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Making a New Lifeboat

Petros

Petros

Captain of "La Nao"
Storm Modder
The build uses the Tartane as a lifeboat but it is a small fishing boat in POTC.
Here next to the schooner the scale and crew size can be seen as just about right.

The Tartane is not a lifeboat!
[attachment=1325:TartaneScale.gif]
 
I wonder if we can somehow enable the "boat" model as sailable ship that we could then use as lifeboat. Then we wouldn't need to use the Tartane as lifeboat anymore.
 
well excuse me, but i don't really have a CHOICE wether or not to use the tartane when i sink do i? besides, i always found it a bit odd that the gunboat has a lifeboat that's just as big or maybe even bigger than the ship itself.
 
Tartanes don't have "lifeboats" anymore. Perhaps we should also change this for the Gunboat. Then if you sink with a Gunboat, you're dead. Just like with a Tartane. Or we can try to do what I proposed with the "boat".
 
I got a crash last time I tried. But I didn't try very hard. I just set the "boat" as my own ship. That didn't work.
 
<!--quoteo(post=222226:date=Nov 19 2007, 06:25 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Nov 19 2007, 06:25 AM) [snapback]222226[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I wonder if we can somehow enable the "boat" model as sailable ship that we could then use as lifeboat. Then we wouldn't need to use the Tartane as lifeboat anymore.
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It might be possible, except for one thing.

Build code now has it that a ship/boat with no masts, i.e. 0% sail, will not maneuver or sail.
Oars aren't coded.

As I understand it now, the "lifeboat" Tartane is being used to actually "sail" away from a battle, or perhaps back into it for a chance at boarding to take over another ship.

A lifeboat in the build won't sail anywhere.
 
i think someone said it was possible though. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /> i don't remember how anymore, but it was possible to make an invisible sail. besides, why not stick a little squaresail on it like on the jolly mol, jack's leaky gig in the first film?
 
<!--quoteo(post=222277:date=Nov 19 2007, 10:21 AM:name=Morgan Terror)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Morgan Terror @ Nov 19 2007, 10:21 AM) [snapback]222277[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->well excuse me, but i don't really have a CHOICE wether or not to use the tartane when i sink do i? ..<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sink that often do you? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" />

I've never even seen this "Tartane/lifeboat" thing in action.
 
well, kamikazëing a gunboat into some really big ship to board it only works part of the time. then you'll be really thankful for that tartane. i've only once used a war tartane, and that was in the stormy start. i bought it, unbelievably enough.
 
<!--quoteo(post=222313:date=Nov 19 2007, 04:49 PM:name=Petros)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Petros @ Nov 19 2007, 04:49 PM) [snapback]222313[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It might be possible, except for one thing.
Build code now has it that a ship/boat with no masts, i.e. 0% sail, will not maneuver or sail.
Oars aren't coded.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->True. But wouldn't it be possible to make a copy of the lifeboat and actually add a mast with sail to it? Actually we now have three different boats that we could use: The original stock game boat, the Build 13 boat (from the SLiB mod) and another new one made by a Russian modder that I put into my game:
<img src="http://www.s31clan.com/privateftps/pietersmods/images/all_ships/boat.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
It would be nice if we could use one of those (or even two of those) as lifeboat and use the other one as regular boat. Perhaps using the stock game boat as lifeboat would be the best. That one doesn't have a modeled crew.

Please find attached the original stock game boat file, along with a screenshot from the GM Viewer. I think this thing would look just fine with a mast and sail added on and would be perfect as lifeboat.
 
<!--quoteo(post=222320:date=Nov 19 2007, 10:57 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Nov 19 2007, 10:57 AM) [snapback]222320[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->True. But wouldn't it be possible to make a copy of the lifeboat and actually add a mast with sail to it? Actually we now have three different boats that we could use: The original stock game boat, the Build 13 boat (from the SLiB mod) and another new one made by a Russian modder that I put into my game:
<img src="http://www.s31clan.com/privateftps/pietersmods/images/all_ships/boat.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
It would be nice if we could use one of those (or even two of those) as lifeboat and use the other one as regular boat. Perhaps using the stock game boat as lifeboat would be the best. That one doesn't have a modeled crew.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sounds like a fun thing to try.
Mast and sail would have to be scaled down to boat size.
I would not be able to even look at doing this for another 24 hours or more.
 
<!--quoteo(post=222315:date=Nov 19 2007, 04:52 PM:name=Morgan Terror)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Morgan Terror @ Nov 19 2007, 04:52 PM) [snapback]222315[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->it was possible to make an invisible sail.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->That's possible simply by using an unexisting sail file. I had that happen to me on occasion by accident when working on adding new sails to the game. Also many people had this after installing Alpha 7 without running the <i>postinstall.exe</i> file.

<!--quoteo(post=222317:date=Nov 19 2007, 04:52 PM:name=Petros)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Petros @ Nov 19 2007, 04:52 PM) [snapback]222317[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I've never even seen this "Tartane/lifeboat" thing in action.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->It is part of CouchcaptainCharles' survival mod. When you die ashore, you are revived in the tavern. When you sink at sea, you end up in a Tartane as lifeboat. This also happens when being mutinied upon. It's only "game over" when dying on boardings or sinking with a Tartane.

<!--quoteo(post=222322:date=Nov 19 2007, 05:05 PM:name=Petros)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Petros @ Nov 19 2007, 05:05 PM) [snapback]222322[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I would not be able to even look at doing this for another 24 hours or more.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Don't worry; we are in no particular hurry on this one. Would be cool if we could do it though! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=222315:date=Nov 19 2007, 05:52 PM:name=Morgan Terror)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Morgan Terror @ Nov 19 2007, 05:52 PM) [snapback]222315[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->besides, why not stick a little squaresail on it like on the jolly mol, jack's leaky gig in the first film?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Teheheheheee... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" />
 
actually, the gunboat uses the stock lifeboat for it's hull. but i guess you already noticed that. still, the lifeboat with the square sail would be perfect to use for the main quest and/or the evil stormy start. although the evil stormy start could use the tartane like it does now, of course.
 
I thought I indeed noticed some similarities between the "boat" and the Gunboat. That proves that the "boat" looks good with a mast added to it. In that case we just might be able to hyjack the Gunboat's locators and stick them onto the lifeboat, along with the mast. It would indeed be a very good idea to use a Lifeboat for the CotBP main quest. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />
 
We can try to add a square sail to the lifeboat then. I do think that a square sail would probably be more realistic for a lifeboat.
 
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