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NOT about "Atlantis: The Lost Empire"

Pieter Boelen

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Is it allowed to share something here that is as unrelated to this glorious film as it is possible to be?

Today an old colleague of mine shared a tiny bit of something she experienced and it is disturbing beyond any and all reason.

This happened years ago; and a quarter planet away. But I was within a few hundred metres of it happening and I never even knew. There was nothing I could've done, as I was in isolation at the time. There were 2000 other people nearby though and none of them were any help either.

When something truly disturbing happens, there needs to be an assigned safe person available to be able to share this with. But this particular victim WAS the "assigned safe person".

I have only the barest amount of details; and even just that is enough to put me off-balance even more than I already was before. When I leave myself to my own feelings, I cannot help but imagining myself in her place. And it is TERRIFYING!!
BEYOND terrifying, actually.
It's just plain WRONG!
And evil.
Pure nasty evil.

I am not okay...
I need something safe.
Something comfortable.
Something well and truly GOOD.
To compensate.
And hopefully, somehow, manage to get back to *myself*.

And so I turn to my dear "Atlantis: The Lost Empire".
That film means the world to me.
And this world is well and truly a better place thanks to its existence.
 
I don't know what happened, but from what you've said it sounds like it really was awful.
Especially when you realize that it happened to the one who actually helped with such stuff.

As for returning to Atlantis, I do recommend you do.
I watched/played various stuff that I used to when I was younger, and it was quite uplifting.
(For me it was Avatar: The Last Airbender, and it's spiritual successor The Dragon Prince. I am going to check out Atlantis once I have the time.)
 
I don't know what happened, but from what you've said it sounds like it really was awful.
Especially when you realize that it happened to the one who actually helped with such stuff.
I'm hoping eventually she will be able to share more about it.
Ideally in person, without me potentially warping her message.
She deserves better than that.

As for returning to Atlantis, I do recommend you do.
Do what?
Watch it?
I already did; yesterday.
It did indeed really help me.
It took me most of the night to get through the 1:30h long movie; but once I finally finished, I finally managed to actually sleep for an hour of 5-6.
That's quite something!
Considering this past week, occasionally I end up being awake for 24+ hours straight, WANTING to sleep (naturally), but virtually unable to do so.

I watched/played various stuff that I used to when I was younger, and it was quite uplifting.
It is.
It really is.

For me it was Avatar: The Last Airbender, and it's spiritual successor The Dragon Prince.
Neither of those means anything to me; on an emotional level.
Maybe one day. But that day is not today. And it will not be tomorrow.

But it is good to have things like that.
And I am glad that you have them too.
Such treasures are valuable beyond mere silver and gold.
 
I'm hoping eventually she will be able to share more about it.
Ideally in person, without me potentially warping her message.
She deserves better than that.
Very true.
You don't need to do it on purpose, so it is better this way.

Do what?
Watch it?
I already did; yesterday.
It did indeed really help me.
It took me most of the night to get through the 1:30h long movie; but once I finally finished, I finally managed to actually sleep for an hour of 5-6.
That's quite something!
Considering this past week, occasionally I end up being awake for 24+ hours straight, WANTING to sleep (naturally), but virtually unable to do so.
Perhaps you should look into that.
I don't think that this is healthy on the long run.
Once or twice fine. But not for a whole week.
I am happy to hear that the movie helped.

Neither of those means anything to me; on an emotional level.
Maybe one day. But that day is not today. And it will not be tomorrow.
No need to rush things. There may come the time when you will be ready for it.
When? I don't know, but you will know by then.

But it is good to have things like that.
And I am glad that you have them too.
Such treasures are valuable beyond mere silver and gold.
They are very valuable indeed.
Bringing you back to a time when things were simpler. :)
They remind you that things will probably get a bit better at on point.
 
Perhaps you should look into that.
I don't think that this is healthy on the long run.
Once or twice fine. But not for a whole week.
Work in progress.
Now I sleep again.
But I've been feeling "dizzy" whenever moving for a week straight now.
And the professionals don't know much other than to "just wait and hope for it to pass".

They are very valuable indeed.
Bringing you back to a time when things were simpler. :)
They remind you that things will probably get a bit better at on point.
And now they remind me of the polar opposite. Wheee!!! :dance

That was sarcastic...
 
Work in progress.
Now I sleep again.
But I've been feeling "dizzy" whenever moving for a week straight now.
And the professionals don't know much other than to "just wait and hope for it to pass".
It's a start at least.
As for dizziness perhaps mental exhaustion, burnout?
Mental health can affect physical health.

