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Can't complete gray rock assault

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dendee

Landlubber
I take Ewan or whatever the name of that fella is, sail to Gray Rock with him to unload english troops. I arrive there and have to drop anchor manually (don't remember if that's the proper way or if the program should dump you on the shore upon arrival...). The english agent comes up, complains about the French attacking, I say "I'm always up for a fight", the dialogue ends... Then I see english and french soldiers running towards each other... and stopping. The never start attacking, they just stand there and stare at each other. My attempts to grab my sword result in a message "That's not a good idea". My officers just walk around. The exit inland is locked, I can still go back to my ship though. Ewan is still in my convoy in that case. I can come back to the gray rock bay at any moment, and see the scene as I left it.

This is the first time this happened to me. The only drastically different thing I did in this particular game was that I smuggled some goods to gray rock - waaay before I took this mission. I traded succesfully, then we got jumped by a british squadron. I promptly ran to the boat and left, without combat at all.

There was a coast guard ship waiting for me - I went full sail and escaped.The ship greets me as I arrive at oxbay island on a "deliver the soldiers" mission. I tried capturing it, escaping from it - same thing happens at gray rock. This is probably not relevant though.

Was it the smugglers at gray rock that screwed it up, I wonder? I don't mind starting a new game (yeah right...), but maybe someone will get curious and take a look at the situation? I am attaching a savegame. Load it and sail for gray rock.

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EDIT: Deleted the attached file, since the problem has been resolved, thanks to Hats swift move. Hat, ye be the best, shiver me timbers matey! Arr! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />
 
You said you ran away when you saw the gaurds during smuggling?

Did you let it first do the 'gaurd talks to you' bit BEFORE running away?

There is a flag, that turns off combat for the area for smuggling, but then turns it back on when the gaurds come and talk to you.

If you run away quick enough before the dialog starts, the area is forever locked into non-combat mode. This was done to prevent you from killing the smugglers you just dealt with.

However, there is no fail-safe in the code that if you leave during the raid, before the dialog starts, it resets the area to combat-able.

I will look for a spot to do that, so this doesnt occur again.
 
Ok, I found a place to put in a cleanup event.

When the interuption begins, it set combat to 'no' (something CCC added). This of course means if you run away, that will forever be set to no combat!!!

This will also mean, if you run away to your ship, all those characters will still be there, unable to fight.

It appears it was a kludge attempt to allow the player to run away from the dialog. Standard behavior was to force the player into the dialog with the gaurds. However, CCC didn't think it through, what would happen if you ran away from the dialog started. Tsk tsk <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

And who the hell spells neutral as NEITRAL ? Its plastered all over the code that way... tsk tsk again.
 
Oh...

And to make it so you CAN continue with that quest, and have the fight... try this:

find /PROGRAM/console.c

Up at the top say, somewhere AFTER "ref pchar = GetMainCharacter();", add this:

LAi_LocationFightDisable(&Locations[FindLocation(pchar.location)], false);


Then, go into the game, go to that shore, and hit the console button (F12). This should set that area to allow fighting, and either they wil begin fighting, or you can go attack them and kill them all.

Let me know if that works.
 
kinda the same thing happened to me but it was at the end of the mission after i meet ewan or whatever his name is back at the tavern, he just stood there and didnt do anything and i was stuck, all you have to do to solve all your problems is just sink the ship with the soldiers on it <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> it works, then all you have to do is complete the tobias part and your done! the only thing you will suffer is a little less reward money from the english gov for losing the ship but its only like 5k that you lose so it is like no big deal

o and by the way the part with the coastguard ship following you, just sink it and it will go away its no bug with the smugglers or anything its just it will keep showing up at that island until you sink it..
 
I've had almost this exact problem on two other missions (the no fighting and no weapon draw) and I suspect it's related to game corruption after crashes, particularly when crashes take pklace during save attempts. Its best to keep multiple saves on a game, only overwriting after some trouble free progress.

If you're having the same problem I've had (and it sounds like it) the saved game is probobly screwed. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" />
 
Sorry for a delay - just came back from a long party <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/buds.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":drunk" border="0" alt="buds.gif" />

Thanks a bunch Hat <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> I will definitely try your suggestion. Should I leave that line in forever, or should I remove it after I am past that location?

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And who the hell spells neutral as NEITRAL ? Its plastered all over the code that way
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That would be the Russians <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/jackhat.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":j2" border="0" alt="jackhat.gif" />
 
Hat,

It worked like a charm!! Thanks again <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

I'll remove that line now.

<a href="http://www.myfilehut.com/userfiles/158365/pirateslifeforme.mp3" target="_blank">Here</a> is a little token of my appreciation. Enjoy! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/buds.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":drunk" border="0" alt="buds.gif" />
 
About NEITRAL: It always was like that and code-wise it is correct. Crazy Russians. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wacko:" border="0" alt="wacko.gif" />
 
BTW neutral = нейтральный in Russian.

Не мог не вставлять это <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> lolz
 
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How do you pronounce "й"?

Hook
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Called "e short" in russian, it is basically a "j" in its "short e" form. Ne<b>i</b>traln<b>y</b> is the best approximate way to describe it (pronounced "ne-ee-tr<b>a</b>ln-e).

Having said that, I really doubt that your browser shows the proper character in its place. so there:

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P.S. Silverhawk, перестань загадывать им загадки... не отцепятся ведь... savvy?
 
It does show the correct font. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> And there's an "л" in there as well. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

EDIT: Well, I see you have the L in there. It's bad when I can read the Cyrillic fonts easier than I can the English ones. The "l" looked like an "i" to me. Anyway, I was asking SilverHawk. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

Hook
 
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It does show the correct font. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> And there's an "л" in there as well. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

Hook
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The proper codepage is a good start. In (a remote) case you want to study Russian a bit, to help you find your way in the russian mods, you have but to ask <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

oh, and "Л" is "L" <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/poet.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":hmm" border="0" alt="poet.gif" />
 
I already edited my post before your reply about the L character. I guess we were posting at the same time.

I "studied Russian a bit" 35 years ago. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Hook
 
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I "studied Russian a bit" 35 years ago. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
Hook
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You aren't kidding... right? May I inquire where? I'm <i>really</i> curious about that <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> hope you forgive my curiosity...
 
A boss where I worked had a set of Russian language instruction materials. They included several books, some 45 rpm records and a Russian dictionary. He didn't want them any more, so I asked if I could have them.

I was surprised at how difficult the records were to understand, even when I knew what they were supposed to be saying. Learning German was much easier, even with similar learning materials. Maybe if they'd talked a little slower. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

I never learned enough Russian for it to be useful. But I can read the Cyrillic font, and I have it installed on my computers. I can even change the source code font in my editor so I can work out the Russian comments. Online translators help a lot. The word that threw me the worst is when they transliterated "Hitpoints" into Cyrillic.

I did learn enough German to be useful when I lived there 3 years. But I'm nowhere fluent in that language either.

Hook
 
Wow Hook, this is actually the first time I see an american studying Russian for no apparent reason <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Good job on that. If you ever need an advice on the matter, feel free to drop me a line (or to Silverhawk for that matter... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" />
 
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P.S. Silverhawk, перестань загадывать им загадки... не отцепятся ведь... savvy?
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Да понимают
 
Мочь понять русского имеет некоторые преимущества.
 
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