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Revolutions?

The change of gameplay era would be too drastic. I think that if some part of modders wants to make such fundamental modifications, they should create addon to the Build rather than make revolutions which some other would don't like. I think that because making a switch in BuildSettings.h is impossible in this situation, this changes should be made as follows:
- 1st file - pure Build modpack with Portugal, soldiers/townguards without muskets, but with ships (like smaller frigates (with 28-32 guns) and large frigates (40-46 guns) - note that in this case corvettes should be smaller than small frigates);
- 2nd file - something like "Build USA Independence War 1814 addon", with all proposed changes and even with modified main plot in which Nathaniel is a hero fighting in the cause of freedom for USA (or he's a hero trying to help Britain conquer USA). After installing base modpack, people who want USA campaign would just extract addon over Build mod.
I'm sure that it would require more work, but on the other hand we could get two things at once (possibility of playing in Age of Piracy and/or Napoleonic/USA Indpendence era). In my opinion it would be optimal solution which would make everyone happy.

Best regards,
pirate_kk
 
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...and nobody, nobody is going to remove the dutch!!!
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You are quite right, since there's a Dutchman compiling the modpack. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" />

Ideas abound, but I'm afraid that it is all a bit too much work for the few people here who still do modding. We have a hard enough time getting the Post Build 12 mods properly working. Making a complete replacement of a nation and adding a completely new quest is a huge undertaking. Not to mention that muskets don't work right in this game. So we could add some American stuff if somebody makes it, but making an entire mod for it probably just isn't going to happen... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
ok it iosn't perfect but i beleive i did the best with the model available sorry.if anyone knows of the man o war without the silly stern walkways lemme know and i'll use that one and have another crack.
the sails still need redoing aswell so not uploading anything just yet.
<img src="http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/jampat/victory1.jpg" border="0" alt="IPB Image" />

oh yeah and i kinda didn't bother chucking a french flag on when leaving oxbay but for some reason that didn't slow me down any <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />
 
Then you don't have to download this... I want it to be military and Napoleonic... OK? YOU can keep it in the 1600s if you like... but I want it in the 1770-1815 period. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />
 
Wow, gorgeous skin! It'd look great coupled with Captain Hawk's rigging mods...almost like a true, period Victory <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

As for the modpack idea, I think it's a great one. I, for one, would totally download and play it, and I've been dyingggggggg for an update that would take the ships (and countries) up into the 1770-1815 period. If there was anything I could do to help, I gladly would.
 
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Are there any good skinners out there who might find this an exciting project? It would be a nice set of files to go with the rumored "War of 1812 Post Build 12 Addon".

Captain Hawk, wasn't it you who made the White Ensign file? Would you fancy making a "Star Spangled Banner"? It would be the 15 stars and stripes flag. Thankee!
 
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Wow, gorgeous skin! It'd look great coupled with Captain Hawk's rigging mods...almost like a true, period Victory <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

As for the modpack idea, I think it's a great one. I, for one, would totally download and play it, and I've been dyingggggggg for an update that would take the ships (and countries) up into the 1770-1815 period. If there was anything I could do to help, I gladly would.
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the rigging is being reworked <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/type_1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":nk" border="0" alt="type_1.gif" /> at the moment and should be done tonight east coats australian time. i just know how much a couple of folks have wanted a victory skin done so thought i'd tease em with a preview <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/razz.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":razz" border="0" alt="razz.gif" />

oh well back to work i guess <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whippa.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":whipa" border="0" alt="whippa.gif" />
 
WOW!
thanks alot, and please give us plenty of updates.
by the way, could you put an enlarged Corvette's mizzen mast on it?
TIA <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
p.s:Commodore JPJ, you said in a thread that you used one of the JMV military reskins, the commodore one, could you tell me how to add them? i tried to extract them into the game by highlighting them all then hitting extract to the game file, but it messed everything up.
TIA
 
that's basically what i'm trying to do now LN but the parts of tool that in the tutorial say rescale thing don't actually rescale they only rotate so trying to find spars big enough to fit the man o war is being a bitch. will keep battling on regardless and will hopefully come up with something. i mkight have to borrow a couple of gaff rig booms and try to work them around but this model is just so much bigger then anythin else which is a pain
 
why not ask Captain Hawk if you could take his and mod it, and ask him how to resize the gaff rig boom while your at it:)? it would save having to add the flag staff to the deck and leave you with the gaff rig boom, with everything else already done, thanks to Captain Hawk <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />.
i think he knows how to do it, i mean, he rescaled the bowspirit, it was a frigate's [i think], so he might know.
p.s: could you show us a pic of the bow?
and how about sticking VICTORY on this one? or maybe put it in as an extra texture, so that on installing the ship we'll be able to choose between with the name and without?
i think it should replace the MOW MM, they usually have better stats than the normal ones, which would suit the victory, since it was always known for being a superior sailor for its size.
as for the napoleonic mod: now that an HMS Victory is nearly finished, i wouldn't mind having a mod like that, then i can attack france knowing that i'm hurting NAPOLEON's Navy, not some king i know nothing about, and probably dont have a problem with UNLESS he's trying to take over England.
 
