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nich666

Sailor Apprentice
Hi Folks, I'm new here but have been rummaging around PoTC playing with XP for ages, but have just fired up Vista64 on a whizz bang PC. The game loads build 13 (albeit with a tiny square on a 24inch monitor) and plays well EXCEPT that I cannot save any game at any point, even when I have just got rid of Malcolm. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" /> The new build 13 configuration icon also has a 'no engine.ini or options file missed' message although the other square pirate icon loads the game normally. It is no good progressing when having to start all over again every time??? Poo! Any suggestions are welcome to an old salty sailor. Thanks.
 
I don't have Vista (am currently running XP), but I've seen this mentioned a few times before, and it seems to work for some problems:

turn off the User Account Control in the Control Panel

I'd suggest more, but my Vista experience is limited to a 10-minute session with a store demo computer - that OS seems to be a rather strange beast. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />
 
Can you save before installing the Build mod? I recall hearing this before, but don't recall why this happened. I can save just fine on Windows Vista myself. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_confused.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="icon_confused.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=249802:date=Apr 9 2008, 01:04 PM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pieter Boelen @ Apr 9 2008, 01:04 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=249802"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Can you save before installing the Build mod? I recall hearing this before, but don't recall why this happened. I can save just fine on Windows Vista myself. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thanks for the speedy replies chaps. Hi Pieter, It saves OK before build13 (unlucky number?). Now I have discovered that it will still save, although not every time...but doesn't record the screen in the 'load' window. All I get is a quick flash of white, (not very erotic though), as I press save. The small square that should record the saved screen then shows just the background. I have to guess the past saves and keep loading until I hit the right one. GRRRR.
For anyone using Vista (Thanks for the tip Stallion, Vista is a strange beast, so I feel at home)~ To save changes in the build h. file you need to turn off UAC in Control/User accounts but the game runs the same afterwards, on or off. It doesn't seem to affect the 'save' glitch I have.
I am also trying to increase the game window so it plays larger than half an A4 sheet on the 24inch screen, since the config. application refuses to load as it can't find itself. This can alter the playing res.? The error code says 'Engine.ini or options file missed'. It strikes me that if the thing can't find itself what chance do I have? It probably needs some alternative therapy. I am fairly sure I don't. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/beer2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":beer" border="0" alt="beer2.gif" /> Well, maybe this...
All in all, a great game. At least the problems keep you thinking, how can we ever be bored???
I have found a complete Ship List posted by a member, Brilliant, must have taken ages, but couldn't live with the spelling/syntax mistakes so spent a year, it seems, highlighting the ships and making a Word Doc. to my taste. It makes choosing whether to change a ship much less of a trial.
Real, as against virtual, sailing is much less stressful. Thanks for the help. Regards, Brian.
 
Perhaps you have less troubles saving if you install the game outside the Program Files folder? I have it in C:\Games\Pirates of the Caribbean and it works fine there on Vista.

What ship list are you talking about? As far as I know, <a href="http://s31clan.com/privateftps/pietersmods/ships.htm" target="_blank">mine</a> doesn't have spelling/syntax mistakes.

I also recall that problem with the Config.exe file; strangely enough, I did see it working on my Vista on occasion. But you can always change the options manually by opening engine.ini in Notepad.
 
Hi Pieter, That might work on mine but as I have now captured a Ketch and spoken to Silhard starting yet again is a bit of a sod. (olde English). If this goes tits up I will certainly reinstall as you suggest.

My God what a really great comprehensive list with images, surely must be every possible ship up to now? The list I stumbled on was by that prolific Morgan Terror Feb 16th. 2008 Post #11. Thanks MT.
here ~ <a href="http://forum.piratesahoy.net//index.php?showtopic=11613&hl=Full+svreen" target="_blank">http://forum.piratesahoy.net//index.php?sh...;hl=Full+svreen</a>

What he has done is give an appraisal of each vessel as he sees it. It would run to quite a few pages but merging the two would be really comprehensive. As it now stands my list is 3 pages with the map on the last page.

I will have a go at hacking at engine.ini in notepad.
Have fun on your steamer. Regards, Brian. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sailr.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":sail" border="0" alt="sailr.gif" />
 
Starting again? You don't need to, do you? Either you backup your savegames, then reinstall or you just move your game folder elsewhere manually and update your shortcuts. Should be really easy, be real quick and no starting a new game required. Hopefully that'd work.

My list contains almost all ships currently in my game. Some are not yet released in a Build or Build Alpha and there's even a couple that are not yet listed at all.

Feel free to put Morgan's assessments of the ships into my full list if you like. I just made my list in order to categorize all ships and choose which nations should use them and in which time period for a future mod.
 
i could turn my opinion of the ships into a more general form, including info on the actual ship in real life. like this:

cutter:

a small coastal vessel fitted with cannons to make it suitable for combat. it's a nippy little craft, extremely manuevrable and quite fast as well. rigged with a spanker and jib, as well as a topsail at times, it's easy to handle by the relatively small crew. excellent for boarding other ships and a good step towards getting yourself a bigger ship like a lugger, ketch or sloop. however, though very agile, it's quite flimsy and can't handle heavy fire from a larger ship. avoid those broadsides and ramming!
 
