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Build 13 final release?

Should we make a Build 13 final release now?

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Pieter Boelen

Pieter Boelen

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Hello all,

IncredibleHat and Hook have recently been doing some very good bugfixing work on the Pre Build 13 pack, making it quite playable indeed. It is said that all quests can be finished and gamestopping bugs are hardly ever encountered anymore. This is why Hook suggested that we call his and IncredibleHat's latest update "Build 13". All bugfixes to "Build 13" would then be added to the <i>Post Build 13 Fixpack</i>, while all new content would be added to the <i>Pre Build 14 pack</i>. I reckon this is quite a good idea. We need to release a final Build 13 at some point, preferrably soon, and the game is now more playable than ever, so why not now?

There are still several things in the game that are not yet fixed. There are still things that could do with some improving for the final Build 13. Examples of these would be "cleaning up BuildSettings.h" and "changing the choose character model selection". However, these changes could be added to the <i>Post Build 13 fixpack</i>. And once these small things would be fixed, we could then call it <i>Build 13.1</i>, right?

So please give your views on this issue. If we agree that we should release a Build 13 final version now, I will try to upload the full download later this week.

Question: The Build 12.1 full download is a simple self-extracting .exe. Wouldn't it be great if we could make a better installation file for Build 13? Would anyone have any suggestions on how to do that?
 
<b>My personal suggestion:</b>
Wait until next weekend and see if we have any additional finishing fixes for Build 13 by then. Then I'll compile Build 13 over the weekend and release it next week.

These additional fixes include:
- Tutorials fixed (Pirate_KK is working on that)
- New islands finished (Pirate_KK is working on that)
- Pictures for new character model selection added (Maximus is working on that)
- BuildSettings.h cleaned up (nobody's working on that yet!)

If you know of anything that should also be fixed for the final Build 13, now is the time to say it! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" />
 
<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hi.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":gday" border="0" alt="hi.gif" /> Will the new Black Pearl be in the Build 13 or in Pre-Build 14? If it is in Build 13, it should probably have its walk file any other work to make it a fully functioning boardable ship before Build 13 is finalized, IMHO. I must say though, that Build 13 is a work of art, Kudos to all those modders who have worked so hard to making PotC the masterpiece that it is. Special kudos to Pieter for his work as modcompiler, I know everyone here will miss him when he is on his voyage! In honor of him, I named my PotC character after him. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hi.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":gday" border="0" alt="hi.gif" /> there Pieter,

I've got a game going at the moment that's updated as far as the Hook/TIH update of 28/8/06 and it's definitely the most playable the game has been for a long time. I'm about to download their latest update as well to see how that's going but from the lack of any negative feedback on the forum it sounds like it's all good. Great work there Hat and Hook. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />

Based on this, I think that Build 13 is looking pretty good for release. There maybe still a few bugs here and there but, considering the complexity of the game now, I think they're relatively minor... nothing worse than what we got with the stock game...comparitively. I think that, as long as there are no more complex mods/code added and just simple mods (if that) or bug fixes then Build 13 is ready for release as you suggest next weekend.

I'll play test some more over the next couple of days if I've got the time and see if there's any salient problems that need to be fixed. Hopefully not. If there is then I hope we can get them cleared up quickly. I was thinking I'd like to adjust the pricing of the new axes (down a little) so will try and get something to you by next weekend.

Cheers <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />

EDIT: Just saw that you've got a new update there, Pieter, so i'll download that for some testing.
 
Oviously i voted aye! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" />

But that decision was solely made on me own impatience mates! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" />

I wish to unleash my wrath on me enemies 'o old, but wait that would mean the entire world or better said the entire oceans...

So the release is nigh?!


I cannot wait lads, and a great cheers 'n salutations to the brethern that have made all this possible!

Here's to ya ye dogs 'o the seas! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/buds.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":drunk" border="0" alt="buds.gif" />
 
<!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><i><b>Suggestion:</b></i><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->

If you have any new mods that are (almost) working properly, these can be added to the Post Build 13 pack and eventually into Build 13.1 if confirmed to be working properly. New mods will not be added to Build 13 at all.

I wonder what to do with the new town models, such as the AoP Guadeloupe, AoP Tortuga, Swindler's retextured Santo Domingo and (if released) Thomas the Terror's La Havana retexture. I think these should be added to the Post Build 13 pack and eventually Build 13.1.

This way Build 13 will be a playable modpack version. Build 13.1 will be a playable modpack version with all the latest working mods added in as well.

What about we do this? Can everyone agree with this?

<!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><b>Build 13:</b><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->
To be released next week, depending slightly on how quickly Pirate_KK gets his final fixes done. I really do want those fixes into the game.

<i>Will contain:</i>
- All features that are in IncredibleHat's latest fixpack
- Any bugfixes and finishing touches that are finished before Build 13 will be released

<i>Will not contain:</i>
- ANY new features, not even my own new code that I added to yesterday's modpack update
- Kazeite's Black Pearl
- Anything else that is not a bugfix or a finishing touch

<!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><b>Post Build 13:</b><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->
To be released shortly after Build 13. This pack will keep being updated as new stuff becomes available.

