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Pirates of the Caribbean: Community Prequel Script

referring to your last post: it's related to your postcount. i'm a spaz pirate. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" /> what you see now is my custom member title, as with pieter.
 
<!--quoteo(post=213878:date=Sep 8 2007, 12:06 PM:name=morgan terror)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(morgan terror @ Sep 8 2007, 12:06 PM) [snapback]213878[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->referring to your last post: it's related to your postcount. i'm a spaz pirate. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" /> what you see now is my custom member title, as with pieter.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
How do you get a custom member title?
 
I like the "focusing on your favorite character" bit, because it sometimes gets hard for me to write on such a topic and not make it sound so <i>"Leftenant, strike th' gallants." "Aye Sir!"</i>. Perhaps I could focus on writing Royal Navy and EIC scenes? (EIC as in Beckett... I know who you'd want to write on Mercer! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" />)

Perhaps we could formulate a certain system? When we come up with ideas, Mercer writes them.

I could write out all the sea battles and the sort that involves less dialogue and more description. When we finish a part of the script we know is in for good and won't get edited, I could draw up some storyboards and scan them! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />
 
Very Good sir, I agree completely. Because sometimes on characters i dont care much about i just rush through and dont give it my all. I will write anything you guys give me and put it into movie format. Now, Commodore, we can be somewhat descriptive on the sea battles, but in the script it is going to be like: Pearl manuvers to the rear of a 75 gun SOTL and rakes her. Just something simple like that. Dont feel bad if i take alot of the color out of things, believe me it hurts ME to take color out of my own script. Once you submit somethings to me on Beckett for instance, i will find a place where it will fit well in the final script. And, as usual if Mercer is not on a mission for Beckett, i will try to include him in the script. I love Murtogg and Mulroy, they are so funny with their arguments, believe me i have about 3 planned for the script. Also, Commodore could you think of another EIC officer, I just need a stock lieutenant, kind of a second in command pro-tempore in Mercer's abscence. That would help things alot. Also in my script where it says: Mr. Evans, i have no clue why i put that, it should be Mr. Gibbs.
 
<!--quoteo(post=213886:date=Sep 8 2007, 07:12 PM:name=Commodore John Paul Jones)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Commodore John Paul Jones @ Sep 8 2007, 07:12 PM) [snapback]213886[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I like the "focusing on your favorite character" bit, because it sometimes gets hard for me to write on such a topic and not make it sound so <i>"Leftenant, strike th' gallants." "Aye Sir!"</i>. Perhaps I could focus on writing Royal Navy and EIC scenes? (EIC as in Beckett... I know who you'd want to write on Mercer! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" />)

Perhaps we could formulate a certain system? When we come up with ideas, Mercer writes them.

I could write out all the sea battles and the sort that involves less dialogue and more description. When we finish a part of the script we know is in for good and won't get edited, I could draw up some storyboards and scan them! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
LOVE the story-boards idea. Perfect idea. And for everyones knowledge, when you write Mercer keep things cold, and sinister. Nothing like Becketts "pip pip toodely dee" type dialogue, just simple and to the point. Also have a cold sense of humor. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" /> I also could draw up a story board if we get a bit behind in the work thats somewhere i could lend a hand. (Just on ships though, i stink at people, even though they are not stick people, i am just never satisfied with them).
 
Aye, my people are sort of iffy too.

I believe that slightly more detail is needed in a sea battle, because there are so many things that happen that effect what happens. Where is the wind? Current? How close is the bottom? What set of canvas are they under? Shot type?

