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What happened with this game?

Rad

Rad

Privateer
This night I tried to play game with Build 12.1 + Modpack( I think with the newest verion). And I must ask you. What did you do with this game? It seems to me the longer I play it the strange and weird it seems to me, Pieter. First what I noticed was that every time when I draw my sabre, all the game gets stuck for about 2 second and the same happens when I want to hide the weapon. It impresses very unnaturally. It seems to me it is caused probably by this new Maximus´s interface. I told you Pieter that this new interface slows down the game. And every time some list of executing appears on the screen which is for nothing, rather only for disturbing. Further thing is that I can´t land with my ship. I bought some smuggling cargo at Oxbay and wanted to sell it to smugglers at Falaise de Fleur. But I couldn´t land with my ship at Octopus Bay in any case even though any ship was nearby. Because of that the game is practically unplayable for me. The next thing is that I was invaded by two hostile ships and although I don´t have any experiences in this my new game yet both the ships surrendered to me, which is very strange. There is too much ships everywhere at the coast. And you don´t have any tranquility any time that every beginner badly needs in the game so as he could trade and slowly improve one´s experiences. Furtherome when I approach the shore and want to land my ship very often heads directly into the shore with high speed and in short distance form it and I can do nothing, only look at my ships as happens broken. So I put this game away and I don´t know whether I ever will return to it. And what is the most incomprehensible for me is that all those unpleasant and boring bugs and bad settings are so obvious that you wasn´t able even after so long time made the game somehow acceptably playable. It is one extreme after another. And I think this bad things are caused by Modpack because when I played only Builds such annoying bugs never appeared in my game. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsdown.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":2dn" border="0" alt="thumbsdown.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" />
 
I know there are several very obvious and annoying bugs, yes. And I would fix them all if only I could. Unfortunately, all people capable of actually fixing complicated bugs are busy with real life. What modpack release are you using? In the most recent version, for all I know, you should be able to land. And the amount of ships on the sea have not been changed since Build 12. But you can set the amount of ships lower in BuildSettings.h . The same goes for the chance of ships surrendering to you. You can set the chance even to 0, so no ship will surrender anymore.
I don't know why the game slows down when you draw/sheath your sword. I have never experienced any such problems.

I am sorry that you are getting so frustrated to the game. If a regular player is already getting so frustrated, can you imagine how frustrated a modder can become if he wants to fix a bug but doesn't know how to? You can be certain that we will keep to try and fix the bugs. And once they're fixed, it will be released as a proper-working and stable update to the Build. I suppose you should just stick to Build 12 until the modpack is working properly. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
Thanks Pieter for your answer. If you can, try please the new game, buy some smuggling cargo and try to land at Octopus Bay at Falaise de Fleur with the original settings, whether you will be able to land there or somewhere. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" />
 
I will try to land at Octopus Bay. If it doesn't work, I'll try to see if I can fix it. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />
 
I have just succesfully landed at Octopus Bay. I wasn't doing a smuggler's quest at the moment, but I <i>was</i> able to land there.
 
I apologize to you, maybe my critique was too hard. If only I could land at shore! This is the stumbling block in my game just now. I will be glad if you could help me what happens here now. One new thing that I like here is the boat with the crew. It looks nice. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" />
 
Did you start the new game? You should start completely new game and only then try it. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
I started a new game, yes. I had just completely reinstalled the game, then started a new game. Then I sailed from Oxbay straight to Octopus Bay and landed there. Beats me why you're having trouble. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/piratesing.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shock" border="0" alt="piratesing.gif" />
 
BTW: When was the last time you made a clean install? Maybe you should make a clean install again, then install the full modpack download from my website on top? With a bit of luck, that'll get rid of some of them annoying errors? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
It is complete new installation. I think I know what cause it. It is too much ships by the shore everywhere and my ship can´t get into the needed quiet and distance from any of them for the landing because all the time some pirate or French ships is nerby. I think it shouldn´t be modded this way. If you would give me your e-mail I would sent you my save I you could try to play it my concrete save and case without any re-settings if you manage land with my ship. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" />
 
My e-mail is in my profile: <a href="mailto:pieter_boelen@planet.nl">pieter_boelen@planet.nl</a>. If you indeed can't land because there are enemy ships too near you, but you don't see them in sight, maybe you could fix it by setting MIN_ENEMY_DISTANCE_TO_DISABLE_MAP_ENTER and/or MIN_ENEMY_DISTANCE_TO_DISABLE_ENTER_2_LOCATION in BuildSettings.h lower. I believe Petros once encountered a similar bug, but that was after the default values were increased, so we turned it back to default again. It caused a bug where you couldn't land even if the enemy ship is on the other side of the island (this happened with islands that are not wide). If these values are not 500, then that would explain why you're having trouble. In that case, set them to 500 again. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />
Hope this does some good. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />
 
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I just remembered what problem this might be: The game reinitializes every time you press the "E" key. This is what might happen if you don't reset the controls to default. Please go to the controls screen and reset the controls to default. Then set the controls to your preferred settings. With a bit of luck, the game won't slow down anymore when you draw/sheath your sword then! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" />
I hope this will help fix the bug. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/doff.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":doff" border="0" alt="doff.gif" />
 
Anyway, I sent you my save. Please, try it and let me know. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" />
 
I fear I don´t understand you what do you mean by this keys settings. What is "rame" and I don´t have active any E key. And it isn´t so easy to adjust all the keys anew. It seems to my I am too lazy to do it anew just now. It was only by night that I did it. Please, explain once again the idea of that because I don´t understand it. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
"rame" is a typo. It should've said "game". Anyway: If you don't reset the keys to default, the key controls are messed up and the keys do things that they shouldn't and don't do things that they should. To solve those key-bugs, reset the controls to default in the options menu. If you don't do that, weird things will happen, such as the list of executing appearing on the screen when you draw/sheath your sword. Resetting the controls should fix it.
If you usually have customized your key controls, you will need to set them again. But it's better to have to set them again than to keep stuck with messed up controls.

Also please check the MIN_ENEMY_DISTANCE_TO_DISABLE_MAP_ENTER and MIN_ENEMY_DISTANCE_TO_DISABLE_ENTER_2_LOCATION in BuildSettings.h. Are they set to 500 or something else? If they are set to something else than 500, set them to 500.
 
<!--QuoteBegin-Rad+Oct 2 2005, 03:18 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rad @ Oct 2 2005, 03:18 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Spoiler.
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What's that supposed to mean? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
Nothing. I sent this my last post twice and as you know the post can´t be deleted completly here.
 
Ah. That's ok then. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />

Anyway: I have received your savegame and loaded it up. I replied to your e-mail as well. But I didn't find anything wrong. I loaded it, reset the controls to default, reinitialized the game and everything seemed to work quite fine. I hope that if you do the same, it will work for you as well... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
There were the settings 1000 meters in both case. What "expert" did that again this way ?! You know Pieter, I think that after such long modding and testing there should be some common sense in setting this game originally somehow good and proportionally, but it isn´t. Sometimes it seems to as it would be almost some sabotage of work of anybody´s else or some bad will do things well... I wouldn´t talk this way but it repeats again and again and furthermore completely uselessly. A common player after he will start this game with such bad adjusting will abandon the game sooner then he will get into it. And further thing. It seems to me the aiming cursor appears only on a very, very short time now and almost with not any horizontal angel so that you can aim only very short time. Who re-adjusted it so unfavourably again? Iam really tired. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" />
 
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