@Cerez should have experience with this, but she hasn't been around for a while.
So I would say try to relax? Take care of yourself both physically and mentally?
Only thing that comes to mind.
 
For sure. Been having that one for years.
And it seems to be back again to some extent.
ALMOST had me think I might've pulled through, but nooooo....

Mental health can affect physical health.
Zero doubts there.

So I would say try to relax?
Odd thing; this dizziness thing seems to correlate with nothing I do.
It's there all day; whether I'm really active or do barely anything.

On the other hand, I HAVE been getting also this odd burning sensation up there again.
That one I know DOES decrease if I just go and lie down for 30-6o mins or so.

Take care of yourself both physically and mentally?
Am admittedly famously terrible at that.

Physically I can keep myself alive.
Mentally though...? I'm very good at turning all my pain, sadness and whatever else inwards.
Not like I've got anywhere else to send it.
 
For sure. Been having that one for years.
And it seems to be back again to some extent.
ALMOST had me think I might've pulled through, but nooooo....
Such things are like that.
We don't have unlimited energy, so if we push for too long it's a risk.

Odd thing; this dizziness thing seems to correlate with nothing I do.
It's there all day; whether I'm really active or do barely anything.

On the other hand, I HAVE been getting also this odd burning sensation up there again.
That one I know DOES decrease if I just go and lie down for 30-6o mins or so.
Then perhaps consistent rest would help.
And possibly more self-care.

The more I think about it the more I think that Cerez could have really good advice on this.

Am admittedly famously terrible at that.

Physically I can keep myself alive.
Mentally though...? I'm very good at turning all my pain, sadness and whatever else inwards.
Not like I've got anywhere else to send it.
You have this forum here.
Probably more is needed but it is a start.
 
Such things are like that.
We don't have unlimited energy, so if we push for too long it's a risk.
Or if you are pushed.
I started giving warnings WELL before.
One time I said "no" to my boss-of-the-time before he had even asked the question (I knew it was coming).
It got pushed through anyway, which taught me there was nothing I could say...

The more I think about it the more I think that Cerez could have really good advice on this.
She tried to give some, I believe.
But I'm useless at making good use of such good advice.

You have this forum here.
Probably more is needed but it is a start.
Every day I ask myself what is actually worthwhile.
And I never do find much of an answer.

I wished there were better futures to build towards.
But mostly everything I attempt feels like beating a dead horse instead.
 
Or if you are pushed.
I started giving warnings WELL before.
One time I said "no" to my boss-of-the-time before he had even asked the question (I knew it was coming).
It got pushed through anyway, which taught me there was nothing I could say...
Being pushed is the same, or even worse indeed.
If this goes on I would continue to mention it to them.
Even if it isn't listened at once it should make them consider it eventually.
If not out of decency, then because it's in their interests.

She tried to give some, I believe.
But I'm useless at making good use of such good advice.
Practice makes better. Little by little it may help.

Every day I ask myself what is actually worthwhile.
And I never do find much of an answer.

I wished there were better futures to build towards.
But mostly everything I attempt feels like beating a dead horse instead.
Well beating a dead horse can also be beneficial, you get practice at beating.

As for sharing this, it should help.
My understanding is that part of the problem is that you have been keeping it inside you.
 
Not nice then.
And looking back at it my previous thinking doesn't sound that nice too, poor horse.

Still in my opinion trying for something better is essential.
 
Still in my opinion trying for something better is essential.
Essential for what?
It seems this world is specifically tailored to keeping things as they are.
Anyone ruffling feathers and threatening the 'status quo' is... well... a threat.
And gets treated as such.

Ideally in a really underhanded subversive way, so nobody else sees it and acknowledges it,
effectively cutting the "threat" off from anyone and everyone.

I KNOW what happened to me.
If I try to voice anything about it though, the people supposedly closest to me get very weirdly evasive.
Makes me feel thoroughly invalidated; as if my experiences might as well not exist at all.

This is one of the reasons I HATE the "autism" label.
It is a PITCH-PERFECT way of undermining people.
Gets them stuck in a circus of nonsense.
Never to be a threat again.
 
Essential for what?
Improvement.
As we have seen no way to boost PA! without trying, for example.

It seems this world is specifically tailored to keeping things as they are.
Anyone ruffling feathers and threatening the 'status quo' is... well... a threat.
And gets treated as such.