This is a sample of a young Commander Norrington in action against a Spaniard. (It's from my novel... no copies please! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> )
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->As I strode to the standing compass, a small pillar of water shot up off our starboard waist. It was a good four and a half cables. We had to move quickly, for the next salvo would be more precise.
"Time, Mr. Gillette." I said intently.
"Another minute or so Sir."Gillette reported, he instantly knew what to do next, "Mr. Groves, ready your guns for the first broadside."
"Aye Lieutenant!" Groves responded, "You heard him, to your stations, have those linstocks ready."
The sound of the crew moving to their guns could be heard as the sound of another gun rumbled across the waves. I tried to look for the thread of powder that followed the unseen shot as it moaned towards the <i>Interceptor</i>. Then I spied the finger of powder, I gripped the rail, turning my knuckles white as I held my breath. The shot passed only a mere five feet abaft our stern and smacked into the water, throwing up a tower of spray.
I lessened my grip on the rail upon knowing that our speed was enough to evade the enemy's guns. A salvo from the battery was out of the question, by the time it took to calculate the angle to starboard so the shots would rendezvous with us, we would be behind the cliffs in their blind spot.
The <i>Conquistador</i> saw this and knew the time to pounce was now. Her studdingsails blossomed out onto their yards and the heavy frigate leapt across the water towards us. It was a truly terrifying sight, to see such an immense amount of firepower sailing straight for us at top speed. I swallowed any last doubts and wore a determined expression. I would not strike my colors and fail my mission.
The enemy frigate was only a couple hundred yards away now. The moment to strike had arrived.
I flung my sword from its scabbard and bellowed, "FIRE AS YOU BEAR!"
The deck shook beneath my feet as the first broadside sent the guns reeling inboard, yanking on their tackles. In a hole through the smoke I could see our tiny six pound balls hitting the <i>Conquistador</i>, doing little more than chipping off a few splinters that rocketed through the air and parting a couple of lines. Smoke was everywhere, but not for long. We were moving so fast that the cloud of gun smoke was astern within seconds.
Groves was shouting wildly below us; I could hear the men hard at work, the muffled plunge of the wadding and powder being rammed home and the scrape of iron shot that followed.
The <i>Conquistador's</i> bow chasers thundered sharply. It was the deep, grotesque sound of heavy guns. To my amazement, neither shot hit us, but the sound of the ammunition that they were using sent a chill down my spine. The whirring of chain shot. They intended to dismast us and take us alive. I strode to Gillette, knowing that my every action was being watched by the Don's captain.
"Prepare to alter course a point. The shoals are worst off the larboard bow." I said quietly.
Gillette nodded, "Shall I make it look unorganized, an attempt to run for the open seas?"
"Yes, you may." I said.
"Second barrage ready Sir!" Groves reported.
"Then you may fire the guns, Mr. Groves!" I replied, "Lively now!"
Groves grinned and drew out his dirk, "As you bear... FIRE!"
The second broadside caused the Interceptor to shudder in a sweeping motion. With each firing of the gun, the vibration grew more intense as the guns closer to us recoiled.
As the gun smoke cleared I could see the <i>Conquistador's</i> bow. It looked rather scraped up, but that could hardly be defined as damage inflicted during battle. However, it was clearly enough to provoke the Don. His bow was beginning to swing round to follow our movements, to move in for the kill.
I needed no leadsmen to find the bottom as the crew scrambled topside and up onto the ratlines. The sharp, jagged shoals were a dim, yet clear and present danger only feet below us. I prayed to God the enemy would not happen to notice this.
They already had.
The <i>Conquistador</i> was teeming with activity as they loosened the anchor from its fixed point just under the foremast's channel at the billboard.
"Murtogg, man that swivel!" I bellowed, "The anchor cable!"
Murtogg's face said that was an impossible shot, but he sprinted aft and took hold of the starboard quarter's swivel. Bending over to aim down the sight, he adjusted the miniature cannon.
The Spanish frigate's anchor cast off and dropped from the side in an attempt to stop the ship before it ran aground. The cast iron weight plunged into the water and the cable quivered as it sank for the bottom. It would grab hold in a matter of seconds.
Murtogg squeezed his eyes shut and pulled the trigger. The swivel cracked loudly and a puff of the transparent blue smoke coiled up into the sky. The solid two pound ball whistled towards the frigate and there was a squeaky pop. We looked on in disbelief at the anchor cable that danced about freely about six feet above the water. Murtogg had shot off the end of the cable.
My crew, the marines loudest of all, shouted and whooped. 'Huzzah!'s' came from all over the <i>Interceptor</i> as we sped over the lethal shoals and left them behind, the <i>Conquistador</i> involuntary followed as her crew panicked. I could hear the Spaniards' shouts as her bow struck the bottom.
It was over.
The <i>Conquistador's</i> keel was torn off, and as the shoals reached farther back, it smashed into the footings of the masts, shoving them forward, ripping away from their rigging and toppling forward onto the bow, smashing up the head timbers. The force and weight shoved the bow low in the water, which caught on the rest of the shoals and was literally punched inward like an accordion. The planking snapped, splintered, and blew into millions of jagged pieces as the ship rammed into the bottom, disintegrating as it went.
When the ship, or what was left of it slowed and settled to a drift, all that was left was the bulwarks of the bow, sections of the waist and the ship was intact from just aft of the mizzen and on. Debris was scattered all over the water as the <i>Conquistador</i> leveled and began to settle to the bottom. Within a few minutes, all that could be seen was the shadow of its wreck just under the surface and a few furnishings poking up out of the water here or there.
"Take in sail, Mr. Gillette, and anchor in the deep water off the shoals. We shall launch the boats and pick up the survivors." I gave him a serious look, "We are the enemy, but we are humane gentlemen as well."<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


