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The shortsightedness of modders........

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hangar18

Landlubber
Why is it that every mod board I've ever been to is incredibly guilty of the following:

Lets create some great mods, but.....

1. We'll make it really really hard for anyone to ever find out what they actually do;
2. We'll not supply much in the way of instructions as to how to get the mods to work; and
3. When you ask a question that requires a DETAILED answer, we'll give something short and sweet that skips out many steps in the instalation process and also is preferably ambiguous.

Now I've only just registered on this board and can't say too much about 2 and 3 but the frustrations from my first point have prompted me to write this topic. Don't get me wrong, I am grateful to the modders who take time to improve games for other peoples benefit but come on - let us know how it works and how to use it. Otherwise you've wasted your time. Now can anyone tell me what mod does what. Lets start with the main mods and what they do. I don't care about the small mods that change say 1 tiny aspect of the game.

Thanks for anyone who has listened to my whinge and special thanks to anyone who can help me out.
 
'Sall right, matey! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" /> Welcome tew Pirates Ahoy, hanger18, an' allow ol' Fred Bob tew shout ye a rum or two! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" /> Ye be in luck, de follerin' be link tew de Readme fer de Build 11 mod package (or "the main mods" as ye sayed):

<a href="http://forum.piratesahoy.net/ftopic2378.php" target="_blank">http://forum.piratesahoy.net/ftopic2378.php</a>

When ye do download Build 11, de Installer also be givin' ye a chance tew read de documentation befer goin' ahead an' installin'! Have fun an' onct agin, welcome tew PA! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pirate_plain.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p3" border="0" alt="pirate_plain.gif" />
 
Thanks. I take it this Build 11 mod is the main one. There was another mod in the combo section whose links don't work but I guess build 11 is the best one anyway and the only 1 I should worry about. Is this true?
 
Yse, that is the only you should worry about. Sure, that are others, but those are usually still in development you can find instructions for thos mods usually in threads they come out of. Once a large group of new mods, features, and fixes are collected, a new build is compiled. We are currently collecting mods for Build 12.

Like Fred_bob said, that page should give you the overall answers you need. If you aren't clear on an area shout out something and we'll come running.

I recognize the truth in what you say about most modding communities. All I can say is that one is different. For the most part everyone is very friendly and very willing to answer your question. If they can't, someone who can usually comes along quickly.

In regards to your frustrations about people not saying what a mod really does... well all I can say about that is that this forum doesn't really function as a mod instruction forum... really, its more like a place where people who want to mod the game get together to go over ideas, pass each other help when they are stuck, and more often than not, simply vocie their gripes about what is wrong about the game, and what could be better.

A lot of us have been working with this forum for a long time. Myself, I've been checking it daily for over a year. In that time, a lot of us have gotten to understand what modding the game is like, and what form it needs to take. So, when we in our threads discuss something... it may seem a little foreign at first (the language the programmers use is very technical) but you begin to get a hang of it. If you stick around I think you'll begin to see what I mean.

However, you also need to realize that with most games the modders aren't necessarily making the mod for the other players. That is a huge part of it, but loyalty to a game's fan base is not the driving passion. The source for it all has to be the desire to mod. For one thing, I haven't actually played the game for any real length of time for ages. Not in 6 months at least. And I still do my darndest to make mods and get new features in the game...and then release them for others to play, but playing the game isn't the end goal for me. The process and the journey of creation is what attracts me and many a modder on this forum.

That all being said, I really recommend that you download build 11 to see what changes have been accomplished. If you even remotely enjoyed the game you will be struck by the build.
 
Aye, Build 11 be most bang fer yer buck thar, matey! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="8)" border="0" alt="cool.gif" />
 
Thanks JMV575! and thanks for taking the time to explain all that you have. I'm now a happier camper and looking forward to trying out this build mod. I noticed there were 3 different files called Build11 on the download page. I assume these are just mirror copies and all I need to do is download and install 1 of them.
 
I'll check. Its been some time since I actually downloaded it. I would assume so. As I remember it was fairly well documented. I will check too though.
 
You are correct. They are mirrors. Enjoy, and be sure to check back here for updates. We've extended the deadline for new mods another two weeks, after that period we will begin the compilation period for build 12 to make sure they all work together. By all means, stick around though and tell us all what you think of the build. Even better, try your own hand at the modding business.
 
Hangar 18,

Welcome to the site! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />

Here's something that might address some of your concerns: this is a link for a thread, near the top of this forum, that was started by Verruckt, that is a collection of tutorials on modding POTC:

<a href="http://forum.piratesahoy.net/ftopic1561.php" target="_blank">http://forum.piratesahoy.net/ftopic1561.php</a>

Verruckt, Schefnow, Couch Captain Charles and other modders have set up these tutorials to help people gain an understanding of how to go about creating mods for the game.

JMV 575 and Fred Bob are both right when they say there are a lot of friendly, patient, and very knowledgeable modders who frequent this site and are always willing to help people with the mods that they are attempting.

Notwithstanding this, there is certainly an element of frustration involved in any modding endeavour.... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" />

At least here, there's always someone who will try to help you out. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hi.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":gday" border="0" alt="hi.gif" /> <b>hangar18, </b>and welcome aboard! Yep, we're a friendly buncha pirates, here. We'll help you if you get stuck on something and we'll be interested if you wish to share your experiences or even to gripe. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" />

Hope you enjoy your stay here, and make sure you come back often!

And have a couple on me... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/beer2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":beer" border="0" alt="beer2.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />
 
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