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Any easy way to obtain Build11?

Thank you for explanation. The problem is that I have a very fast connection here at work, but even though it takes VERY long time to download so many small files. I am able to download one big file quite fast (if my colleagues can go smoking every half an hour, I can download something from inet <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> That is why I asked for a one big download. Maybe I can try to start the install/download at the morning and when I go home, it will be done.
About the build 11. After the B11update.zip is (manually) decompressed replacing the old files, I can run the game and I get to the main menu. But when I click on NEW GAME, the game starts to load, but after a while I am back in Windows desktop. My graphics card is A GeForce FX5900XT, drivers 61.77
 
Cat, as usual, has done an exceptional job explaining the way Build 12 works. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/onya.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="onya.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" /> I'll drill down a bit further to help you understand what's at play here.

The Build 12 executable is an installation engine only. It allows the user to select only the options they wish to install, and the location they wish to install the files to. Additionally, the user can choose to run only the update engine. I'll cover the function of the update engine a bit later.

Once the user has chosen the desired options and initiated the install, the Build engine connects to the server and begins the download and installation process.

The Build engine compares the files on the source code server with the files in the target location, and downloads only the files that are required. If the install is interrupted for any reason, the installer can be restarted, and the install process will automatically resume from the point it left off. Additionally, the source repository is optimized for 56k modem users for the most efficient possible transfers, regardless of connection speed.

Keep in mind that this is not a brute force, blind overwriting of files. Files are being compared, components are being downloaded and decompressed, old versions are being archived for uninstall support, etc.

The update engine functions in much the same way. Files in the update repository are compared against the user's installation, and only the required files are downloaded. The user is assured of getting only the latest updates without having to download a cumulative and `ever-growing` package.

This mechanism benefits the user in the following ways:
- The user is not forced to download the entire 78 megabyte package.
- If the download is interrupted, it can be resumed with no loss of progress.
- The Build can be downloaded to an empty folder and copied over an existing install of PotC if desired, either on the same machine or a different one.
- If the user wishes to download additional options at a later time, it is not necessary to download the full Build all over again.

Build 12 <b>is</b> a full upgrade to the stock version of PotC. Build 11 is not required <i>unless</i> the user is installing over a Euro version of PotC. This is a known problem and is being addressed as time permits.

I hope this clarifies matters for you. If you have any additional questions, please feel free to ask and I'll do what I can to assist.
<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
For anyone interested in having a really easy Build 12 installation (even on my PotC version, which I believe to be the European UbiSoft version, which usually causes trouble):
I made a "Build 12 +.exe" file containing Build 11, Build 12, the updates & extra textures and my PotC Mods.zip file. Now if I need to make a proper installation of PotC, I can just install PotC from disc, extract my selfextracting exe on top, run RunMe.bat and it's done. Unfortunately, this file is 90MB, so too big for me to upload. But if anyone is interested, maybe someone else can make the same file (`sort-of`) and upload it somewhere for everyone. Just thought I'd let you know... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
Hey Pieter, that's a great idea! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" /> Unfortunately I don't have enough webspace to host it, either <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />
 
<!--`QuoteBegin-Inez` Dias+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Inez Dias)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Unfortunately I don't have enough webspace to host it, either  :([/quote]

Precisely why things were architected the way they were. Minimal constraints on hosting space, and maximum efficiency for file transfers. Please, feel free to try and engineer around Ol' Jack's machinations. My methodologies address the population at large, not just a select few with broadband. I do not understand the desire to circumvent the Build 12 installer and update technologies. A simpler and more inclusive technology simply does not exist.
 
Please don't be offended Mad Jack. That was not my intention in the slightest. I just thought it might be useful for those who want to use Build 12 on their troublesome Euro version without installng Build 11 first and for those not wanting to redownload again. I added your installation files to my own zip file, so they can still be used for updating. You're not angry with me, are you? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":eek:" border="0" alt="ohmy.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Please don't be offended Mad Jack.  <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Same goes for me. Wish I could make an installer like that.
 
Sorry, mates. Just touchy and tired. I apologize for snapping at everyone. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/oops3.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":eek:ops2" border="0" alt="oops3.gif" />

I'll have another look at the Euro mechanism and see what else might have been overlooked, as time permits. I was hoping to hear from Nathan before now - it would seem that real life is exherting extraordinary demands on everyone.

Again, sorry for the outburst.
 
After I have just experienced how difficult it is to make a very small mod work for everyone I can only admire how you made an installer for the whole huge build. And for me it has worked fine, thanks a lot again.
One question and one proposal:
Does the Installer replace all files that are DIFFERENT or only those that are OLDER? Reason why I ask: I have by now a lot of mods on top of Build12. If I run the Installer again, will those mods be overwritten? Would be no problem, I'd just like to know.

FAIK installing B12 over B11 works for Euro users. So it might be an easy solution if your installer had a Eurooption that installs first the key files (engine etc.) of B11 and then B12 on top of that.
Not very professional, I admit, but if it works...
 
Pieter, I can arrange space for you <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Now there are a few people asking for the all in one download.

If your up for it ill pm you ftp details and if you upload i can take care of it from there
 
<b>Mad_Jack: </b> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/diomed.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":dio" border="0" alt="diomed.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

Thanks, Keith!!! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/onya.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="onya.gif" />
 
<!--`QuoteBegin-Keith`+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Keith)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Pieter, I can arrange space for you <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Now there are a few people asking for the all in one download.

If your up for it ill pm you ftp details and if you upload i can take care of it from there[/quote]I now made a selfextracting exe (78,3MB) including Build 11, Build 12, the latest update and the extra textures. It's no pretty installer and you have to manually run RunMe.bat in the case of a Euro version, but it's the best I can do. After all: I'm not Mad Jack. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />
Anyway: I'd be happy to put this file up for download somewhere. It'll take some time uploading (my connection isn't the fastest), but I can at least try.
 
Great. Simply great. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbs1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":2up" border="0" alt="thumbs1.gif" /> Hopefully you will find some hosting soon. I can not wait to download it.
 
That's wonderful, Pieter! Thank you again... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
Or, we could provide the full download in t*rrent <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> form to save space for new mods to come... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
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