What about an EIC captain instead of a lieutenant? It would allow us to put someone in a cool uniform and give the EIC a little more when it comes to leadership and nautical expertise. He could be Beckett's flag-captain. This character could also do a little more independent running around with an EIC heavy frigate or third rate when Beckett sits around in his map covered office. The uniform would look like Admiral Norrington's, just without the gold trim on the buttonholes of the lapels and a different braid on the cuff. The best part about this idea is filling in the blanks of the EIC. We see admirals, lieutenants, midshipmen and first rates... but no captains, commanders, seventy-fours, and smaller vessels.
 
<!--quoteo(post=213886:date=Sep 8 2007, 08:12 PM:name=Commodore John Paul Jones)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Commodore John Paul Jones @ Sep 8 2007, 08:12 PM) [snapback]213886[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I like the "focusing on your favorite character" bit, because it sometimes gets hard for me to write on such a topic and not make it sound so <i>"Leftenant, strike th' gallants." "Aye Sir!"</i>. Perhaps I could focus on writing Royal Navy and EIC scenes? (EIC as in Beckett... I know who you'd want to write on Mercer! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" />)

Perhaps we could formulate a certain system? When we come up with ideas, Mercer writes them.

I could write out all the sea battles and the sort that involves less dialogue and more description. When we finish a part of the script we know is in for good and won't get edited, I could draw up some storyboards and scan them! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think that is an excellent idea as well, Commodore. Focusing on our individual strengths in regard to the story will make for a stronger script. I know so far it has mainly been Mercer and yourself contributing ideas to the script and myself and others offering our opinions, but I will soon be contributing ideas as well as soon as time allows.

<!--quoteo(post=213881:date=Sep 8 2007, 01:29 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Sep 8 2007, 01:29 PM) [snapback]213881[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=213878:date=Sep 8 2007, 12:06 PM:name=morgan terror)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(morgan terror @ Sep 8 2007, 12:06 PM) [snapback]213878[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->referring to your last post: it's related to your postcount. i'm a spaz pirate. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" /> what you see now is my custom member title, as with pieter.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
How do you get a custom member title?
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Mercer, just click on <b>My Controls</b> in the menu and then<b> Edit Profile Options.</b> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=213872:date=Sep 8 2007, 12:27 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Sep 8 2007, 12:27 PM) [snapback]213872[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Very well put Old Salt. I agree, everyone should not be hurt by others opinions, (unless they are meant to be hurtful). Me and Commodore John Paul Jones solved our differences as you can see. I didnt mean to offend him, and we worked things out. Problems are not solved by venting back at someone who feels offended. I have spoken alot on the ego thing, because it is important. Especially when it comes to deciding the content of the final draft. We have to act adult like about it, and not get angry when a part that we are most assuredly, absolutely, undenyably sure must be in the script, is not voted into the script. If we start doing that this script idea is going to crash and burn. We are doing this for the series, not for ourselves. I dont care if they use it, and dont put my name in the credits. At least I know that i have contributed, and a great movie is the result of my contributions.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Excellent attitude. I picked up on that after you and Commodore had that disagreement, you both handled it in a professional manner. And believe me that went a long way to I think proving to everyone that we have the right people working on our project. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=213873:date=Sep 8 2007, 12:29 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Sep 8 2007, 12:29 PM) [snapback]213873[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Old Salt,
I always have wanted to ask where you got that little mouse at the bottom of your script from. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sorry, Mercer, almost missed that question. I've had that little mouse running down there for six months now. I liked the idea of an animated signature after seeing one that Meigger had of a guy fishing from his boat and reeling in the line, so I searched around and stumbled across that mouse on a website. I put him in photobucket so I wouldn't lose the link and forgot now which website it was. Just google "animated mouse" or "animated clipart" and there will probably be loads of sites that come up with animated characters you could put in the sig if you want. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />
 
