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Proposed "Sneaky Item Trader" mod - Opinions pleas

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CatalinaThePirate

Unholy Terror,
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<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hi.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":gday" border="0" alt="hi.gif" /> all...

I have been toying with this idea for quite some time, and a topic about adding items to PotC reminded me of it...

I wanted to make a "lockpicking knife" - something you can buy (or maybe find) to boost your luck so you can open those pesky chests easier...

Of course it would not be legal to SELL something like this if you were an honest merchant... That would be like leaving the door to your house wide open when you are gone - so anyone could go in and take what they wanted...

That idea segued into making a "Sneaky Item Trader" <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/diomed.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":dio" border="0" alt="diomed.gif" /> - someone like that guy in QC who says, Pssst, c'mere... No, psst, over here... No, no, no... Over HERE! and never does anything? (LOL!) Only the trader would have items like a crowbar, lockpicking knife, stolen jewelry, swampland, fake Akellani idols, and other items of a dubious nature and value... I could make this guy pop up at random in places - so encountering him would be pure chance...

Some items he carries will obviously be not quite so desireable as the lockpicking knife (with the sharp edge you can cut your hand upon, ha!)... Some will reduce your luck or other skills... but some will be helpful, like the lockpicking knife...

So what do you think? Ideas, suggestions, comments? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" /> THANKS! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
Lady Cat,
In Morrowind I recall that they have lock picking tools, and also probes that exist to disarm traps, don't know if the coding in Morowind could be applied into POTC, but it sounds similar to what you ae trying to do here.

Then again, there's always Lady Mings "Gordion Knot" solution, "Instead of sticking your hand all the time, why don't you just shoot the lock off with your pistol? That's what they do in the movies."
Silly Lady Mings... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />
 
yea that's good one and maybe you can add with that the ability to sell stolen stuff (which will be actually classified as stolen like when you take something in the chest in some house sure the doOd living there want to kill you but the goods arent exactly classified as stolen) thats a lot of stuff <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> but i definitly like your idea.

<b>SirChristopherMings</b><br />, actually Lady Mings isnt that much silly because this could be another hard way of opening a chest, like in gothic 2 (do you know this game ?), so in this game you cant shout the lock of a chest but you can make noise if you fail to open the chest (ie breaking the lockpick) and then being in big trouble, yea generaly when you sneak into one house without the owner's permission and then you wake him up, he will not like you that much ...

So along come the idea of sneaking (walking in fact) that can be quite fun too (btw the sneak part in P!2 looks excelente !)
 
Aye,great idea catalina,especialy diabl'n de booby trapped chests,it gets expenive pay'n fer yer own Bomb Squad tew dismantle em <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blah:" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
sorry, but Gothic II rocks! so does morrowind!!


anyways, i like this idea! it would be cool if then you could scam other people.....and sometimes maybe they call the guards..? (like smuggling!) <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="cheers.gif" />: <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pirate2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p:" border="0" alt="pirate2.gif" />
 
Great idea Catalina , am fully supporting you . In other topic , what about making more of ct ships ?? I realy liked the lugger and the xebecct . So what bout you come up with frigatect , battleshipct ...etc .I will provide the paints you do the technic work looool
 
The boobytraps and the lock code all seems to be in the itemLogic.c file in the PROGRAMITEMS folder and it should be possible to add a bonus if the knife is in your inventory or equipped. A big enough bonus and the boobytraps should go off.

I think that it may be easier to make the tool equipable and add some code like this (but working as this is just off my head) in the itemLogic.c file to simulate having it equipped
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->if(CheckAttribute(PChar,"equip." LOCKPICK))  
{ int LOCK_OPEN = LOCK_OPEN+33}<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


If you intend on only certian shady characters having this for sale then it might be easier to do it all in dialog and not by using the store interface. If you try to use the store interface you will have to add some code in various files to show what can only be sold by these characters.
 
I don't mind the store interface and writing the other code stuff... I'm thinking this will be an interesting selection of strange items you just can't find in the stores or from an honest vendor...

Any suggestions on what items, everyone? How about a battleship that turns out to be a leaky tartane? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />
 
this reminds me a lil quest in a game named Divine divinity, in a tavern, you could talk to a guy who sell "rare items" like a dagger glowing when orcs are near, a "flying carpet", or a magic helm ... Well in fact this dOoD is nothing but a lyer and never want to refund you when you find out that the item isnt what it is suppose to be but instead propose you to buy another "special item" but this quest wasnt for nothing cause you were awarded with 1 point in merchand skill at this end (i love the reaction of your player who seems a bit dumb, with the dagger for exemple, he tried it and say something like : "the woods are crawling with orcs and glow as much as my left foot !" with a dumb intonation like if he didnt already find out that this was a scam) this could be rather funny in POTC, adding this vendor but maybe refund quest could be good too (the same kind)

That's it for today <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hi.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":gday" border="0" alt="hi.gif" /> all, here's the Sneaky Trader skin I've been working on between all the chaos that's going on around here about my move and apartment renovation...

<img src="http://www.ganotherapyusa.com/extras/sneaky.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

Would YOU buy a used Lugger from this man? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/no.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":no" border="0" alt="no.gif" />

I am not finished with him yet - need to fix his eyes, and do something a little different with the coat and shirt. This is the "Searcher" model...

It was all I could do to keep myself from giving him a loud checked jacket like Herb Tarlock from the old tv show WKRP in Cincinnati. I *wanted* to make him look like Stan from Monkey Island, so maybe I *should* make the jacket plaid. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

John, good idea about the refund - you can get your own back if you have your pocket picked, you should be able to knock this guy about the head for a refund if you are unhappy, too! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />
 
Don't ferget tew make his shoes white <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />
 
Give him the single eye glass . <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />
 
Aye, at was de first thought popped into me head,,must be de cookie duster <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
I was headed for giving him one of those `pencil-thin` mustaches but somehow it turned out looking all wrong and I changed it into the little one there - it looks waaaay too much like the French captain's mustache, and I want to change it... <shrug> I'll give it another go...

White shoes, LOL! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />
 
<!--`QuoteBegin-CatalinaThePirate`+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CatalinaThePirate)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ... I *wanted* to make him look like Stan from Monkey Island, so maybe I *should* make the jacket plaid. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />
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lol! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> Now yer talkin', Cat!

Complete wid toe tappin' an' arm wavin' animation an' MI music! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

<img src="http://www.milegend.com/animations/images/stan.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" />

<a href="http://www.scummbar.com/mi2/`MI1-CD`/11%20-%20Stan" target="_blank"><b>Music Here</b></a>
 
<snicker!> That music is soooo smarmy! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> I'll see what I can do with it - heh... Can't give him the sombrero or the gesticulations, tho... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> It would be funny. Heh! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />

<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /> Hmmm, I wonder what he'd look like if I gave him towngirl animation? THEY stretch and yawn... Stand on one foot with hand on hip. Lordy, that would look WEIRD!!! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />
 
The model is cool! d'you think you can make hem look like he has had a couple of unsatisfied costumers in the past, like give him a scar in the face or so... And maybe you could try to only encounter him at night! an dress 'im in black. sounds creepy!! But I defenitly like the idea!!!

Keep doin' a good job Cat!! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="cheers.gif" />: <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="cheers.gif" />:
 
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