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my own officers :O

chrissy2k7

Landlubber
hey guys

theres a problem here, with the fact that every time i go to my cargo hold or the crews quarters on MY ship (or anywhere else on my ship) my own hired officers mercilessly attack me! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" /> it seemed funny at first but its getting annoying now as ive killed 4 of my own officers. does anyone know if its either a new bug or a one off fault or anything? i use a manowar by the way.

thanks <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

captainjacksparrow
 
<!--quoteo(post=288480:date=Nov 11 2008, 07:58 PM:name=captainjacksparrow)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (captainjacksparrow @ Nov 11 2008, 07:58 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=288480"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->hey guys

theres a problem here, with the fact that every time i go to my cargo hold or the crews quarters on MY ship (or anywhere else on my ship) my own hired officers mercilessly attack me! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" /> it seemed funny at first but its getting annoying now as ive killed 4 of my own officers. does anyone know if its either a new bug or a one off fault or anything? i use a manowar by the way.

thanks <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

captainjacksparrow<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


Hmm.. im probably not the best person for this but I personally havnt heard of this one, though without consulting the bugtracker or past threads I cant be sure. So its EVERY time? And I assume they dont do this on land; its only on the deck. Did they do this with other ships or is just the biggies? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

skye
 
nah its not every time,, its something like 9/10. put it this way im suprised when i enter my cargo hold and my carpenter DOESN'T attack me, lol.. and yeah, i went from the default lugger (no problem) to a galleon ( no problem,, then i boarded a manowar and thats where the problem started. and yeah, only on the decks lol. thanks for replying <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
ive tried uploading a screenshot of my officers at work but its not happening for me lol <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" /> its saying i failed the upload to to the memory being over 500k so i dunno how to get it uploaded to show you guys
 
<!--quoteo(post=288666:date=Nov 13 2008, 02:16 AM:name=captainjacksparrow)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (captainjacksparrow @ Nov 13 2008, 02:16 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=288666"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->ive tried uploading a screenshot of my officers at work but its not happening for me lol <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" /> its saying i failed the upload to to the memory being over 500k so i dunno how to get it uploaded to show you guys<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


Right; well I dont think a screenshot will be necessary; Ill take your word for it. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Your using the build 14 alpha 8, right?

If its only the grade one's or ships with a certain amount of cannons then its probably linked to the boarding bug which seems to affect the larger ships worse (for me, anyway). Have you tried reinstalling? If you do this and it doesnt work then it may need to be added to the tracker to see if this is isolated to you or not.

If its the build 13 then this is a new one thus it may only be you getting it. IM assuming youve tried restarting the game? I know that sometimes games start wrong, for instance I often get, when starting, malcolm hatcher ta the left side of the screen PERMANENTLY. He goes if I start again so i dont worry but it may well be something like that. Best way to be sure is to begin again but start with a manowar so your not arsing about with the smallies. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />


Can anyone else shed any light on this? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/buds.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":drunk" border="0" alt="buds.gif" />
Thanks, Skye
 
im using build 14 alpha 6 not 8,, and yeah its only on the big ships. theres another problem aswell when i started a new game malcolm always gives me a crappy gunboat instead of the ship i chose <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /> as you say i think a clean install would be a good idea, maybe the problem will be solved if i do <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" />

thanks again,
captainjacksparrow <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/buds.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":drunk" border="0" alt="buds.gif" />
 
My own officers attacking me has also happened to me on occasion, even in Build 13, if I remember.
It didn't happen as frequently as you mention though.
I hope reinstalling will help. Be sure to follow the instructions carefully. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/doff.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":doff" border="0" alt="doff.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=288712:date=Nov 13 2008, 07:16 PM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pieter Boelen @ Nov 13 2008, 07:16 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=288712"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->My own officers attacking me has also happened to me on occasion, even in Build 13, if I remember.
It didn't happen as frequently as you mention though.
I hope reinstalling will help. Be sure to follow the instructions carefully. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/doff.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":doff" border="0" alt="doff.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If that fails, give alpha 8 a try! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Skye
 
That's going to give you some worse bugs though.
BUT also some really cool new features. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />
 
hmm i cant re-install just yet as im very busy and i have no time, ive just came on here to ask wether i can keep my save files after re-installing? i think l do it sometime at the weekend <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

cheers <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/buds.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":drunk" border="0" alt="buds.gif" />
 
well, i reinstalled as per your instructions (i got rid of that minor ''not being able to choose my own ship at the beginning'' problem,, but unfortuately the officers attacking me bug still has not gone away <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /> isnt there any way to ensure my officers simply do not appear arpund my ship, whilst still keeping them on board? from what i can recall they never used to randomly appear in my crews quarters/cargo hold etc..... at the moment my cargo hold is beginning to overflow with prisoners and i cant kill the officers as hold them in high regard and would prefer to keep them <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

also, this is a seperate issue, i thought i might aswell add it on here instead of starting a new topic. in the 'strange things in archipelago' quest, i deliver the letter to the priest on isla muelle, who in return asks me to deliver a letter to the priest on redmond. i walk out of the church and the three red robed men come p to me and instead of threatening or attacing me they just stand there. and i cant talk to them it just says ''trying to speak with the dead, is your name hamlet maybe?'' or something. i looked in the old topics but cant make any sense out of them :/ any advice on this?

thanks again for all the help you guys give me <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":bow" border="0" alt="bow.gif" />

captainjacksparrow <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/buds.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":drunk" border="0" alt="buds.gif" />
 
Have you tried killing the three of them? That usually lets me get past that part of the quest whenever that happens.
 
yeah ive tried that twice <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mellow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":|" border="0" alt="mellow.gif" />