Old Salt, i am going to be straight and clean about this, i am not the most knowlegable about computer workings so forgive me for this air-headed question, but Under Edit Profile Options what to i fill in to change my title. Again, forgive me if it is a duh question. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" />
 
Commodore, i must flatter you, again i build ship models, and read books, so i know a sizable amount about rigging parts, but Sheeeeit man! You are the one i will come to if i need some help with anything to do with a part of a ship i have forgotten the name of, or just plain dont know. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_praise.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":bow" border="0" alt="icon_praise.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=213902:date=Sep 8 2007, 10:43 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Sep 8 2007, 10:43 PM) [snapback]213902[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Old Salt, i am going to be straight and clean about this, i am not the most knowlegable about computer workings so forgive me for this air-headed question, but Under Edit Profile Options what to i fill in to change my title. Again, forgive me if it is a duh question. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No such thing as a stupid question, as the old adage goes. After you click <b>Edit Profile Options</b>, just click in the top strip to the right of where it says <b>Custom Member Title</b> (above the date of birth line) and type whatever you want in there. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />
 
Commodore, in your novel snippet you could almost feel the sea spray and experience the adrenaline rush during the lopsided battle that Norrington realized was skewed heavily in the enemy's favor, and the rush to euphoria as they pulled victory from the jaws of a certain defeat. And the imagery describing the death of the Conquistador was enough to almost see it in the mind's eye. When I write I love to try to paint a moving picture with the words I use and you have captured that here. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbs1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":2up" border="0" alt="thumbs1.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=213903:date=Sep 8 2007, 10:49 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Sep 8 2007, 10:49 PM) [snapback]213903[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Commodore, i must flatter you, again i build ship models, and read books, so i know a sizable amount about rigging parts, but Sheeeeit man! You are the one i will come to if i need some help with anything to do with a part of a ship i have forgotten the name of, or just plain dont know. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_praise.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":bow" border="0" alt="icon_praise.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


And I am flattered! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> This is nothing compared to Patrick O'Brian! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

The cool thing about the <i>Conquistador's</i> demise is that I wrote this scene shortly after DMC came out, so when I saw the <i>Endeavor</i> meet her end (as unrealistic for a first rate as it was) I was shocked.... it looked exactly how I saw the Spaniard's destruction!
 
<!--quoteo(post=213904:date=Sep 8 2007, 11:32 PM:name=Old Salt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Old Salt @ Sep 8 2007, 11:32 PM) [snapback]213904[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=213902:date=Sep 8 2007, 10:43 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Sep 8 2007, 10:43 PM) [snapback]213902[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Old Salt, i am going to be straight and clean about this, i am not the most knowlegable about computer workings so forgive me for this air-headed question, but Under Edit Profile Options what to i fill in to change my title. Again, forgive me if it is a duh question. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No such thing as a stupid question, as the old adage goes. After you click <b>Edit Profile Options</b>, just click in the top strip to the right of where it says <b>Custom Member Title</b> (above the date of birth line) and type whatever you want in there. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />
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I see the date of birth line, but no custom member tile line, it just says in blue that changes are optional. Oh, and by the way Old Salt, i found the site with the scared mouse.
 
Damn it! Thats the 5th time ive tried a little animated guy at the bottom, and it doesnt work, you have to click on the picture to get it to work
 
About the custom title: I think you can only change your title when you have reached a certain postcount.
About the animated character: Upload the file somewhere and link to it using [ img ]http://yourlink.com/filename.gif[ /img ] (remove the spaces).
About the PotC 4 script: I would still be quite interested to know what you and other people think of the ideas I posted. They're not ALL bad, are they? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=213926:date=Sep 9 2007, 10:38 AM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Sep 9 2007, 10:38 AM) [snapback]213926[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Damn it! Thats the 5th time ive tried a little animated guy at the bottom, and it doesnt work, you have to click on the picture to get it to work<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Mercer, do you have photobucket? That might be the best bet because you can then use that site to link whatever image you want to put in your signature.
 
