I have got all the Patrician games just never sat down and played any of them, i was hooked on Port Royale 2 and didn't do any research into what Patrician 1, 2 or 3 was about. I just picked them up as a next game to play as each was released. I picked Patrician 4 up the day it came out and as i was having a clean out of my old games i picked the game up and thourght i should give this a chance because i have never played any of them, so till earlier today i never even knew it was similar to Port Royale 2. So when GOF is released i think i am going to have to play it and see if it has the same level of addiction Port Royale 2 has which i was pleasently suprissed works fine on Windows 7 (i must have a more up to date copy, because i read some copies don't work on anything other than XP). All i know is my copy is already fully up to date with the latest patch ever released. While i was looking at it i soon noticed one good type we have missing which is very important and should be made as a good required for sail upgrades (rope). I think we should replace Brandy for Rope and then added as a required good for the sail upgrade at Bermuda. Moving back to Patrician 4 though, i know P3 has been put as the best in the series, but since i have never played any of them i can only compare them to PR2 which is most likely going to be much more different than i expect, so for that reason i will play P4 rather than a earlier one. I have read that much has changed in the patches with some features added so maybe that is a good thing for those who didn't like P4 originally, i don't know. Just woundering whats your thourghts on P4 and is it like PR2?