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Help with 3d Modelling

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Dom1172

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Can anyone out there point me in the direction of a good idiots guide to 3d modelling.
I just downloaded the accutrans modelling program Capt Hawk suggested in his new 64 thread.
Thought I might have a go at redoing the back of the Manowar to get rid of the open galleries. I converted the .gm to .wrl and got it to open up in the program, but that's as far as I can get <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" />

Please help!!!
 
I tried that program for a bit, but I can't figure out how it works. If only I had a working version of 3D Studio MAX... I know how that works; I used it to model several non-PotC boats... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

I can help you with the way 3D modeling works in general, but I can't help you with how that particular program helps. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />
 
Well I can't work that one out at all although it is useful for converting files.
I got hold of Maya and now I'm more confused than ever.
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I think I'd better read the instructions!!!
 
Ahoy there. I'm also a doofus who has no idea how to work with any 3d modelling program. I find myself faced with a predicament I can't figure out. Such is my lack of expertise. I want to find out if I can modify the Manowar design using maya. I also uploaded several of the modding tools on piratesahoy but I haven't been able to figure out how to work them. If it even is possible to modify a ship design, how do I go about doing it?
 
It IS possible; How to do it depends on the program. You'll have to learn how to program works for a bit. Start small: try to make a box. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" />
 
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Ahoy there. I'm also a doofus who has no idea how to work with any 3d modelling program. I find myself faced with a predicament I can't figure out. Such is my lack of expertise. I want to find out if I can modify the Manowar design using maya. I also uploaded several of the modding tools on piratesahoy but I haven't been able to figure out how to work them. If it even is possible to modify a ship design, how do I go about doing it?
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<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hi.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":gday" border="0" alt="hi.gif" /> Vanderdecken,

That's what I'm trying to do at the moment, I want to get rid of the oopen galleries at the stern and make it more 'Victory' like.
I've found that you need a couple of programs to get the .gm file converted to a format that Maya can read.
I use the Inez Dias 'Tool' to convert the .gm to vrml then load it into accutrans and save as a .ma.
In the tutorials wikki, there is a maya plugin from akella which I think will allow you to convert .gm to a maya format and back again. I think it only works with Maya4.5 though (I've got v.7).

Anyway, I managed to get the model into Maya, but I haven't worked out how to edit it yet, so if you know how, please let me know <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />

You can find the Wikki link here: <a href="http://robotsdontbleed.com/wacko/wakka.php?wakka=ModdingTools&v=10ku" target="_blank">http://robotsdontbleed.com/wacko/wakka.php...ingTools&v=10ku</a>

You can find the Accutrans link here: <a href="http://www.micromouse.ca/" target="_blank">http://www.micromouse.ca/</a>

You can find the Inez Dias tool here: <a href="http://home.arcor.de/swigard/Downloads/TOOL/" target="_blank">http://home.arcor.de/swigard/Downloads/TOOL/</a>
 
I've used Wings 3D to model some spaceships for Oolite (Elite remake) and I must say that I learned to use it (basic stuff) in just a few hours - so it must be easy!

And I'm a complete newbie as well, so it is not a matter of years of practice with other programs.

And, indeed, fumbling around with some ready models is a great way to start. I tried to modify an existing ship at first, but as I tried and tried, I suddenly realised that it would be much simpler to start from the scratch (had learned enough to do that instead).
 
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what version of maya do you have and did it come with tutorials?
i have maya 4.5 i buy on ebay 4 month ago and started try to learn with tutorials that came with it to learn <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bookish.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":mm" border="0" alt="bookish.gif" /> since that time i spend hundreds of hours learning and creating to make bermuda sloops <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/type_1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":nk" border="0" alt="type_1.gif" />

have a good modding to you! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
Maybe I'm failing at my attempts because I'm testing a trial version of Maya 7.0. If thats my mistake than its hilarious. Although it did come with tutorials <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" />
 
This link has a fairly straight forward Maya tutorial

<a href="http://www.ckk.chalmers.se/tutorials/maya/Pages/tutorialLevel1.html" target="_blank">http://www.ckk.chalmers.se/tutorials/maya/...rialLevel1.html</a>

I'll be seeing if some of it can be applied to ship editing later.
 
Well, as far as I know, the only version of Maya capable of exporting into .gm successfully is the non-PLE 4.5. Or has that changed? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
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Well, as far as I know, the only version of Maya capable of exporting into .gm successfully is the non-PLE 4.5. Or has that changed? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
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I'm not sure yet!

I was planning to import my completed model into accutrans which will save it as a vrml and then use the Inez Diaz tool to convert it to .gm

It seems a bit long winded, but I think it will work. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" />
 
where is Inzane when you need him? he showed up, gave us his ship, offered some help to Chocoate bill, which wasn't replied to, then left.
 
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