<!--quoteo(post=213927:date=Sep 9 2007, 10:49 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Sep 9 2007, 10:49 AM) [snapback]213927[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->About the custom title: I think you can only change your title when you have reached a certain postcount.
About the animated character: Upload the file somewhere and link to it using [ img ]http://yourlink.com/filename.gif[ /img ] (remove the spaces).
About the PotC 4 script: I would still be quite interested to know what you and other people think of the ideas I posted. They're not ALL bad, are they? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sorry, Pieter, didn't see your post. I think that is the best explanation about why he can't change his title. I didn't even think about changing my title till I was around 4,000 posts (it said Spaz Pirate and I needed to change that <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" /> ) so I guess that's why it worked.
Also, I'm sorry I haven't responded to your ideas, I'll go back and read them again. Sometimes in these threads you move ahead so fast to another page and some great ideas are lost. That's the only drawback. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=213792:date=Sep 7 2007, 10:34 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Sep 7 2007, 10:34 AM) [snapback]213792[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->As promised, here come a bunch of my own ideas.

<i><b>Main Character(s)</b></i>
As great a character as Jack Sparrow is, he was never the main character of any of the movies. So is Jack Sparrow going to be the main character of the prequel? Personally I think he shouldn't be the main character. Instead he should greatly influence the stories of the real main characters. I would personally suggest taking James Norrington as the main character. I think Norrington is a great character who deserves to get more attention. However, Jack and Norrington should never actually meet during the film.

Imagine Jack actually being one the main causes for Norrington's success, without Norrington actually knowing it. I think it would be great fun if Jack would (more-or-less accidentally) do a lot of good during the course of the film and in some ways actually helping Norrington with several things, without either of them knowing it. Imagine the irony then when Jack and Norrington finally meet during CotBP: Norrington wants to kill Jack immediately for being a pirate, not knowing how much he actually owes Jack.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It is interesting that Jack wasn't really the focal point of the first movie, but I think he kinda became it in the sequels. The first movie opened up with Elizabeth and then Will and Jack of course doesn't make his odd entrance until later so I do agree with Pieter on that assessment.
Your Norrington/Sparrow angle is an interesting one. Norrington however didn't know who Jack was until he looked at his arm and saw the tattoo (of course he had heard of Jack because all he needed to see was that tattoo to state his full name) "Jack Sparrow isn't it?" So its obvious then that they cannot meet at all in any prequel.
<!--quoteo(post=213792:date=Sep 7 2007, 10:34 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Sep 7 2007, 10:34 AM) [snapback]213792[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><i><b>Jack Sparrow</b></i>
Naturally the prequel film should contain some of Jack's backstory. How he once worked for Beckett and captained the EITC ship Wicked Wench. How he refused to transfer the slaves for Beckett and was branded a pirate in return. How the Wicked Wench was sunk and then subsequently the deal with Davy Jones.

In the three current PotC films, there never was much character development for Jack. So I think it'd be great to have major character development for Jack here. The first time we see Jack in the film, he is a respectable EITC captain in the employ of Beckett. As the movie progresses, we see respectable, honest Jack turning into the pirate Jack we all know.

As far as Jack's personality goes, I think he should start out as a just plain repectable man*. Smart, clever and witty as we all know him, but quite gullible and much too trustworthy as well. During the course of the movie, we see Jack becoming much less trusting and, in turn, becoming much less trustworthy. He will learn that he must be as smart and clever as the forces that orchestrate his life to be able to overcome those forces and lead his own life. At the beginning of the film, Jack is but a gullible pawn in the game of Cutler Beckett. At the end of the film, it should be Beckett who is the pawn in Jack's game. This will then also result in the mark Jack left on Beckett: Jack somehow made a proper fool of Beckett. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/razz.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":razz" border="0" alt="razz.gif" />

Jack transformation should also be visible in his clothing. For an example, see below images of Jack progressively becoming more like the Jack we all know. In the first picture, he is a respectable captain. In the second picture, his hair is longer and he already has a bit of a beard. In the third picture he resembles the Jack we know, but his hair isn't quite as dirty yet and his clothes are still in light colours. In the fourth picture Jack has complete changed into the Jack we know.
[attachment=1138:1_Respec..._Captain.jpg] [attachment=1139:2_Pirate_Captain.jpg] [attachment=1140:3_Pirate_Jack.jpg] [attachment=1141:4_Ordinary_Jack.jpg]

Just for fun, see below picture of fat Jack. This is Jack after his pirating days are over and he enjoys a simple life somewhere. [attachment=1142:5_Fat_Jack.jpg]