Ideally in a really underhanded subversive way, so nobody else sees it and acknowledges it,
effectively cutting the "threat" off from anyone and everyone.

I KNOW what happened to me.
If I try to voice anything about it though, the people supposedly closest to me get very weirdly evasive.
Makes me feel thoroughly invalidated; as if my experiences might as well not exist at all.
Indeed. Looking at how the world is I can see where you are coming from.
But as I see it they have the problem not you. Meaning that you are in the right to try and improve despite them not helping.
I am sure it's not only you and me who want you to improve and be happy. Then again what do I know?
In any case even if it's only the two of us I still you should try to get to a better place. And no this wouldn't make you selfish.

This is one of the reasons I HATE the "autism" label.
It is a PITCH-PERFECT way of undermining people.
Gets them stuck in a circus of nonsense.
Never to be a threat again.
I don't believe the problem is in the label, though probably you also don't; hence why "autism".
The problem is on how the general public thinks about it.
Many people have some ideas about what it is, but it is far from the truth for most.
Which can indeed be harmful, very much in fact. Harmful for those who actually are autistic and those who aren't.
 
Improvement.
What kind of improvement would you imagine?

As we have seen no way to boost PA! without trying, for example.
There are indeed no easy solutions, it seems.
We could throw a full 10.000 euro at it probably and STILL barely notice an effect.

But as I see it they have the problem not you.
They also have the power to twist things around and turn it into my problem.
Or, more accurate, turning me into a problem.

Indeed. Looking at how the world is I can see where you are coming from.
But as I see it they have the problem not you. Meaning that you are in the right to try and improve despite them not helping.
I am sure it's not only you and me who want you to improve and be happy. Then again what do I know?
In any case even if it's only the two of us I still you should try to get to a better place. And no this wouldn't make you selfish.
No, either I can want good things for everyone (=stupid) or I can want good things for me (=selfish).
I believe I'm mostly stupid then...

I don't believe the problem is in the label, though probably you also don't; hence why "autism".
The problem is on how the general public thinks about it.
Many people have some ideas about what it is, but it is far from the truth for most.
Which can indeed be harmful, very much in fact. Harmful for those who actually are autistic and those who aren't.
Worse than what the general public thinks about it is what the people who invent such labels think about it in the first place.
What it makes so-labeled people think (of) themselves.

It's less a "diagnosis" or a "label" and more a verdict.
It locks a self-fulling prophecy in place.

Only psychiatrists are allowed to set a diagnosis; according to an international (read: American) standard (the DSM; version V by now).
And yet it is possible to get such a diagnosis without ever talking to the responsible psychiatrist.
It is possible to get such a verdict after an "investigation" done by a trainee, "supervised" by a psychologist.
A trainee who is blatantly unfamiliar with the contents of the criteria required; and the potential alternate diagnoses.
(And who later "forgets" about the whole "privacy" thing too.)

Good going, that is!
Really.

And here we are talking about "right" and "wrong".
Where somebody "wrong" like me would say THIS is BLATANTLY WRONG!
But it is "the established way of doing things".
It is "generally accepted".
Nobody bats an eye at any of this.

And that sends a message.
A very, very powerful message.
One of ultimate harm.
 
What kind of improvement would you imagine?
To feel well, that's what I mean.
From what I know lately you are quite stressed, to the point it affects you physically as well as emotionally.

There are indeed no easy solutions, it seems.
We could throw a full 10.000 euro at it probably and STILL barely notice an effect.
Not before we grow more.
And if we do see an effect then it wouldn't be very efficient I think.

No, either I can want good things for everyone (=stupid) or I can want good things for me (=selfish).
I believe I'm mostly stupid then...
The world is a logical place? Nah, not most of the times.
In my opinion if everyone includes you it's fine.
Oh wait too logical. :modding

Worse than what the general public thinks about it is what the people who invent such labels think about it in the first place.
What it makes so-labeled people think (of) themselves.

It's less a "diagnosis" or a "label" and more a verdict.
It locks a self-fulling prophecy in place.
I counted them in the general public too.
While I believe neurodiversity is a real thing, I have to agree that even the "knowledgeable" people many times have a very wrong outlook on it.
Normally getting diagnosed should only help you and not make things harder.
Reality doesn't follow with this though.

Only psychiatrists are allowed to set a diagnosis; according to an international (read: American) standard (the DSM; version V by now).
And yet it is possible to get such a diagnosis without ever talking to the responsible psychiatrist.
It is possible to get such a verdict after an "investigation" done by a trainee, "supervised" by a psychologist.
A trainee who is blatantly unfamiliar with the contents of the criteria required; and the potential alternate diagnoses.
(And who later "forgets" about the whole "privacy" thing too.)

