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BIG problem with saving Clemet after capturing Greenford!?

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SverreHofstad

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<b>After I enter Greenford (when the fort has been captured) I help Danielle fight the english guards in the street. Then she says we should go free the old man. I enter the jail and walk to the old man and THEN!,,,, he acts like the fight is still on(looking scared and protecting himself with the hands over his head) and I can't open the door or even talk to him!??? Danielle is standing by the entrance to the jail(inside) and I can't talk to her. I can't even go out from jail after I went in. No fast walk, NOTHING! What do I do???

plz help me very SOON!???</b> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_eek.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shock:" border="0" alt="icon_eek.gif" />
 
<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hi.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":gday" border="0" alt="hi.gif" />, <b>SverreHofstad, </b>and welcome aboard!

Regarding cowering Clement, you may need to go back to a previous save - and be very careful when you are fighting in the streets that you do not kill any townspeople. I believe he reacts this way if you have inadvertently killed innocent civilians...

Hope this helps! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
Ah! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/onya.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="onya.gif" />
That might be the reason. Thanx a lot for the tip and the welcome!


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My pleasure. Please do not hesitate to ask, if you get stuck, we'll be happy to help you if we can. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> Damn! It didn't work. I didn't kill anyone else but the english guys but some civilian who was fighting, died. But it was the english that killed them. And I'm still stuck at the same point. Clement is still scared like shit when I come to rescue him. What can be wrong??
I have tried to reinstall build11 and removing all of my officers cus one of them started fight Clement when I removed him inside the jail.

I really dont know what to do!? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
You took all of your officers out of the boarding party and the English soldiers killed the civilian and you still can't help Clement?

What is your reputation in the game? Perhaps you need to boost that. Are you a Horror of the Seas, or something?

What you need to do to fix that is before you go sack Greenford, go to another island and into the jungle and save a few damsels from being raped... Just keep going back and forth between areas where you find the rapists and you will eventually encounter as many of them as you need to get your reputation a boost.

HTH! (don't shoot your computer!) <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" />
 
Yes, pretty right Catalina. The soldiers kills a few civilian and I go to the jail and stupid Clement is still scared shitless. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_twisted.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":twisted:" border="0" alt="icon_twisted.gif" />
My reputation is actually Bloke, it was horror of the high seas not long before this quest but I worked it up the same way you proposed now. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/onya.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="onya.gif" />
My affairs with england is hostile now that I and Danielle broken into Silehard, can that have anything to say??? Maybe Clement is acting like an english man and therefore I'm his enemy?

NathanKell: You think that could work? I don't have access to any houses as I enter Greenford to free Clement, but I can try to do it before I start the whole fight. Luckily I have a save just before I'm off to crush Greenford Fort!

(wich I did with 1 battleship in 10min, and not even near to sink!) <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/keith.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":keith" border="0" alt="keith.gif" />

I really apreciate the help u are giving me. Thanks a lot mateys! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
I really need help to get this to work. I've tried everything!! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
Oh my god. That was great work NathanKell. Now I can continiue playing without starting a new game.
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I think we'll have to drink to this! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
WTG, Nathan!!! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/onya.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="onya.gif" /> (I wish I knew what you did to fix that!) <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />
 
My pleasure, Sverre. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
Cat: What I did was, I opened the save, and then in the console added line MoveCharacters(CharFromID(Clement), PLAYER_GROUP) (or whatever the actual syntax is) to get him to see the player as a friend. And then executed the console and resaved.
 
<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huhh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":eek:k" border="0" alt="huhh.gif" /> <Catalina reminds herself to put in that console feature when she has half a moment!> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" />
 
Ahoy Mateys <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hi.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":gday" border="0" alt="hi.gif" /> I am having the same problem that SverreHofstad had, <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> I have also captured the fort and went to the jail to free Clement and he is cowering and the door is locked, also I am locked in the prison <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> and can't get back out into Greenford, Nathan if you could work your magic for me it would be greatly appreciated <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_praise.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":bow" border="0" alt="icon_praise.gif" />
 
Sure. Install the console per the instructions on the console thread in Modding, and then put the following line in the ExecuteConsole() function:
LAi_group_MoveCharacter(CharacterFromID("researcher"), LAI_GROUP_PLAYER);
Then load your save, reset control defaults, and hit F12. Presto, friendly Clement.
 
Nathan, there should be a way to avoid this problem in the future... Perhaps add Clement to group player EARLIER, so the battle does not affect his impression of you?
 
Should I, or have you already beat me to it? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />
 
Nathan, I found something in the code - This is in quests_reaction.c - where we might add a fix for Clement -

<!--c1--><div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><!--ec1-->  case "Story_GreenfordCapturedByBlazeAndDanielle":

     Locations[FindLocation("Fake_Greenford_town")].reload.l1.name = "reload27";

     Locations[FindLocation("Fake_Greenford_town")].reload.l1.go = "Fake_Greenford_prison";

     Locations[FindLocation("Fake_Greenford_town")].reload.l1.emerge = "Reload1";

     SetCharacterShipLocation(Pchar, "Greenford_port");

     SetCharacterRelationAsOtherCharacter(GetCharacterIndex("Greenford commander"), GetMainCharacterIndex());

     SetCharacterRelation(GetCharacterIndex("Greenford commander"),GetMainCharacterIndex(),RELATION_FRIEND);

     UpdateRelations();

     LAi_QuestDelay("Story_DanielleOffersToGoSaveResearcher", 1.0);

 break;<!--c2--></div><!--ec2-->Perhaps this is where we need to put Clement (Researcher) - as FRIEND - so that he won't cower when you go to get him out of prison if something went awry during the sack of Greenford.

???

Like this?<!--c1--><div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><!--ec1-->  case "Story_GreenfordCapturedByBlazeAndDanielle":

     Locations[FindLocation("Fake_Greenford_town")].reload.l1.name = "reload27";

     Locations[FindLocation("Fake_Greenford_town")].reload.l1.go = "Fake_Greenford_prison";

     Locations[FindLocation("Fake_Greenford_town")].reload.l1.emerge = "Reload1";

     SetCharacterShipLocation(Pchar, "Greenford_port");

     SetCharacterRelationAsOtherCharacter(GetCharacterIndex("Greenford commander"), GetMainCharacterIndex());

     SetCharacterRelation(GetCharacterIndex("Greenford commander"),GetMainCharacterIndex(),RELATION_FRIEND);

     UpdateRelations();

        SetCharacterRelationAsOtherCharacter(GetCharacterIndex("Researcher"), GetMainCharacterIndex());

     SetCharacterRelation(GetCharacterIndex("Researcher"),GetMainCharacterIndex(),RELATION_FRIEND);

     UpdateRelations();

     LAi_QuestDelay("Story_DanielleOffersToGoSaveResearcher", 1.0);

 break;<!--c2--></div><!--ec2-->Would that work? Or does he need to be added to the group player, instead?

(sorry, I am not in the right area of the game yet to test this)
 
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