uber ship?

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I didn't know about that line. Yes, it would indeed make her an uber-ship after all. We should do something about that. The way I would prefer to do it is this:
1) The Black Pearl is an uber-ship with torn sails when you have to fight her
2) As soon as you capture her, she becomes a normal ship with patched sails instead
 
i can imagine how it would look when you assault a fort with it. after all those hits and not sinking the side of the ship would look like one big hole! you would also end up with a ship with lots of HP left but no cannons after a while.
 
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