HMS Victoey

[jack_sparrow_jr]

hey

any modelers making the HMS Victory ?

 

[Fred Bob]

People 'ave spoke o' de Victory, etc. but dat be about it! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /> Do ye a search fer mo' details! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="yes.gif" /> Feel free tew make ye any ol' ship ye be havin' a fancy tew craft, matey! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />

 

[jack_sparrow_jr]

i mean the victory MODEL AND SKIN
<a href="http://www.`hms-victory`.com/home.htm" target="_blank">http://www.`hms-victory`.com/home.htm</a>

 

[capt cookie]

indeed it would

 

[jack_sparrow_jr]

better with the 42 lbs bronce cannon on it .......

 

[capt cookie]

jsj remember what kieron said no difference between the 32s and the 42's

 

[jack_sparrow_jr]

well .... in real life .... those 42's had more damage power ...... but unreliable ...... so one admiral changed 'em to 32's

 

[`Sigma-6`]

They didn't have more penetration power, actually. And they were 'reliable', per se. They were just heavier and harder to work for no significant increase in performance. Victory only had 42 pounders at one point in her career.

 

[jack_sparrow_jr]

During Victory's active service life many changes were made to her and her armament. On naval ships the ordnance was commonly referred to as the 'Great Guns': this distinguishing them from the Small Arms.

1765: Original main armament

Deck Number Size
Lower gun deck
30
42 pounders

Middle gun deck
28
24 pounders

Upper gun deck
30
12 pounders

Quarter deck
10
6 pounders

Forecastle
2
6 pounders

1778
11th March: The 30 bronze 42 pounders were removed and replaced with 30 x 32 pounders. Admiral Keppel disliked the 42 pounder for the following reasons: gun crew too large; rate of fire slower and the bronze / brass guns, recoiled violently when hot).

(this (above) is what i ment "unreliable")

1779
The 30 x 32 pounders were removed and replaced with 30 x 42 pounders as original. 8 x 12 pounder carronades were fitted as additional armament on the poop deck.

(they did come back)

1780
The 8 x 12 pounder carronades were removed.

1781
2 x 24 pounder carronades and 6 x18 pounder carronades were fitted on the poop deck. 2 x 32 pounder carronades fitted on the forecastle

1783
All the 6 pounder carriage guns fitted on the quarter deck and forecastle were removed and replaced by 12 pounder carriage guns.

1788
The 6 x 18 pounder carronades were removed and not replaced.

1793
The 2 x 24 pounder carronades fitted on the poop deck were removed and not replaced.

1797
The ship now out of commission, all of the guns were removed. The bronze 42 pounders, now obsolete was superseded by the 32 pounder which had become the standard heavy gun fitted in British ships of war.

1803: Victorys’ armament when she `re-commissioned` after her ‘great repair' comprised:


Deck Number Size
Lower gun deck
30
32 pounders (long)

Middle gun deck
28
24 pounders (long)

Upper gun deck
30
12 pounders (long)

Quarter deck
12
12 Pounders (short)

Forecastle
2
2
12 pounders (medium)
32 pounder carronades

1805: Victory's armament at Trafalgar was 104 guns comprising;

Deck Number Size
Lower gun deck
30
32 pounders (long)

Middle gun deck
28
24 pounders (long)

Upper gun deck
30
12 pounders (long)

Quarter deck
12
12 Pounders (short)

Forecastle
2
2
12 pounders (medium)
* 64 pounder carronades

and more to read at <a href="http://www.`hms-victory`.com/ordnance.htm" target="_blank">http://www.`hms-victory`.com/ordnance.htm</a>

 

[`Sigma-6`]

Just because they recoil violently doesn't mean that they're not reliable. All bronze guns did that. It's generally a question of preference. In this case, I'd tend to agree with Keppel however. There's a very good account of her armament in 'HMS Victory, Anatomy of the Ship,' which reference I used when I built my 1/100th model of her.

 

[jack_sparrow_jr]

cool .... but nice to know <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

 

[Vassal]

Can you give us a pix? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" />

 

[Admiral8Q]

Mine be 52' pounders, beat that!!!

Hoe big arr ye pounders? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ib012.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cry" border="0" alt="ib012.gif" />

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[Vassal]

Hahaha......funny pictures matey <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="8)" border="0" alt="cool.gif" />

 

[`Sigma-6`]

<img src="http://www.nelsonsnavy.co.uk/gun32.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

Here's a 32 pounder on victory's lower gundeck. Obviously, (as I'm sure most people here know) they're named for the weight of the iron ball they fired.

 

[Vassal]

Awesome matey <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="ohmy.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_eek.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":" border="0" alt="icon_eek.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" />

 

[Lucky Jack Aubrey]

That´s nice... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />

Think about standing on the quarterdeck, when the entire ship is shaking when some 50 guns go off. One broadside...
Would kill to be there...
<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="cheers.gif" />:

 

[CatalinaThePirate]

Heh, yeah, talk about shivering timbers! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/onya.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="onya.gif" />

 

[Admiral8Q]

<!--`QuoteBegin-Sigma`-6+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(`Sigma-6`)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
Here's a 32 pounder on victory's lower gundeck. Obviously, (as I'm sure most people here know) they're named for the weight of the iron ball they fired.[/quote]

Well if they are alluminum balls, they'd be HUGE!!!! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_eek.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":" border="0" alt="icon_eek.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

 

[Cap'n Archibald McNil]

Um...Didn't this post have to do with the question of whether someone was making the Victory? Heh

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