Good going, that is!
Really.

And here we are talking about "right" and "wrong".
Where somebody "wrong" like me would say THIS is BLATANTLY WRONG!
But it is "the established way of doing things".
It is "generally accepted".
Nobody bats an eye at any of this.

And that sends a message.
A very, very powerful message.
One of ultimate harm.
Ah, now I get the full picture.
I wished I could say it was better than what I had imagined, but no it worse by a long-shot.
I really despise what happened to you.
I get that the trainee was probably getting practice, but this doesn't mean you should see the actual psychiatrist!
Even if it wasn't the standard you can't have such a diagnosis done only by someone in training.
It would be like putting a learner driver have his test by driving an ambulance... With an actual patient inside.
 
To feel well, that's what I mean.
From what I know lately you are quite stressed, to the point it affects you physically as well as emotionally.
I thought we were talking of improvement for PA!

As for me personally, I'm not sure what counts as "lately" for you.
For me, it's been a good couple of years by now.
And I'm literally sick and tired of it.

Not before we grow more.
And if we do see an effect then it wouldn't be very efficient I think.
Really doesn't look like it.
Interesting experiment.
Results seem pretty conclusive.

The world is a logical place? Nah, not most of the times.
In my opinion if everyone includes you it's fine.
Oh wait too logical. :modding
"Everyone includes you"?
What do you mean...?

I counted them in the general public too.
While I believe neurodiversity is a real thing, I have to agree that even the "knowledgeable" people many times have a very wrong outlook on it.
Normally getting diagnosed should only help you and not make things harder.
Reality doesn't follow with this though.
"Neurodiversity" is absolutely a thing. A very confusing thing.
A thing that is misunderstood more often than people get it actually right (or so goes my very very VERY strong suspicion).

Proof from literally yesterday:
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Source: https://www.facebook.com/groups/172...f_t=groups_admin_to_member_feedback&ref=notif

Oh really? THAT is "toxic", is it?
It's a bloody statement of fact is what it is!
And the RESULT OF THAT FACT is what is toxic!!

I said nothing about other people in that message.
Nothing.

The final message I posted there before going to bed was literally me clearly stating it was NOT my place to judge other people.
Again I only spoke of myself and my own experiences.
And I mentioned that whole books have been written about my point being definitely more common than "just me".
Which is, again, a statement of fact.
Proof right here: https://www.amazon.com/Misdiagnosis-Diagnoses-Gifted-Children-Adults/dp/1935067435

And here an example article on the thing:
What If the Diagnosis of Autism Is Wrong?
Plus a Dutch one I read, which explains the hurtful danger of such a misdiagnosis:
Misdiagnoses en Hoogbegaafdheid - Gifted People

If "attempting to address that this DOES actually do a lot of damage" is considered "toxic",
I'd say that's clearly proof that there is a VERY real world problem here indeed.
Not only IS it a problem... but its mere existence is being censored too.

I get that the trainee was probably getting practice, but this doesn't mean you should see the actual psychiatrist!
Even if it wasn't the standard you can't have such a diagnosis done only by someone in training.
It would be like putting a learner driver have his test by driving an ambulance... With an actual patient inside.
"Funny" story.
Back in 2o13, I broke my hip. In 5 places at the same time. By falling 1m down the stairs.
Not the nicest thing to happen, you might say. It's usually something that happens to old people.
It happened to me. When I tell people, they laugh in my face.

Better yet: It was SUCH a complex fracture, I had to wait half a week before a surgeon with sufficient knowledge and experience was available.
Without me ever being asked though, turns out the actual surgery was performed by someone in training, under the supervision of that experienced surgeon.
Later, much later, they told me the metal pins used had been too long and that is probably what is permanently messing up the sinews in my upper-left leg.
They suggested I undergo surgery again to get this fixed.

You know what? I HATE SURGERY! It terrifies me thoroughly.
It's a disturbing inconvenience I have due to them not doing the best job; but only an inconvenience all the same.
And what am I now? A human-shaped guinea pig or something??

I do know how to get into the most wonderful situations, don't I?
You know what? I'm probably responsible for all of this myself!
Because I am magic and can influence everything on Planet Earth.
(Or so the "logic" of many people seems to go... :shock )
 
I thought we were talking of improvement for PA!
And I thought about both, anyway carrying on.