* We all know Jack's father is a pirate. So why would Jack be a respectable man? I think we should give no conclusive answer to that question, though we could give several conflicting theories during the course of the film. We can't seriously expect Keith Richards to play a (big) role in the film if it does get made, so I think we should not include his character.[/b]<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That is an interesting analysis of Jack and his father. I almost get the sense that his father was inserted into the movie at the last minute because someone thought it would be cool to have Keith Richards be his father. It is hard to go the respectable route for Jack early in his career if his father was a pirate, unless he never knew his father growing up like Will Turner never knew his.
And I agree with having Jack not seem as daffy earlier in his life. I have always like the idea that Jack's personality, while a bit quirky, was toned down quite a bit when he was younger. I would like to think that when he was marooned by Barbossa that that was when he noticeably became a bit off, like his personality was amplified after that.
<!--quoteo(post=213792:date=Sep 7 2007, 10:34 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Sep 7 2007, 10:34 AM) [snapback]213792[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><i><b>Events during the film</b></i>
No PotC film is complete without a swordfight and ship-to-ship battle. I would like a multiple (more than two) ship battle in a PotC film, but I don't think it would be at home in the prequel. Instead it should be a relatively small battle so that the battles become progressively larger throughout the films.

One of the main events should be Jack's sacking of Nassau without firing a single shot. It should never be obvious if Jack planned everything to go that way or that it just accidentally happened. However, it should be a major success in Jack's pirating carreer. This might be the point in the story where Jack devides to pursue his carreer of pirating. When Beckett brands Jack a pirate, it is an unfortunate series of circumstances that leads to this. Jack never did want to become a pirate, but is forces into piracy by Beckett. Only after his accidental-or-not sacking of Nassau does Jack decide to on piracy.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It would be interesting to delve into the Nassau incident. It certainly would be legendary throughout the Caribbean. And ship battles are always a plus.
<!--quoteo(post=213792:date=Sep 7 2007, 10:34 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Sep 7 2007, 10:34 AM) [snapback]213792[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><i><b>Cutler Beckett</b></i>
One thing that should be explained in the film is exactly who Cutler Beckett is and especially what he wants and why. In the two PotC sequels it is made clear that Beckett wants to eradicate all pirates and take on a trade monopoly with his EITC. We must clearly show how and why Beckett is evil.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Evil or just plain ambitious and greedy? After all, you can't call him evil if he wants to eradicate piracy. Many rulers have tried to do that since the days when Greece ruled the Mediterranean Sea. Although he is definitely the antagonist in the film.
<!--quoteo(post=213792:date=Sep 7 2007, 10:34 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Sep 7 2007, 10:34 AM) [snapback]213792[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><i><b>Supernatural Elements</b></i>
We all know there are many supernatural elements in the films. However, I think there should be none or hardly any in the prequel. Jack seems genuinely surprised in CotBP to find out there really is a curse, so Jack can't have had many dealings with the supernatural before. As the films become progressively more supernatural, it starts to become obvious that just about anything is possible to the point of having a waterfall at the end of the world and a ship-to-ship battle in a whirlpool. However, the series should start out with an almost-normal world. I think there should be some slight references to the supernatural and some events that suggest supernatural involvement, but to never show anything decidedly supernatural during the film.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Jack is suprised to see that the curse is real, but he did know of the curse and probably took it seriously. It is interesting to note that Jack's surprise at the curse being real meant that he has had no contact or even seen Barbossa or the Black Pearle since he was marooned, which leads to the obvious question of what he has been doing since then.
I agree though to tamp down on the supernatural, though it should be taken as a matter of fact since it exists so prominently in their world.
<!--quoteo(post=213792:date=Sep 7 2007, 10:34 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Sep 7 2007, 10:34 AM) [snapback]213792[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><i><b>Locations and story progress</b></i>
I would personally like to show at least the following locations in the film: England, Ivory Coast and Nassau. I don't think Singapore should be in the film. If it is already in the prequel, it is no longer new in AWE. I think Singapore and the Asian influence should be exclusive to the third film.

England is where the story starts with Jack going to the EITC headquarters. The England scenes should show some of the English countryside, London and a bustling port, then go on to showing the white cliffs of Dover as the Wicked Wench sets sail for Ivory Coast to pick up the cargo of slaves.

When Jack arrives at Ivory Coast, Africa, he sees familiar white rocks, mimicking the white cliffs of Dover. However, the closer he gets, the less familiar it all looks with all the palm trees. Here there should be some nice jungle scenes as Jack goes ashore in search of water. He comes to a native village and befriends the people living there. However, now one of the first action scenes starts with EITC soldiers attacking the village and kidnapping the people. Jack flees to his ship and doesn't really see who is actually attacking.