<!--quoteo(post=250047:date=Apr 11 2008, 03:47 PM:name=Morgan Terror)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Morgan Terror @ Apr 11 2008, 03:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=250047"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->i could turn my opinion of the ships into a more general form, including info on the actual ship in real life. like this:

cutter:

a small coastal vessel fitted with cannons to make it suitable for combat. it's a nippy little craft, extremely manuevrable and quite fast as well. rigged with a spanker and jib, as well as a topsail at times, it's easy to handle by the relatively small crew. excellent for boarding other ships and a good step towards getting yourself a bigger ship like a lugger, ketch or sloop. however, though very agile, it's quite flimsy and can't handle heavy fire from a larger ship. avoid those broadsides and ramming!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Thanks guys, I have tried moving the game about in the past to a different folder and have ended up in the drink with the game stopped loading looking for the engine.ini. Exporting and re-installing the saved games after moving the main game may bring back the saved icons??? Hmmmm.

I have now put the 'Original Disk game' and build 13 separately in their own folders so that they can be re-installed if necessary, without being altered by accident.
I had a look in engine.ini and fullscreen = 1. Should I alter this to 0 or 2 or change the actual x/y screen res. directly to 1920x1200? Even if the playing screen has a black surround is fine as long as it is bigger than a half A4.

Hey Terrible Morgan, That is a superb idea but will take a lot of dedication. If you have Word it may be easier and quicker as it spell checks and capitalises as you go along. I find your original opinions really quite accurate but the description above says it all if you can muster the stamina for the rest. What do others think? Regards, Brian.
 
Oh, I can do caps, don't worry. I'm just too lazy most of the time. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> As for the dedication, I made the previous list, didn't I? However, I'm not experienced with each and every ship in the game. But I figure the ships.init file will help me out there or whatever the file was that I needed. I have the ships list favorited, so it doesn't really matter.
 
<!--quoteo(post=250105:date=Apr 11 2008, 08:49 PM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pieter Boelen @ Apr 11 2008, 08:49 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=250105"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->fullscreen should be 1.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Well matloes PANIC OVER. I changed the screen res. x/y in engine.ini to the same res. as my screen 1920x1200 and the stupid save icons now work, and show the screen capture. They were not able to before as the game/screen res. was so different? That's my theory anyway. And full screen is spectacular.

Way to go Morgan; if you are not sure about ship operating specs. shout to the forum. I poo pooed some until reading your list. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_praise.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":bow" border="0" alt="icon_praise.gif" />
 
you really have too much respect for me mate. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> making the list tomorrow is at least partially impossible as i will be gone for that day. and sunday there's my sister's birthday (don't congratulate me, she's a true annoyance, and that's not just me saying that), so that leaves little room. but i might be able to post it in sections. i had originally been toying with the idea to make small ship discriptions for in the game like with the items, so i might just as well make them for the topic, whatever topic that may be.
 
<!--quoteo(post=250128:date=Apr 11 2008, 10:04 PM:name=Morgan Terror)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Morgan Terror @ Apr 11 2008, 10:04 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=250128"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->you really have too much respect for me mate. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> making the list tomorrow is at least partially impossible as i will be gone for that day. and sunday there's my sister's birthday (don't congratulate me, she's a true annoyance, and that's not just me saying that), so that leaves little room. but i might be able to post it in sections. i had originally been toying with the idea to make small ship discriptions for in the game like with the items, so i might just as well make them for the topic, whatever topic that may be.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Hey i'm in no hurry. (How old's your sister?). Seriously though, as they get older they get more helpful. Be nice to her. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/8q.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":8q" border="0" alt="8q.gif" />

I now find turning on UAC in Vista lets the game play but will refuse to save. Be warned. Grrrr.
 
Perhaps Vista has troubles allowing the game to write to the Program Files directory. I recommend you move the game elsewhere; I have mine in C:\Games\Pirates of the Caribbean and I have no problem saving.
 
my sister only gets worse when she gets older. heck, you can't leave anything lying around here, no money either. especially money, in fact. she's 14 today and the worst case of being a teenager i've ever met.

i have a little work to do for today, so no working on the list. i think i will do it quite soon, as i like talking about ships. i touch up on my technical knowledge frequently, which i mainly use in my drawings.
 
<!--quoteo(post=250297:date=Apr 13 2008, 07:29 PM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pieter Boelen @ Apr 13 2008, 07:29 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=250297"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Perhaps Vista has troubles allowing the game to write to the Program Files directory. I recommend you move the game elsewhere; I have mine in C:\Games\Pirates of the Caribbean and I have no problem saving.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Pieter, I did as you suggested and made a new folder in C:\ and IT WORKED. I am a tad disappointed as I want to keep all the non-essentials, games etc. in the second D:\ drive to keep C:\ clear. I just have now to crack the random freeze that happens in Vista64 occasionally, forcing a hard boot, though to be fair it has happened outside PoTC too. Thanks again, Brian.
 
In theory you should be able to play the game from drive D:\ as well; just make sure it's not in Program Files. D:\Games\Pirates of the Caribbean should work just as well as C:\Games\Pirates of the Caribbean.
 
<!--quoteo(post=252407:date=Apr 24 2008, 10:42 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pieter Boelen @ Apr 24 2008, 10:42 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=252407"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->In theory you should be able to play the game from drive D:\ as well; just make sure it's not in Program Files. D:\Games\Pirates of the Caribbean should work just as well as C:\Games\Pirates of the Caribbean.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Just to let you know: I have six versions of PotC which I can run individually from my D: drive. I have them all saved in a My Documents file (each sub-named for the version it is) and they all work fine as and when I call them up. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
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