As for me personally, I'm not sure what counts as "lately" for you.
For me, it's been a good couple of years by now.
And I'm literally sick and tired of it.
I have the impression that it is getting worse these last few months.
But I could be wrong, you are the one going through it.

"Everyone includes you"?
What do you mean...?
By definition everyone, includes yourself. You can't not think about you sometimes.
Some take this as selfish, but fact is you can't help others if you become a wreck yourself.
Also taking this as selfish mean that you think in absolutes.

"Neurodiversity" is absolutely a thing. A very confusing thing.
A thing that is misunderstood more often than people get it actually right (or so goes my very very VERY strong suspicion).

Proof from literally yesterday:
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Source: https://www.facebook.com/groups/172...f_t=groups_admin_to_member_feedback&ref=notif

Oh really? THAT is "toxic", is it?
It's a bloody statement of fact is what it is!
And the RESULT OF THAT FACT is what is toxic!!

I said nothing about other people in that message.
Nothing.

The final message I posted there before going to bed was literally me clearly stating it was NOT my place to judge other people.
Again I only spoke of myself and my own experiences.
And I mentioned that whole books have been written about my point being definitely more common than "just me".
Which is, again, a statement of fact.
It can happen for sure.
All I know I could actually have something else than dyslexia.
I wouldn't officially check it though. I don't really enjoy the process of such things.
Basically because the whole process is flawed far as I know.
Some know they are different but need to be tested multiple times to truly verify it, and some are falsely diagnosed.
Also some may be in denial, but it's better to test them again by a different person to be surer.

I am honestly not sure on this book.
From the description I get that it means you can either be gifted or have a disorder, not both.
Which is blatantly wrong if that's the case. Neurodiversity is doesn't negate giftedness.

However I won't judge the book as I have not read it, nor do I know anything about the author.
I could be wrong and just misunderstood it.

And here an example article on the thing:
What If the Diagnosis of Autism Is Wrong?
Plus a Dutch one I read, which explains the hurtful danger of such a misdiagnosis:
Misdiagnoses en Hoogbegaafdheid - Gifted People
I haven't read the Dutch one yet, but I will later.
As for the English one, I agree with it.
Someone may seem "not normal", but also "normal". Depending on various factors.
It doesn't work like a box let's say. People aren't like that.
It works more like a rainbow, where colors don't suddenly change but gradually.
This means that you can show some symptoms but fall under a different category, or if you indeed are autistic (insert other diagnosis as well), you don't have to be the stereotype of it.
We people are many! We can't all neatly fit into categories. This can lead to mistakes.

If "attempting to address that this DOES actually do a lot of damage" is considered "toxic",
I'd say that's clearly proof that there is a VERY real world problem here indeed.
Not only IS it a problem... but its mere existence is being censored too.
Won't be the first one, many problems are censored. Even if we know they happened, and that you can cover them in a respectful manner.

"Funny" story.
Back in 2o13, I broke my hip. In 5 places at the same time. By falling 1m down the stairs.
Not the nicest thing to happen, you might say. It's usually something that happens to old people.
It happened to me. When I tell people, they laugh in my face.
Not the reaction I would hope for.
This can happen to everyone, if you are unlucky enough.

In fact it almost happened to me in the past.
It was in elementary we were done with P.E. and we were going down the stairs.
I misstepped and went rolling down, literally rolling.
However I don't remember getting any injuries.

Better yet: It was SUCH a complex fracture, I had to wait half a week before a surgeon with sufficient knowledge and experience was available.
Without me ever being asked though, turns out the actual surgery was performed by someone in training, under the supervision of that experienced surgeon.
Later, much later, they told me the metal pins used had been too long and that is probably what is permanently messing up the sinews in my upper-left leg.
They suggested I undergo surgery again to get this fixed.
How do you even manage to do not get the right thing?!
Don't they double check? And why trainees operate this way?
I guess it's for practice, but can't we make some alternative? Technology is quite good nowadays.

You know what? I HATE SURGERY! It terrifies me thoroughly.
It's a disturbing inconvenience I have due to them not doing the best job; but only an inconvenience all the same.
And what am I now? A human-shaped guinea pig or something??

I do know how to get into the most wonderful situations, don't I?
You know what? I'm probably responsible for all of this myself!
Because I am magic and can influence everything on Planet Earth.
(Or so the "logic" of many people seems to go... :shock )
In cases like what happened to you having surgery is a must.
However I can get your hate towards them knowing that.
I can't tell you if you should do it or not, as this is far from my knowledge.
But it may be something to think about.
 