i was planning on putting victory across the stern of it but the texture is mirrored around the back so it would just look really weird. and only place it isn't mirrored has dirty great cannon poking out of it sorry. i did manage to get nelsons coat of arms on the rear at the top but it's hard to see from the screen shot and i'll grab one of the front for ya see.

here ya go. i put the coat of arms on the bow chevron aswell
<img src="http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/jampat/victory2.jpg" border="0" alt="IPB Image" />

i was thinking i might convert the corvette spars to vrml and try resizing them in 3DS max.
 
never mind, it doesn't have to have HMS victory written on it, it was just a suggestion. and i would like to see Nelson's coat of arms, and a pic of the victory's bow zoomed in.
did you add the victory's figurehead aswell?
 
spoke too soon i think i have the scaling thing figured out. will take a bit of playing about but should have the sails fixed shortly.
 
its very nice, indeed.
but i have a suggestion: why not put a black outline for the gun ports, so that the gun and the outline is still surrounded by the yellow ore paint, but still make it look a bit more realistic.
and those dark blue lines in the grill thing [dont know what its called, but the pic should give you an example of what i mean.]
other than that it looks beautiful
 
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why not ask Captain Hawk if you could take his and mod it, and ask him how to resize the gaff rig boom while your at it:)? it would save having to add the flag staff to the deck and leave you with the gaff rig boom, with everything else already done, thanks to Captain Hawk <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />.
i think he knows how to do it, i mean, he rescaled the bowspirit, it was a frigate's [i think], so he might know.
p.s: could you show us a pic of the bow?
and how about sticking VICTORY on this one? or maybe put it in as an extra texture, so that on installing the ship we'll be able to choose between with the name and without?
i think it should replace the MOW MM, they usually have better stats than the normal ones, which would suit the victory, since it was always known for being a superior sailor for its size.
as for the napoleonic mod: now that an HMS Victory is nearly finished, i wouldn't mind having a mod like that, then i can attack france knowing that i'm hurting NAPOLEON's Navy, not some king i know nothing about, and probably dont have a problem with UNLESS he's trying to take over England.
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<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hi.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":gday" border="0" alt="hi.gif" /> To Lord Nelson + Captain Spectre
I do not know how to resize, sorry but it did not work for me. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" />
You can mod and change my ships mod as you like, do not have to ask from me. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
Petros has made new skin to" sloop of war" and i like it and i am happy if people like to alter or
use parts of my mod in they own mods <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
Bye CapHawk <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/type_1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":nk" border="0" alt="type_1.gif" />
 
I love the Napoleonic period as well but the game is so firmly set in the C.17th that I imagine the changes would be all but impossible.

e.g. most of the ship names change, what was called a brig in C.17th is usually known as a sloop in C.19th and all the ratings are wrong, a C.17th 3rd rate barely qualifies as a C.19th 6th rate. Likewise all the lines and proportions are entirely wrong for the C.19th.

Don't get me wrong, some of the ships look great, but soooo much more work would be required to get things vaguely accurate.

Capt.s Spectre & Hawk, why not copper-bottom your ships? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
there's an idea, why not <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" />?
and Capt. Spectre, i asked a few people i know about what they thought was missing in the HMS Victory skin, and they all agreed that the hull looked too black, it was difficult to see the planks,which made it look less realistic <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blush.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":eek:ops" border="0" alt="blush.gif" />.
so, could you make the tone abit lighter, so that the planks would show and the shading would aswell <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />?
do you think that's possible?
if not, nevermind, but that little modification in colour could end up making even the most pirate-hearted of us turn towards the ship <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />.
TIA
 
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Wow, gorgeous skin! It'd look great coupled with Captain Hawk's rigging mods...almost like a true, period Victory <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

As for the modpack idea, I think it's a great one. I, for one, would totally download and play it, and I've been dyingggggggg for an update that would take the ships (and countries) up into the 1770-1815 period. If there was anything I could do to help, I gladly would.
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the rigging is being reworked <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/type_1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":nk" border="0" alt="type_1.gif" /> at the moment and should be done tonight east coats australian time. i just know how much a couple of folks have wanted a victory skin done so thought i'd tease em with a preview <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/razz.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":razz" border="0" alt="razz.gif" />

oh well back to work i guess <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whippa.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":whipa" border="0" alt="whippa.gif" />
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I just went into the zipped folder and manually copied and pasted all the files in their respective folders.
 
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