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KaiserWilhelm

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I know there has been a lot of talk recently of the similarities between the <i>Flying Dutchman</i> of PotC2 fame and the Swedish <i>Vasa</i>. I was searching the web today and found this site, one that I believe is probably the best source I've found to date of Vasa photos. I think that it'd be a gem to anyone who wanted to attempt and model this fine ship, as I'm sure she'd be an amazing addition to the game! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />

<a href="http://www.modelships.de/Wasa/Photos%20VASA.htm" target="_blank">http://www.modelships.de/Wasa/Photos%20VASA.htm</a>
 
that's obviously what's the flying dutchman's based upon. it seems to me a bit of an odd idea to make the vasa to cannibalise it to make the flying dutchman. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" /> but i don't think that that's what you meant. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />
 
I was hoping more along the lines of someone could make the Vasa, add it ingame, and THEN cannibalize it to make the Dutchman <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
I remember that someone started working on the Vasa once, many months ago.

They didn't get far. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" />
 
I've seen some <i>Flying Dutchman</i> side views and got <i>Vasa</i> blueprints, so I can tell you... <i>Flying Dutchman</i> ain't <i>Vasa</i> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

More precisely, FD isn't just <i>Vasa</i> with all that funky sea flora attached - it's more like "younger cousin" than "water-loving brother" (for example, it carries less cannons), so, making FD out of <i>Vasa</i> would certainly be as difficult as making FD from scratch, unfortunately.
 
A shame. Either ship would be a great addition to the already sterling list of game improvements. BTW, Kazeite, any updates from your modeling shipyards?
 
I hope it is! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />
 
I hope no one will make this ship <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blah:" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> Why? cuz that ship sunk after a few hours :blah there was to many cannon's on the ship <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whippa.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":whipa" border="0" alt="whippa.gif" /> hehe

so if this ship is sailing in the caribbean i will be disapointed <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blah:" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />
 
i don't think so <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blah:" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> Vasa do not have cursed nose and not lion head's on boath side <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blah:" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />

and read the last reply... VASA SUNK AFTER SOME HOURS <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" />

read this... <a href="http://www.vasamuseet.se/sitecore/content/Vasamuseet/InEnglish/History/Why.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.vasamuseet.se/sitecore/content/...istory/Why.aspx</a>

<img src="http://extreme.infomagic.net/static/vasa.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

so it's imposible to see vasa sailing around caribbean <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blah:" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> !
 
well yeah. but it would be nice to see what the ship could have actually done if it didn't sink.
 
i don't think so <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> i will not have it in my game <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" /> then i take it out <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blah:" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />
 
People... How could you <i>even</i> imagine "Vasa" in the Caribbean? That "ship" sank in <b>Stockholm harbour</b> as soon as she experienced some stronger wind from a side (but weather wasn't even stormy then)! She would <b>never</b> made it into Caribbean. That was failed construction due to overloading her with heavy cannons. There are many better ships from the era, which could be modeled for a game, and are better candidates than that ill-constructed wreck.

pirate_kk
 
<!--quoteo(post=239554:date=Feb 19 2008, 11:54 AM:name=pirate_kk)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pirate_kk @ Feb 19 2008, 11:54 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=239554"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->There are many better ships from the era, which could be modeled for a game, and are better candidates than that ill-constructed wreck.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Like the Flying Dutchman. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />

And yes I agree that we only should put ships in our game what aren't failed ill-constructed wrecks. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />
 
The ships we put in the game depend on which models are made by the people who want to and can make them. If nobody makes the Wasa, we'll have none. If somebody does make the Wasa, we can put her in and everybody can take her out again if they don't like her. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->People... How could you even imagine "Vasa" in the Caribbean? That "ship" sank in Stockholm harbour as soon as she experienced some stronger wind from a side (but weather wasn't even stormy then)! She would never made it into Caribbean. That was failed construction due to overloading her with heavy cannons. There are many better ships from the era, which could be modeled for a game, and are better candidates than that ill-constructed wreck.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

It was just a suggestion anyways. I figured with such a diverse crowd of modders with different interests, maybe someone would be interested in making it and would need a decent source of reference pictures. No reason to get all pissy at someone for presenting good pictures of a beautiful ship, no matter where or when she sank. Last I checked, most people here were usually pretty open to ideas, suggestions or people simply posting things to help out those better at modding then the rest.
 
<!--quoteo(post=239554:date=Feb 19 2008, 11:54 AM:name=pirate_kk)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pirate_kk @ Feb 19 2008, 11:54 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=239554"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->People... How could you <i>even</i> imagine "Vasa" in the Caribbean? That "ship" sank in <b>Stockholm harbour</b> as soon as she experienced some stronger wind from a side (but weather wasn't even stormy then)! She would <b>never</b> made it into Caribbean. That was failed construction due to overloading her with heavy cannons. There are many better ships from the era, which could be modeled for a game, and are better candidates than that ill-constructed wreck.

pirate_kk<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Yeah, and how would anyone even imagine walking skeletons in the Caribbean? I don't see any problem in having additional ships.
 
See my previous post. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/user_comment.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="user_comment.gif" />
 
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