I have the impression that it is getting worse these last few months.
But I could be wrong, you are the one going through it.
It's not been getting that much better, that is true.
And I AM definitely getting more and more fed up with it.

By definition everyone, includes yourself. You can't not think about you sometimes.
Some take this as selfish, but fact is you can't help others if you become a wreck yourself.
Also taking this as selfish mean that you think in absolutes.
Ah, gotcha! Re-reading your phrase, I understand now what you mean.
For some reason, I was completely not grasping the meaning this morning. :facepalm

Basically because the whole process is flawed far as I know.
Thoroughly so.

I am honestly not sure on this book.
From the description I get that it means you can either be gifted or have a disorder, not both.
Which is blatantly wrong if that's the case. Neurodiversity is doesn't negate giftedness.
I'm not sure where you got the impression that it is an OR situation.
"Giftedness" is literally a part of neurodiversity; so if that's what you are, then neurodiverse you are too.
And in the title, "dual diagnosis" refers to having both "giftedness" AND a disorder.
Because of course they CAN co-occur. They just don't necessarily have to.

Someone may seem "not normal", but also "normal". Depending on various factors.
Correct.
Environment matters.
A lot.

Which a diagnosis of "autism" completely and utterly ignores.
And that flips the tables of reality, turning an actual "outside" problem into a perceived "inside" one.

Won't be the first one, many problems are censored. Even if we know they happened, and that you can cover them in a respectful manner.
Won't be the first one; won't be the last.
It seems to take a pirate to even bother voicing certain problems at all.

Not the reaction I would hope for.
This can happen to everyone, if you are unlucky enough.
And yet... laughter is BY FAR the most common response. It happened again last Saturday.

Neurotypical empathy showing again...? :confused:

How do you even manage to do not get the right thing?!
Don't they double check? And why trainees operate this way?
I guess it's for practice, but can't we make some alternative? Technology is quite good nowadays.
Don't know what technology has to do with it here.
And it really beats me how something like this could even happen.
"The wrong length of pins" doesn't seem related to "experience" to me; it's related to "material".

In cases like what happened to you having surgery is a must.
However I can get your hate towards them knowing that.
I can't tell you if you should do it or not, as this is far from my knowledge.
But it may be something to think about.
It was a must to be able to walk again, yes.
I was running on the Ancient Greek Olympic course less than 9 months later.
Now all that's left is an annoying inconvenience.
Compared to everything else I've got going, this is really just a small thing.
A certain insistent misdiagnosis is doing FAAAR more damage.
 
I'm not sure where you got the impression that it is an OR situation.
"Giftedness" is literally a part of neurodiversity; so if that's what you are, then neurodiverse you are too.
And in the title, "dual diagnosis" refers to having both "giftedness" AND a disorder.
Because of course they CAN co-occur. They just don't necessarily have to.
Oh... Now I get it! :facepalm

Correct.
Environment matters.
A lot.

Which a diagnosis of "autism" completely and utterly ignores.
And that flips the tables of reality, turning an actual "outside" problem into a perceived "inside" one.
Perhaps it would be wise to get another opinion on this?
From a different psychiatrist, preferably one who will have that in mind.

Won't be the first one; won't be the last.
It seems to take a pirate to even bother voicing certain problems at all.
Well what can I say, we pirates are against the grain. :pirates

Don't know what technology has to do with it here.
Practice on "mannequins" or something, I am sure those are a thing.
With our current tech I think they could make something pretty close to the real deal.

And it really beats me how something like this could even happen.
"The wrong length of pins" doesn't seem related to "experience" to me; it's related to "material".
Unless if they had the right ones, but for whatever reason didn't use them.
To me it seems like a mistake I made once when cleaning the laptop I use now.
The screws fell and so I lost my organization, and so it now has these bumps on it.
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However this is a computer, not a living person! :facepalm

It was a must to be able to walk again, yes.
I was running on the Ancient Greek Olympic course less than 9 months later.
Very cool! And good to know that apart from that there aren't any other problems.
How was it by the way? I suspect you managed to saw a bit of Greece this way.

Now all that's left is an annoying inconvenience.
Compared to everything else I've got going, this is really just a small thing.
A certain insistent misdiagnosis is doing FAAAR more damage.
Indeed, plus pirates are known to have leg problems.
Geralt also has them. :aar
 
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