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luitenants are part of the navy, are they not? wouldn't it be wierd to have them in a pirate crew? anyway, fighters are exactly what those toughs/deck fighters are for. maybe the bo'sun would decrease the chance of mutiny at low morale?
 
Not necesarilly. It can be a mock title, for example.

And yeah, I find Forrester to be better writer than O'Brien. I've read ol Hornblowe novels, but I just can't get through <i>Master and Commander</i>... even though I've watched the movie (so I am picturing Jack looking and talking like Russel Crowe <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> )
 
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That's pretty much exactly my situation. I have still enjoyed the book so far even with the wordiness, the characters in the book are great too. Have you read, "Captain from Connecticut"? That was a really good Forester novel. I keep wanting to buy Hornblower books but can't seem to bring myself to do it because my library has just about all the books.

And yeah I agree with you Morgan Terror about the luitenants. I just would like some other officers besides firstmates that would rightfully where the royal navy officer uniform. I guess toughs could do it, but all the toughs I have seen in my games had worse melee than the bosuns so I never hired any. Maybe I'll just get a bunch of 1st mates and give them luitenant uniforms so they can be my luitenants and future captains.
 
I don't know about translation. I've been trying to read it in English. I prefer reading English books in English if I can.
 
can we actually buy the marine uniforms in the game? i haven't seen any of them yet in the shops. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
For some uniforms you need to have a required minimum level with that nation to be able to buy them.
 
Wow, I've read the entire Aubrey/Maturin series through several times, and find them much more engaging than the Hornblower novels. Don't get me wrong, I think the Hornblower books are great, but as a sailing fan, I get more enjoyment out of the O'Brien books. I also like the Bolitho series by Alexander Kent. Just different tastes I guess! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sailr.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":sail" border="0" alt="sailr.gif" />
 
More the way they're written. Master and Commander is harder to read for people who are not very familiar with English seafaring terms. At least judging by the beginning of the first book. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />
 
Yeah... O'brien just doesn't take care of the dynamics of the story like Forester does. I think that Forester just knows how to manipulate the dynamics to make a more exciting, readable story. Of course this is based on only the first book of the Maturin/Aubrey series though, so I could be wrong. Forester seems to use the nautical jargon and details to build a story while O'Brien seems to use a story for the nautical jargon and details (and of course to build up some fabulous characters). Personally, I really like Forester's writing style anyway. Like you said, "just different tastes I guess"

Pieter, I'm not sure how much it would help, but I know there is a book you can get that's basically the companion book for the series that's supposed to explain a lot of the nautical stuff. As for myself, I just kind of read through it anyway and not really worry too much about what everything means. I think I would still like to get a book like that (I've already read a number of books about that this stuff, just not specifically about all the little nautical details. "Ships and Seamen of the American Revolution" by Jack Coggins came close and was a very interesting read).

Another great Forester novel that I mentioned earlier is "Captain from Connecticut." It is not in the Hornblower series; it is about an American captain during the war of 1812. I definately recommend it.

Oh, and PeterWillemoes, they are written in English. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" />
 
i'm not sure to which of the two types of books this one belongs, but i recommend 'the last grain race' because it's so damned funny. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" />
 
I'm still willing to at least manage to read through the first M&C. I just have to find the time and the willpower to continue. But I might read some more Hornblower. I have some unread ones still left. I once read a short story (in Dutch translation) written by Forester and that was also really good. I think it was about the attack of an Italian city in the second world war or so. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />
 
Are you better in dutch or english, or they both about the same to you?

I also almost always get a kick out the title of one of Forester's novels, "Death to the French". I think it's just hilarious that he actually published a book with that title. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> I think it was later renamed "Rifleman Dod"
 
LOL! That's a really funny title. Don't let a simple virtual sailor see that though. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" />
I'm just about as good at English as I am in Dutch. Frequently there are words I do know in English, but not in Dutch. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />
 
i know the ropes in english WAY better than in dutch. dutch is just way too complicated. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wacko:" border="0" alt="wacko.gif" /> english has more of a system in it.

did you know that captain dams is also french?
 
yeah. The book is about a English Rifleman (Rifleman Dod) who somehow gets left alone behind enemy lines and has to fight his way out I think. You can get a better idea of what it is about on amazon.com. "Captain from Connecticut" portrays the French in a much more positive light though.
 
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