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A pinnacle for todays breed of pirate games. re Pirates foru

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Hengist

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In view of the "Can it top POTC?" thread, why does the Pirates forum say "A pinnacle for todays breed of pirate games" when in the "Can it top POTC? thread" many say it's not the pinnacle (well not in those exact words it doesn't say that, more implied that it isn't the pinnacle).

Just curious as I thought that saying, "One of the original Pirate games" would be a more appropriate subtitle.
(I really should find something interesting to go and do at work this morning).
 
I bet if you took a poll of all the beta testers, they would agree that it's the pinnacle of Pirate games today. Just a hunch. I would say it is <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
So Toast are you saying the original pirates is better than the new one (beta tested) ...if the original is the pinnacle, you can't get any higher than the pinnacle? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
Unless you build on top of the pinnacle. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" />
 
Lol ddmagnan <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
I was a Pirates! betatester, and the following is JMO:

1.) Pirates! (the new one) is a heckuva lotta fun to play.

2.) It's just as much a `time-stealer` as the original. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />

3.) "Comic book graphics" don't matter - I mean, think about it, if you are able, you're probably STILL playing the original Pirates! from time to time.

4.) PotC is a very different game from Pirates! PotC is Akella's twist on the Pirate game genre, but Sid Meier got there first with a game that has transcended generations and years and is STILL pointed to as "THE" pirate game by the people who played it originally and are still playing it today.

5.) I am sure that whenever Akella comes out with what they REALLY meant to release as "Sea Dogs II" it will be eminently more `play-able` than what they had to kick out the door to please Disney. BUT it will still NOT be SMP!(2). Different game, different style.

6.) If it weren't for the mods, I would NOT still be playing PotC today. The mods make it a heckuva lot more interesting and `play-able`.

<b>...and finally...</b>

7.) Pirates! (the new one) will not need mods for me to continue playing it for a long time to come. <b>Even in the Betatest it was clearly evident that this game has so much built into it to make it a different experience EVERY time you play it, that it will not be a game that bores easily.</b>

That last part is what makes this game great. JMO. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
So the original is not the pinnacle of pirates games and therefore the forum subtitle is incorrect <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Perhaps if it had said 'the benchmark' for pirate games it would make more sense?

Wow it's now 18:45 and I'm now teaching an evening class, and yes the students are doing an exercise and I'm still bored at work (hence this post).
Roll on 20:30 when it's class dismissed and I can then go and grab a beer <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
Well, I concur with everything Catalina said.

I also think that you can raise the pinnacle. For instance, the `P-51` Mustang was the "pinnacle" of fighter design during it's time. But at some point, the `F-15` raised the standard and became the new pinnacle.

Now, I think the new Pirates game will outsell the original (more potential players with computers in more households now). I think it will get rave reviews (like the first). I think it's a much deeper game and leaves less to the imagination than the original. And, I DO think it will become the pinnacle of "pirate" themed games. But, I don't think it will make the impact on the gaming community that the original one did, simply because our expectations are so much higher now and when it came out in 1987, it did things that only one other game had attempted to do (Dan Bunten's Seven Cities of Gold), making it the "Father of the Genre" - and while you can raise the pinnacle to new heights, you can't have more than one "Father of the Genre"

All IMHO of course.
 
Yes I agree you can raise the pinnacle so that it becomes the new pinnacle, but you can only ever have one pinnacle.

Is anyone else, besides me, thinking that this thread is a complete waste of time and it was started by someone who was bored at work with nothing better to do? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

Haha, Hengist, you may have to look for another job, as you will become addicted to PA! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" />
 
It's to late fer all O' us mate <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> ,jest me opinion folks but I've been play'n POTC since it hit de shelves an am still play'n it cause O de mods as Cat said,not 'ave'n played de original pirates,but am look'n forward t play'n Sid's new masterpiece,between de two games me thinks I'll never be bored it all comes down te personal tastes.<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
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