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locations cloning

Jack Rackham

Jack Rackham

ex train dispatcher
Quest Writer
Storm Modder
Has anyone succeded in reusing the lighthouse inside, and in that case how?
I thought I did once but deleted it. Maybe I `m wrong.

What happened to the subject Devil`s Island?
 
No Kieron it didn´t. And the same with Muelle passage. Seems to me the game thinks of those two as shores. Shores I´ve tried but no success.
 
Hmm.
Have you tried copying the foam from the resourcefoam folder?
Or whatever it's called, it's for locations that have sea.
 
ah sorry jack i thought you meant the inside of the lighthouse. yes screwface and ccc both said they couldn't find how to clone beach areas. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> ooh i dunno if they tried that nathan! what do those files do exactly?
 
I think they're for rendering the PS effects on the water, which are required by locs with water (i.e. shore locations).
Though I dunno why reusing the same geometry wouldn't reuse the same foam; so this may not be the issue (it may be a worldmap issue).
 
nathan was right, i've just managed to 'clone' the douwesen beach with the wrecked ship and plop it onto quebradas costillas. huzzah! it doesn't appear on the worldmap, though. i reckon i could make it appear on the worldmap, but i'm not sure the player would be able to dock there because the island model would have no locators to use <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

anyway you just have to copy the directory in resourcefoam, and it should have the same path within there as it has within resourcemodel (for example locationsoutsideship_shore). the files inside should be named after the id of the shore model. then, it should work *fingers crossed*
 
Wow, that was _totally_ out of the blue from me. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" />
Glad it worked!
Um, if that's so, you should be able to just copy the INI to the new folder and let it point at the old TGA...like with the animation files for new head models.
(If that's not already what you're doing, that is).
 
<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" /> FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!! What a breakthrough! WTG!!! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/onya.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="onya.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bounce.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":b:" border="0" alt="bounce.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" />

<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> Can you tell I'm excited by this? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />
 
well, the seven smilies give <i>some</i> indication <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happy.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="^_^" border="0" alt="happy.gif" />
 
So Kieron, does this mean we can then make new beaches (clone them) for use on the other island of FdF or elsewhere? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" />
 
Shores

Kieron this is great!!! Lots of nice places to reuse.

I have only one question: Could you please take it real slow and explain the procedure in detail?

I got this: 1) copy the Douw shore ship to QC and rename it
2) copy the shore_ship folder in "foam" and rename it

3) Now what: the "files inside" is it the 2 files here?
4) do i have to copy in RES/models as well?

I have tried a lot of combinations but not the right one...
These files really gives me the "fever"
 
sorry, i wasn't very clear...

the process is just the same as cloning any other location - copy the definition of the location in the locationsinit folder and give it a new id, etc etc. (you don't even have to copy the model if you don't want to, you can leave the definition pointing to the same model file.) the only difference is that for shore locations, it looks for a 'foam' file in RESOURCEfoam.

if the path of the model of the location you're cloning is resourcemodelslocationsoutsideshore_ship, then the program will look for the foam file in resourcefoamlocationsoutsideshore_ship. <b>if you copied the model, you have to copy the foam directory (and give it the same name). if you're using an existing model, then you should use the existing foam directory.</b>

in that directory there is an .ini file and a .tga.zap file. copy them both, and give the copies your new location's id as their filename, obviously keeping the .ini and .tga.zap extensions.

then, it should work as normal <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happy.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="^_^" border="0" alt="happy.gif" />
 
Have you tried copying and renaming just the ini? Since it's the ini that refers to the tga, so if the copied ini is unchanged it should point to the old tga.
 
oh yes, i forgot <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /> instead of copying both files and renaming, copy just the .ini. thanks nathan <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
<!--`QuoteBegin-CatalinaThePirate`+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CatalinaThePirate)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->So Kieron, does this mean we can then make new beaches (clone them) for use on the other island of FdF or elsewhere?   <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" />[/quote]

oh sorry i didn't see your post before, cat!

yep, it means we can take any of the existing beach models and plop them onto any island anywhere we like. but... thus far i haven't added the beach to the island map, i.e. to let the player dock there. to do that, i think the island would need a locator there. (unless someone comes up with some elaborate way of doing it by code...)
 
YES YES YES

Thank you Kieron, that was a very good explanation. Think I´ll stay home from work tomorrow and play with the shores!
 
<!--`QuoteBegin-Kieron`+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kieron)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->yep, it means we can take any of the existing beach models and plop them onto any island anywhere we like.[/quote]COOL! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="8)" border="0" alt="cool.gif" />

<!--`QuoteBegin-Kieron`+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kieron)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin--> but... thus far i haven't added the beach to the island map, i.e. to let the player dock there. to do that, i think the island would need a locator there. (unless someone comes up with some elaborate way of doing it by code...)[/quote]Someone may yet... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />

Excellent! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/onya.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="onya.gif" />
 
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