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A&M Islands/NK_b13pre/ Vas/CCC etc bugs

Petros

Captain of "La Nao"
Storm Modder
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Pickpockets.

I find that Buildsettings does not turn them off with a 30 or even 60 setting.


#define NO_THEFT 100.0 seems to work.


100 reduced it much but not completely.
 
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Bugs
1. Gregor Samsa has no goods to sell.

2. Game locks if forced to talk to Quest character, e.g. encounter with Nigel Blythe and Voysey, while there is a town brawl going on!

Questions

1. Where in cabin is weapons locker?

Ans: Found it on wall with weapons. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" />

2. Stores don't sell bombs?


Suggestion

Change FBLR to FAPS
 
Here's more. Are these bugs or by design?

At QC ...

3. Repair your ship and loose all your crews money.

4. Get a room for the night or afternoon, and end up without your sword and most valuables gone, but with extra crew cash.

5. Sailed to IM from QC and crew was 80,000 richer, for doing nothing. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" />

Correction on this one, I lost all my good gear, and now have over 400 daggers, 150 cutlass, 63 cheap spyglasses and 39 clay jars.
The inventory is major messed up.
 
<!--QuoteBegin-Petros+Apr 28 2005, 07:09 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Petros @ Apr 28 2005, 07:09 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->5. Sailed to IM from QC and crew was 80,000 richer, for doing nothing. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" />

Correction on this one, I lost all my good gear, and now have over 400 daggers, 150 cutlass, 63 cheap spyglasses and 39 clay jars.
The inventory is majorly messed up.
<div align="right">[snapback]102789[/snapback]</div><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->You mean, you lost your good stuff and got money for it, as if you sold it to a merchant? odd. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" /> Didn't you maybe get the gold from the land you have? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
Started a new game, in the tutorial I went to the store and it was possible to buy almost everything well at least in the pistol genre. What´s this, a bug a change? Not fun so early in the game the way I see it.
 
You don't have too much money when you start off, I wouldn't think... I think this is a bug, actually. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
I think money is ok and anyway it's tweakable...

But, I've been boarding a anti-smuggling coastguard and I found myself alone in front of all the conceicao soldiers... I think it's a bug because my crew was full...
 
First: Mucho Thankos for collecting these all together, folks. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Well, it's clear there's something funny in ItemTradeVille.
It surely sounds like somehow the pchar gets set to itemtrader status. Can one of you who's had this problem zip & email me a save, so I can check pchar attributes?

Stores don't sell bombs if USE_REAL_CANNONS is on (they are now known, if in that mod, as Heated Shot, and are available only to forts).
Good point re: FAPS (FPSA?).

Re: 3. Hmm. Can you send me a save from before that? Or describe it a bit more?


Regarding the traders disregarding minlevel. Since traders and items have quality ratings I disabled minlevel, but obviously we have to have something like that for game balance...

Will be thinking straighter tomorrow, should be able to respond better then.
Again, thanks for bringing these up! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
<!--QuoteBegin-NathanKell+Apr 30 2005, 01:34 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(NathanKell @ Apr 30 2005, 01:34 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->First: Mucho Thankos for collecting these all together, folks. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Well, it's clear there's something funny in ItemTradeVille.
It surely sounds like somehow the pchar gets set to itemtrader status. Can one of you who's had this problem zip & email me a save, so I can check pchar attributes?<div align="right">[snapback]103099[/snapback]</div><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Will do!
Where do I send it?
 
<!--QuoteBegin-NathanKell+Apr 30 2005, 01:34 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(NathanKell @ Apr 30 2005, 01:34 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Re: 3. Hmm. Can you send me a save from before that? Or describe it a bit more?
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What happens is this:

You go to the shipyard to repair your ship.
Taking note of the crews status and money, everything is fine.
You have way more than what the repairs will cost.

You ask to repair and get it back days later.

Everything else is OK except now the crew has Zero money!

I worked around this once by going in with an officer and giving him all the crew money minus what the repairs would cost.

After repairs, I had zero, but my officer still had the rest.
 
Ah! I bet that's related to itemtrade too.
email is nathankell@piratesahoy.net
Thanks! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

For now I'll add a quick override to not allow setting of IT if the player is the character; but I'm still <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wacko:" border="0" alt="wacko.gif" /> as to how it got set to the pchar in the first place...
 
BTW, I think the pick pocket problem might have come from a more recent Build Mod.

I did not have that problem with the build mod created in Feb. (13 MB)

I installed the A&M Islands/NK_b13pre/ and had all these problems.

Growing impatient, I dumpped it and on a fresh Build 12.1 installed the newer Build Mod (25 MB) and found the same pick pocket problem.
 
Ya, sorry Petros. Been kinda flurried the last few days... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blush.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":eek:ops" border="0" alt="blush.gif" />
 
Fixed the pchar itemtrading. Still don't know _why_ it's happening, but at least I can stop it when it does.
(I had evidently put that fix in earlier but forgot about it--I went to add it today and found I already had. Such is life. :] )
 
<!--QuoteBegin-NathanKell+May 4 2005, 10:39 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(NathanKell @ May 4 2005, 10:39 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Fixed the pchar itemtrading. Still don't know _why_ it's happening, but at least I can stop it when it does.
(I had evidently put that fix in earlier but forgot about it--I went to add it today and found I already had. Such is life. :] )
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So, should I reinstall the "A&M Islands/NK_b13pre_050422/et. al." I have?

How do I get the fix?
 
I suppose you'll have to wait until Nathan Kell puts a new version on the FTP.
 
Which I would have done last night, had my brain been working. Sorry.

Problem is fleet still isn't anywhere near as solid as it needs to be for any but masochists to use it. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />
I'll merge this and the other bugfixes back into the pre-fleet base and upload that as well.
 
*Starts a party*
Can't wait to check it out tomorrow!!!! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />
 
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