• New Horizons on Maelstrom
    Maelstrom New Horizons


    Visit our website www.piratehorizons.com to quickly find download links for the newest versions of our New Horizons mods Beyond New Horizons and Maelstrom New Horizons!

Please HEEELLLLPPP

Yeah, it's in the manual and has been stated quite often in other threads. You can attack ANY town and ANY time providing you do one of the following things:

1. You make the town hostile enough to fire on you as you approach. You can do this by sinking that nation's ships and attacking other towns AND by firing at the town on your approach by pressing the spacebar. IF you have rank with that nationality, they might need quite a few shots to make them fire upon you. If you are a Spanish Duke, you will probably have to shoot at it ALOT! Which brings up the next method (apparently, firing shots into the town to piss it off, also damages it's economy which is why some prefer the following method).

2. Park your ship on the shore a short distance from the town and march your crew into town. As your approach, the option to attack, sneak or go away, will appear.

You CAN NOT attack a settlement. And as far as installing a governor goes, the option with ONLY appear if they have a relatively small garison - say 120 and you outnumber them by quite a bit with your crew (and you win the battle of course). If the town has fewer than 100 soldiers, you may not even get a land battle. Instead, you may fight the Captain of the Guard along the fortress walls.

I think we need to sticky the answer to the "attack/takeoever the town" topic.
 
Another thing -

"Attacking from the sea" - in the original game, if you attacked a town that had forts, you had to sail towards the fort as it fired on you, and then you could attack the town proper.

This feature is NOT in the new game. But, as has been said before, you can "attack from the sea" - in that you can be given option to attack a town without actually anchoring your ship and marching to the town. I know, why does "attacking from the sea" result in a land battle...

I think part of the problem here is that several people are saying the same thing, they are just using different terms. Some think of "attacking from the sea" to mean the way it was in the original game (which has been removed)... again, see my previous post <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
Aye Cap'n Toast, be wunder'n why they didn't remove de attack town option from de Sea mode,kinda confuses players <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
(EDIT: Read what toast posted, I posted this before I saw his post)


Numpty01, I can and do regularly attack towns with less pirates than they have troops. Also you say no one has even mentioned settlement, I would kindly suggest you actually read the very first post that started all this. I do not mean to be unkind however taking the time to actually read the posts will go along way toward eliminating some `mis-understandings`. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

As for the confusion about attacking towns... I can only relay the experiences that I have had playing the game. I CAN and DO attack towns with less pirates than they have troops. Now installing a Governor after that attack is a different thing... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

By all means, if someone believes its impossible to attack a town with 200 pirates when the town has 250 troops feel free to post here. Here is a entire thread devoted to attacking towns with less pirates than they have troops <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> <a href="http://forum.piratesahoy.net/ftopic3557.php" target="_blank">http://forum.piratesahoy.net/ftopic3557.php</a>

As for not paying Keith, unless I am mistaken, in which case I will glady apologize.. THIS is a FAN SITE, made by a FAN/FANS of the game. Kieth is not an employee of Firaxis or Atarti. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Posting here costs nothing, so I am unsure why you think you have given Keith money and he OWES you better answers? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
I'd not be aware Keith has a retirement fund,very enterprise'n Keith <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
thats Aussie prices for you

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->99.99? You got ripped man. I got the limited edition DVD US Release for 49.99<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


Oh well dude, thats the norm over here for new games, as I said DVD near on $100.00 Oz and the CD version $90.00, I buy all my games for Electronic Boutque in Redbank. Such is life dude. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":c" border="0" alt="mad.gif" />


Cheers <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
excellent dude, finally the confusion is over

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yeah, it's in the manual and has been stated quite often in other threads. You can attack ANY town and ANY time providing you do one of the following things:

1. You make the town hostile enough to fire on you as you approach. You can do this by sinking that nation's ships and attacking other towns AND by firing at the town on your approach by pressing the spacebar. IF you have rank with that nationality, they might need quite a few shots to make them fire upon you. If you are a Spanish Duke, you will probably have to shoot at it ALOT! Which brings up the next method (apparently, firing shots into the town to piss it off, also damages it's economy which is why some prefer the following method).

2. Park your ship on the shore a short distance from the town and march your crew into town. As your approach, the option to attack, sneak or go away, will appear.

You CAN NOT attack a settlement. And as far as installing a governor goes, the option with ONLY appear if they have a relatively small garison - say 120 and you outnumber them by quite a bit with your crew (and you win the battle of course). If the town has fewer than 100 soldiers, you may not even get a land battle. Instead, you may fight the Captain of the Guard along the fortress walls.