<i>Will contain:</i>
- Bugfixes made after Build 13 was finished
- Finishing touches made after Build 13 was finished
- New features that are working or almost working
- Any new skins and models I can add
- New town models and reskins
- Kazeite's Black Pearl

<i>Will not contain:</i>
- Stuff that causes major trouble

<!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><b>Build 13.1:</b><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->
To be released about a month after Build 13 is released. This pack will be based on the Post Build 13 pack.

<i>Will contain:</i>
- Anything that makes Build 13 better and is confirmed to be working completely and utterly as intended
- Kazeite's Black Pearl, if finished

<i>Will not contain:</i>
- Stuff that causes trouble

<!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><b>Pre Build 14:</b><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->
This will be the Work In Progres pack for Build 14. This will be worked on once Build 13.1 is finished.
 
We have an accord! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" />
 
<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" /> Arr! I be willin' to sign dem articles!
 
<!--quoteo(post=161123:date=Sep 11 2006, 04:13 PM:name=Doober)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Doober @ Sep 11 2006, 04:13 PM) [snapback]161123[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" /> Arr! I be willin' to sign dem articles!
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If ye can write that is matey, ye should! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/buds.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":drunk" border="0" alt="buds.gif" />
 
Great work been done and good to see Build 13 is coming along , my question is :

Has the CTD problem is fixed ??
 
Sounds good to me, Pieter. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />

Cheers <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
The Ketch, Treasure Galleon, and a re-worked War Galleon should be ready for Build 13.1 I think.
 
Ahoy Pieter,

I think your suggested schedule makes a lot of sense. I will test you new code to today.
 
<!--quoteo(post=161129:date=Sep 11 2006, 04:37 PM:name=PirateSam)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(PirateSam @ Sep 11 2006, 04:37 PM) [snapback]161129[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
Has the CTD problem is fixed ??
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The major CTDs are fixed. There is still the occasional crash, but we can't really seem to figure out why these occur.

<!--quoteo(post=161150:date=Sep 11 2006, 06:27 PM:name=Petros)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Petros @ Sep 11 2006, 06:27 PM) [snapback]161150[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
The Ketch, Treasure Galleon, and a re-worked War Galleon should be ready for Build 13.1 I think.
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I will be very happy indeed to add them into Build 13.1. They will make very fine additions indeed. Perhaps the Ketch could even be made into a starting ship option. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=161156:date=Sep 11 2006, 07:13 PM:name=Jason)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jason @ Sep 11 2006, 07:13 PM) [snapback]161156[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
I will test you new code to today.
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That is great! Keep in mind that yesterday's release is more like a Post Build 13 pack and not the final Build 13 by any means. The final Build 13 will contain less features than yesterday's release.
 
Sounds awesome fellers! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/onya.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="onya.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=161158:date=Sep 12 2006, 03:00 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Sep 12 2006, 03:00 AM) [snapback]161158[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
<!--quoteo(post=161129:date=Sep 11 2006, 04:37 PM:name=PirateSam)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(PirateSam @ Sep 11 2006, 04:37 PM) [snapback]161129[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
Has the CTD problem is fixed ??
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The major CTDs are fixed. There is still the occasional crash, but we can't really seem to figure out why these occur.

<!--quoteo(post=161150:date=Sep 11 2006, 06:27 PM:name=Petros)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Petros @ Sep 11 2006, 06:27 PM) [snapback]161150[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
The Ketch, Treasure Galleon, and a re-worked War Galleon should be ready for Build 13.1 I think.
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I will be very happy indeed to add them into Build 13.1. They will make very fine additions indeed. Perhaps the Ketch could even be made into a starting ship option. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=161156:date=Sep 11 2006, 07:13 PM:name=Jason)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jason @ Sep 11 2006, 07:13 PM) [snapback]161156[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
I will test you new code to today.
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That is great! Keep in mind that yesterday's release is more like a Post Build 13 pack and not the final Build 13 by any means. The final Build 13 will contain less features than yesterday's release.
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<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />
Yes please, as long as it will fix up the Sept.10 Bug!! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":bow" border="0" alt="bow.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=161204:date=Sep 11 2006, 11:30 PM:name=Fred Bob)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Fred Bob @ Sep 11 2006, 11:30 PM) [snapback]161204[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
Sounds awesome fellers! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/onya.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="onya.gif" />
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I hope you would also want to give Build 13 a try once it's done... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=161221:date=Sep 12 2006, 04:24 AM:name=Nosie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Nosie @ Sep 12 2006, 04:24 AM) [snapback]161221[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
Yes please, as long as it will fix up the Sept.10 Bug!! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":bow" border="0" alt="bow.gif" />
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I think it should fix it, yes. The Build 13 Beta version will basically be the same as IncredibleHat's latest version with some additional fixes added.
 
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