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Islands..

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johannes scherjon

Sailor
I was lookin around, and I saw that those islands have much cliffs and stuff , but those arn't carribean islands..
so I thought why not to make completely new islands, I heard that those forts are located by locators. so we have to replace locators for that then..
Anyone Interested??

Johannes Scherjon
 
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YES.....new Islands.....lead me on...where?
 
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I was lookin around, and I saw that those islands have much cliffs and stuff , but those arn't carribean islands..
so I thought why not to make completely new islands, I heard that those forts are located by locators. so we have to replace locators for that then..
Anyone Interested??

Johannes Scherjon
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OOHH! Mee! ..er, yah. Do you plan to make these completely new things, or from what scratch there already is to work with? Not to brag, but my strongest point is art art art and will thus be glad to draw something as a guide for a new island... I can't do all the 3D rendering and other technical bits, but I can give my ideas.

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Marcelo is very good in making models, onley the coallition..
then we need some GOOD textures and some nice good palm trees on it
also we need to change the water colour...
first we to figure out how to make the coallition.
but this idea is in fact very possible..
 
Also would be nice to actually see something new as opposed to the current "recycled over and over again" scenery. @ johannes sherjon: Are there any specific (real) islands you'd like to see?
 
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Also would be nice to actually see something new as opposed to the current "recycled over and over again" scenery. @ johannes sherjon: Are there any specific (real) islands you'd like to see?
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they may be fiction but I like some carribean islands WITHOUT CLIFS
like that pic I added..
 
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That would be VERY VERY KEWL!!!........I love it.......hopefully bigger.....there was a game online called The secret of the BLack Cat, I played it, and it had Islands very much like this......can you imagine sailing between Redmond and Isle Meurte, and all of a sudden seeing that on the sea scape........you could stop for Water, sight seeing, native women..........or even R & R for the crew......O r even maroon one of your Officers, with one gun, one shot, and one powder..........Nah shoot him first so he dont come after you later!!!
 
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That would be VERY VERY KEWL!!!........I love it.......hopefully bigger.....there was a game online called The secret of the BLack Cat, I played it, and it had Islands very much like this......can you imagine sailing between Redmond and Isle Meurte, and all of a sudden seeing that on the sea scape........you could stop for Water, sight seeing, native women..........or even R & R for the crew......O r even maroon one of your Officers, with one gun, one shot, and one powder..........Nah shoot him first so he dont come after you later!!!
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And that kinda makes me think of the island in PotC where Jack Sparrow and Elizabeth get marooned. This would add more realisim and pirate tradition to the game.. but then again, it would be doubly cool if you could make the appropriate animation and watch the crewmenber kill himself. @ Johannes Scherjon: What happens if you also add caves into the coastal cliffs?
 
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@ Johannes Scherjon: What happens if you also add caves into the coastal cliffs?
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you make a cave, add a locator then its accesable I think,
I thought we use the same coll. file for our new islands, so the same big only lower and much better..
we need to find somebody who can make col files!!!
then its a piece of cake..
 
"A moor point on the side of a cliff, that takes you to a new model of your shore boat inside a dark and eary cave. You standing there in front of a opening leading into a catacombs area filled with bad guys."

Sounds fun!
 
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D'you plan to have buildings on these islands?
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Sure, I hope it can replace Douwezen, Redmond,Isla Muelle,Falaise De Fleur, Quaterbreas Costillas.. etc etc.
also I want to make 'random' sea islands, like you press space bar on the map mode you see only sea,
but I want a random change you'll see a small isle...then there's a option to seek throug the isle you could find gold, or even get officirs for your ship (who are left behind,, of munity or somethin)

but first we need to replace the standard islands.

Johannes Scherjon <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />
 
"replace" the standard islands ? Why on earth for ? Whats wrong with them ?

They are perfectly fine the way they are. Maybe replace the new islands that look like the standard islands... but leave the standard islands alone <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />


Random sea island chance:

How often do you simply press spacebar to go into blank sea? Why would you? If you add a random condition that you may find an island, then it would make people want to jump in and out in and out of sea and map, just to get a random island, because all it does it by chance show one.

That is highly unrealistic.

Possibly another approach could be that while you are sailing on worldmap, an 'island icon' pops up for a very TEENY spot on the map (maybe add the LAND HO! sound). These spots are randomly generated, and once one is 'entered', it is permanetly added a little flag point in the map (so you can return to it, since it is now charted).

There would be a max number of these for any given game of course... cause honestly, there is only a certain number of deserted islands in the caribbean <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

Exploring the little island, could then result in loot. Either by mooring to it and walk explore, or just a 'sail up to it, and it searches the island automatically when you try to moor' sort of action.

Likewise, those "sea battles" you come across... those could be a good spot to randomly place a small island (very small chance, but a chance nontheless). Since it would be something you jump into for a reason... and the loot on the island could be far greater, thus the battle... and you could only loot the island when all enemy ships are out of the area (just like how the moor point works now).

Your idea has serious potential for a really cool addition! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />
 
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"replace" the standard islands ? Why on earth for ? Whats wrong with them ?

They are perfectly fine the way they are. Maybe replace the new islands that look like the standard islands... but leave the standard islands alone <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />
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Why replace any islands at all? YOu really can't have TOO many!! :0 <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
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"replace" the standard islands ? Why on earth for ? Whats wrong with them ?

They are perfectly fine the way they are. Maybe replace the new islands that look like the standard islands... but leave the standard islands alone <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />
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Why replace any islands at all? YOu really can't have TOO many!! :0 <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
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DID you ever see in the carribean islands with such high cliffs??
I dont anyway <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />
it should give a more 'carribean' feeling.. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />
 
High cliffs is an esthetic thing. It makes the islands more interesting. Flat sandy islands just looks so ... so ... boring <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />
 
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DID you ever see in the carribean islands with such high cliffs??
I dont anyway <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />
it should give a more 'carribean' feeling.. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />
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I just went looking for pictures of the actual islands used in the game. The SLiB mod has a map with their real names. You know what I found?

Cliffs. Lots of cliffs. And a few beaches.

The islands in the game look pretty accurate according to the pictures I saw.

Hook
 
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Cliffs. Lots of cliffs. And a few beaches.
The islands in the game look pretty accurate according to the pictures I saw.
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I just did a search for photos... yeah, a lot of more adventuring photos show some of the insane landscapes (huge mountains, steep cliffs, sheer rock faces). But a lot of touristy photos are just sandy beaches. People only see "Travel Photos" of some big sandy beach, or think about the "stranded on an island" images cartoonists use of a pile of sand and one palm tree... and suddenly everyone thinks the caribbean is a big sand dune with water pockets.

Even the MOVIE had islands that had huge cliffs... Elizebeth fell off one, recall that? Recall the cave entrance area where they got ambushed? Goodness massive cliffs there too.

If I see a mod swapping out the current islands for flat ones, I'll rip them out and put the originals back in.
 
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