I think we need to sticky the answer to the "attack/takeoever the town" topic.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


Will put this theory to the test <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/onya.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="onya.gif" />


Cheers <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
Sorry dude and Keith didn't mean to offend

As title says, sorry for any misunderstanding on my half <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" />


Cheers <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
You cannot attack settlements/villages. Period.

When going at towns (ones with forts and defenders), you need to be in hostile relations with the country you are attacking. Do this either by sinking their ships until there's a price on your head (one or two should be enough) or shooting at the town from the sea).

It should not matter whether you approach the town from sea or by land.

Once you are in hostile relations with a country, you can attack any town with defenders, unless your crew is hopelessly outnumbered. That is, you can attack with 200 men against a town with about 400 defenders, but you cannot attack with 200 men against a town with 700 defenders (the option is greyed out in the menu that pops up when you approach the town).
 
Im going to start a new game

Yeah thanks dude, I think we have got it now, on a different note you wouldn't know where one pirate can find a ship of the line do you? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bookish.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":mm" border="0" alt="bookish.gif" />


Cheers <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
Here I bring a few notes:

- Settlements are the small towns, the ones that have mayors instead of governors.
- A nation has to be hostile towards you to have the game allow you to attack one of its towns.
- If the town's friendly, fire your cannons at it until the fort starts firing back. Then sail into the port and you'll be given the choice to attack the town.
- You can either attack a town by sailing into its harbor or walking up to it after having landed nearby. Whichever path you take, once you choose to attack the town, you'll be taken to the land battle.
- If the town's garrison severely outnumbers your crew, you'll get the window `pop-up` to "Leave Town" or "Sneak into Town", but the "Attack the Town" option will be <b>grayed out</b>, showing something like <i>104 men vs. 500 soldiers</i>.

PS: Woops, didn't realize this topic had two pages. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" />
 
<!--`QuoteBegin-Captain` Shadow+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Captain Shadow)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
- A nation has to be hostile towards you to have the game allow you to attack one of its towns.
- If the town's friendly, fire your cannons at it until the fort starts firing back. Then sail into the port and you'll be given the choice to attack the town. [/quote]

Well, I found out that your second point negates the first one. I was sided with Spain in the 1600's setting. They were at peace with the French. I fired a couple of shots into the Florida Keys which was governed by the French at the time and it gave me the option to attack it when I sailed in. So I did and took it for Spain. Of course, Spain was mad at me, but promoted me anyways.

<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" />
 
I don't understand where does one negate the other. In order to attack Florida Keys, you turned France against you by shooting at the town and then attacking it. With this you achieved both points, since the nation was no longer friendly towards you, so when you sailed into its harbor, you got the choice to attack it. Spain showed a strange approval/disapproval behaviour because you attacked its ally's town but at the same time you got a new town for them.
 
Good facts dude

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Here I bring a few notes:  

- Settlements are the small towns, the ones that have mayors instead of governors.  
- A nation has to be hostile towards you to have the game allow you to attack one of its towns.  
- If the town's friendly, fire your cannons at it until the fort starts firing back. Then sail into the port and you'll be given the choice to attack the town.  
- You can either attack a town by sailing into its harbor or walking up to it after having landed nearby. Whichever path you take, once you choose to attack the town, you'll be taken to the land battle.  
- If the town's garrison severely outnumbers your crew, you'll get the window `pop-up` to "Leave Town" or "Sneak into Town", but the "Attack the Town" option will be grayed out , showing something like 104 men vs. 500 soldiers .<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


Thanks

Cheers <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
Well, before I sailed into the French town, I checked my status and there was no indication that the French were hostile towards me even though I just fired a few volleys into one of their cities. Yet I was still able to attack the town. Your first point above says the nation has to be hostile to you. Guess I just don't understand what you mean by hostile. Are you saying they have to have a price on your head? I did get a price on my head, but only after taking the town.
 
No, no. By "hostile" I meant the point when the town firing back at you. A nation puts a price on your head after repeated transgressions or a major act against them.
 
Ahhh. Okay. Well, they didn't fire back, but that's because they didn't have a fort. I'm sure they would have fired back on me if they could have.

Anyways, just misunderstood what you meant by hostile. Thanks for clearing it up.

<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" />
 
Yes either the entire nation has to be hostile towards you or just that particular town for you to be able to attack it. When you fire you guns at the town you will make just that town hostile towards you, but the nation as a whole and other cities of that nation will still be friendly. By the way this is all in the manual, hint hint.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top