When Jack arrives at the port where he was to pick up the cargo, he sees all the people from the same village chained as slaves and he is to transport them to the Caribbean to work on the plantations. Naturally Jack isn't happy about this, but he tries not to show it to the EITC representatives. He takes on the cargo and the slaves themselves, who thought Jack was a friend, make it very clear that they hate Jack for first pretending to be a friend, then betraying them by taking aboard as cargo. Jack leaves port with his cargo and sets sail for the Caribbean.

During the voyage, it becomes clear that Jack is conflicted: He wants to keep his commission as captain and do as he is told, but it becomes increasingly obvious that he can't stand the work he has to do. He knows it is wrong. So he decides to do the right thing and sets the slaves free. In CotBP Norrington tells Jack: "One good deed is not enough to redeem a man of a lifetime of wickedness". Jack answers: "Though it seems enough to condemn him." Here we see how Jack's good deed actually <i>condemns</i> him <i>to</i> this lifetime of wickedness. Ah, the irony! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />

I am not yet sure of what should happen after these events. Naturally Jack must get his compass, which might be given to him by Tia Dalma in thanks of his good deed. Tia Dalma might have been among the cargo of slaves. Also Jack should somehow meet with Beckett again and be branded a pirate by Beckett. Beckett must also burn and sink the Wicked Wench. Also there should be the deal with Davy Jones and the saking of Nassau.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Lots of ideas there. You want to believe that deep down Jack is a good guy at heart, though his actions in the second movie contradict that a bit. I like the idea that Tia was among the cargo of slaves, that would explain her desire to help Jack. And the branding of Jack by Beckett should be included, as is the deal between Jones and Sparrow.
<!--quoteo(post=213792:date=Sep 7 2007, 10:34 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Sep 7 2007, 10:34 AM) [snapback]213792[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><i><b>Davy Jones</b></i>
I think Davy Jones doesn't need to be in the story very much. Backstory is never shown onscreen in the PotC films and I don't think we need to deviate from that. We can elaborate somewhat on the story of Davy Jones, but not very much. I think first Jack should simply hear the myth of Davy Jones without actually believing it. Then when he meets Tia Dalma in Ivory Coast, she also drops some slight clues on the story of Davy Jones.

I wonder how Jack's meeting with Davy Jones after losing the Wench should play out. Obviously Jack should make the agreement with Davy to raise his ship from the bottom and captain her for thirteen years in return for his soul. However, I wonder if Jack should actually take Davy seriously. If Jack knew that he would be hunted down by Davy in Dead Man's Chest, would he have made the agreement? Also if Jack would see Davy with his squid-face, wouldn't that be a reason for Jack to be somewhat suspicious of anything Davy would offer him? That is why I think Davy should not be all tentacly when he meets Jack. Perhaps at this point in the story, Davy simply looks much more like his original self, because he had not been cursed for very long yet. For example: He still looks like an ordinary man, only his left arm looks like a crab's claw.

Jack and Davy could have some conversation where Davy drops some hints on his past with Calypso and also offers Jack to raise his ship from the bottom. Notice how well Jack seems to know Davy during DMC. During the whole conversation, Davy keeps his left arm behind his back. This is all done in an apparently friendly and trustworthy fashion, so Jack agrees without really knowing what he agrees to. As Jack leaves the Dutchman, we see Davy from behind and we see his crab-claw hand. The audience now knows something sticky is going on, but Jack does not.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If Jack makes the deal with Jones then I think we cannot ignore Jones all that much. He does become integral to the story from that moment. Jack probably took Jones seriously, its just that he wants the Wench back and that desire outweighs whatever reservations he has about Jones. This can be open to debate though.
That Davy Jones maybe doesn't seem as far gone in his personal makeup is an interesting concept to explore.
<!--quoteo(post=213792:date=Sep 7 2007, 10:34 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Sep 7 2007, 10:34 AM) [snapback]213792[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><i><b>Tone</b></i>
I think the tone of the film should be light and colourful. The begin of the film should give the feeling that Jack has a great carreer in advance as captain of an EITC ship. The tone then becomes darker as Jack is forced into piracy, finds out the truth about Beckett and makes the deal with Davy Jones. However, the film should then become much lighter again with Jack starting to enjoy his freedom as a pirate.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, as I've written in other posts, I couldn't agree more with this take on the film. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />
 
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