EDIT: I found a way to get past the problem, by enabling 'fast travel' in the quests_reaction.c document thing, enabled me to skip the fight with the robed men and go straight to redmond... however i am now at the part of the quest where you must speak with the robed man in the greenford prison and it is the same ''your name is hamlet maybe?'' also with me not even being able to walk on my own ship is starting to annoy me and im spending more time trying to fix my problems instead of actually playing the game. maybe i could use the ransom mod so i dont actually have to go on to my deck, but it is still a bug you guys should know about.. im just annoyed i cannot take the mefisto quest any further due to the guy being 'dead'.
 
right, this game is really taking the mick now.. i decided to abandon the mefisto quest for a while, and pursue the main quest. im at douwesen with danielle and i have located raoul rheims in the tavern. i go to speak with him, and il give you three guesses what it says .... well i wont give you three guesses il just tell you. ''to speak with dead bodies, your name is hamlet maybe?'',,,, i must have some major bug with my characters and i dont know how to fix it. basically at the moment all my quests are unplayable <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=289127:date=Nov 17 2008, 12:40 AM:name=captainjacksparrow)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (captainjacksparrow @ Nov 17 2008, 12:40 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=289127"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->right, this game is really taking the mick now.. i decided to abandon the mefisto quest for a while, and pursue the main quest. im at douwesen with danielle and i have located raoul rheims in the tavern. i go to speak with him, and il give you three guesses what it says .... well i wont give you three guesses il just tell you. ''to speak with dead bodies, your name is hamlet maybe?'',,,, i must have some major bug with my characters and i dont know how to fix it. basically at the moment all my quests are unplayable <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


So its probably a quest bug? Going by what your saying then it is. To be honest, if youve tried reinstalling then the best I can say is to install another version and try that; as PB says, 8 has some real nice features so long as your ready to embrace some rather vicious bugs.

Skye
 
In <a href="http://forum.piratesahoy.net//index.php?showtopic=11940&st=0&p=260150&#entry260150" target="_blank">this old topic</a> long ago I had posted a temporary fix. Hope it can still help.

For Raoul Reims, replace "Mystery_Man_01" by "Raoul Rheims"
 
hmm i tried that actualy before posting the problem on here, but the character was no diferent, and i tried both of them lines, i even tried both at the same time. do you have to put them somewhere specific because i was just making space for them, then pasting them.... also, i re-extracted build 14 a6 and ran preset, then runme, and this was at the bottom:

Could Not Find C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Pirates of the Caribbean\PROG
RAM\DIALOGS\*.h
The system cannot find the file specified.
Could Not Find C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Pirates of the Caribbean\RESO
URCE\INI\TEXTS\common.ini
Could Not Find C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Pirates of the Caribbean\PROG
RAM\BuildSettings.h
The system cannot find the file specified.
The directory is not empty.

im not good at this stuff but has my problem got anything to do with that missing files?

thanks again <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

captainjacksparrow
 
Well, I don't think these runme.bat warnings should be taken seriously. It's just checking witch kind of stock PotC you have - for example, if you had the dialog .h files just in PROGRAM/DIALOGS, and not in PROGRAM/DIALOGS/ENGLISH, I think that would have meant you had an US game or something like that. It's told to move those to ENGLISH folders if it find any, as it doesn't, it's just warning you about it. Not a big deal.

So you had found this bugfix before, but it didn't solve the issue? Ouch...
Just to be sure : the only thing you had to do was copying them in PROGRAM/console.c under <!--c1--><div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><!--ec1-->void ExecuteConsole()
{
    ref pchar = GetMainCharacter();
    ref ch;
    int i;<!--c2--></div><!--ec2-->and press F12 ingame. If your console script isn't wrong somewhere, you should have seen 'Executed Console' appearing at the top left hedge of the screen. And that should have solved the bug... in Build 13 at least. I'm not quite sure about other Build versions.

Could you try again with Raoul Reims ? (with a bit of luck...)
<!--c1--><div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><!--ec1-->DeleteAttribute(characterFromID("Raoul Rheims"), "corpse");
characters[GetCharacterIndex("Raoul Rheims")].dialog.filename = "raoul rheims_dialog.c";
Characters[GetCharacterIndex("Raoul Rheims")].Dialog.CurrentNode = "First time";<!--c2--></div><!--ec2-->
 
before i tried to edit the console i re extracted build 14 a6 onto my game and now it seems old raoul rheims has decided to co-operate and magically is now working. weird i know, but he is. however my animist red robed people still are not responding, with the very annoying ''your name is hamlet maybe?'' appearing. but the thing is, i dont think im putting the code in right. here is how i put it in. is this right?

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

// Jerry-rigged console file.
//put code under ExecuteConsole() below.
//NK 04-08-28
// not needed I think extern void InitShips();
#include "SDK\LocatorWrite.c"
#include "Upgrade.c";
extern void InitItems();
extern void InitCannons();

void ExecuteConsole()
{
ref pchar =
ref ch;
int i;

GetMainCharacter();DeleteAttribute(characterFromID("Dark Captain"), "corpse");
characters[GetCharacterIndex("Dark Captain")].dialog.filename = "Dark Captain_dialog.c";
Characters[GetCharacterIndex("Dark Captain")].Dialog.CurrentNode = "First time";

// ccc Nov06 Directsail, displays your position in relation to island
if( bSeaActive && !bAbordageStarted )
{

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EDIT: it seems the bug is fixing one step at a time. i realised now that when i visit the jail for the umpteenth time the robed guy now has his name 'mystery man partner' appear in the top left corner of the screen when i confront of him, instead of that dead stuff. however he is stil dead when i speak to him (your name is hamlet maybe?) and his H is 0/80 :/ so that code seemed to only partially fix the problem. :/
 
Damn; sounds buggy.
Can anybody confirm these issues?
I though Build 13 was fairly good. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" />
 
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