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The NEW Black Pearl

Doober

Doober

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Has anyone tested Kazeite's Black Pearl? I attempted to use it, but it seems to have some sort of collision detection problem. Am I the only one to run into this? If it is a problem, does anyone know how to fix it? I know other ships like the Surprise were built from scratch and seem to work ok, so I would assume that there is a way to make it work properly...

<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
Yes, if you have Maya 4.5 <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

If I had Maya, I could export model with proper collision data, thanks to the Akella's plugins. But, seeing that I work with 3DSMax 8 from Autodesk (which, at this point, also makes Maya, making it rather ironic), I can't export anything directly to the game - I have to use TOOL. And, at least on my computer, TOOL is unable to generate proper collision data, which forces me to use already existing collision data. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" />

Maybe you'd be willing to conduct a little experiment?
Download the <a href="http://home.arcor.de/swigard/Downloads/TOOL/" target="_blank">TOOL</a>, if you haven't already.
Download "box.wrl" from my subdirectory at the FTP. This box.wrl is simplified model of the <i>Pearl</i>.
Open TOOL, open <i>Black Pearl</i> (theBlackPearl.gm), export locator files (using Locators/Write to file) and rename it.
Import box.wrl with <i>ship/item/location</i> and <i>invert texture</i> options checked. TOOL will ask you to point it to the already existing collision data to add to the model. Click cancel, and TOOL will attempt to generate collision data from box.wrl.
Now, add locator files (using Locators/Read from file), export the model as theBlackPearl.gm to theBlackPearl directory.
Launch the game and try to board the ship. If the game crashes, then we'll have confirmation that TOOL collision data generator doesn't work properly <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />
If not, then you'll be our personal hero <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" />
 
Perhaps we should try to contact Inez Dias, the person who made the tool. Perhaps she could give a hand with this. It's a shame to have such a beautiful model of the movie Black Pearl and not have it work entirely properly. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/piratesing.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shock" border="0" alt="piratesing.gif" />
 
Let me make sure I understand this, If I was able to find someone who had a professional version of Maya, I could give them the "box.wrl" file and they would be able to give us a working .gm file that would have the proper collision detection? If this is true, let me know, and I will see if I can find someone who will do this for us. Does it have to be Maya 4.5 or can it be a later version or even a similar professional modeling program? Would they need the plugin as well?
 
Maya 4.5 is required. No other version would work because you need the plug-in. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
Hmmm, that would seem to complicate matters. I even looked to see if I could buy a copy, not realizing how expensive such software is. WOW! $2000 for a graphics program? Thats crazy!

I'm assuming the PLE version does not work with the plugin?
 
That's showbusiness.

We had handful of guys with Maya 4.5, but they're gone and not responding now <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

EDIT: And, no, PLE version doesn't work with the any plugin. And it wouldn't work anyway, since it's based on newer version. Double bummer, huh?
 
Man, I haven't even had any luck finding a copy of Maya 4.5 to buy, it seems to be the ultimate elusive software. I don't see it on ebay, or any store. You would think SOMEONE would want to sell an old copy. I did notice Inzane had logged on not too long ago. I wonder if he would be willing to take some time to do us this favor since he evidentally has this elusive program. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
Me, I did sent him a PM, but he haven't responded.

Pieter, I sent you PM complaining about <i>Surprise</i> innacurancies. If you didn't get it, then maybe forum is losing PMs?
 
I sent him one, hopefully he can help us out, he did such an awesome job on the Surprise, it would be really great if he could get this model working the rest of the way.
 
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Pieter, I sent you PM complaining about <i>Surprise</i> innacurancies. If you didn't get it, then maybe forum is losing PMs?
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When did you send it? I did get lots of PMs of you about that, but none today. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
The most recent PM I got from you was from Oct 14 2006, so I think I did get it. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />
 
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Hmmm, that would seem to complicate matters. I even looked to see if I could buy a copy, not realizing how expensive such software is. WOW! $2000 for a graphics program? Thats crazy!

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Thats why i was so chuffed to pick up my older version of 3DMax for just £20 in a car-boot sale. I should say finding this kind of thing in a car-boot is a longshot(before you all rush out to your local ones!), i've been to quite a few over the years, and this was the best software bargin i'd ever come across. If only it had been maya 4.5 <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />
 
will this pearl be in the final release of build 13?its verry important cause i download any beta that comes out or any new version that comes out so i wanna now should i wait for build 13 to come out or not cause i wanna start with my fun mod (its gonna have a toggle in the buildsetting maby later in the build mod itself)offcourse this fun mod will be for build 13.1 or build 14
 
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Hmmm, that would seem to complicate matters. I even looked to see if I could buy a copy, not realizing how expensive such software is. WOW! $2000 for a graphics program? Thats crazy!

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Thats why i was so chuffed to pick up my older version of 3DMax for just £20 in a car-boot sale. I should say finding this kind of thing in a car-boot is a longshot(before you all rush out to your local ones!), i've been to quite a few over the years, and this was the best software bargin i'd ever come across. If only it had been maya 4.5 <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />
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I found a website that offers "backup-copies" of full versions Maya and 3DMax for only 30 Euro.
<a href="http://www.alldvd.org/shop/index.php?cPath=74" target="_blank">http://www.alldvd.org/shop/index.php?cPath=74</a>

the webpage is filled with miss spellings and the layout looks like it was made by a 10 year old. All in all very trustworthy, this would be the first place I would like to put my credit card information on. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" />
But you can get software for 2% of its retail price (or pay for it and get nothing)
other tham that I couldn't find anyone using or selling Maya 4.5 (you can get Maya 8 for $600 on ebay)
Maybe someone at Akela could help
 
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I found a website that offers "backup-copies" of full versions Maya and 3DMax for only 30 Euro.
<a href="http://www.alldvd.org/shop/index.php?cPath=74" target="_blank">http://www.alldvd.org/shop/index.php?cPath=74</a>

the webpage is filled with miss spellings and the layout looks like it was made by a 10 year old. All in all very trustworthy, this would be the first place I would like to put my credit card information on. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" />
But you can get software for 2% of its retail price (or pay for it and get nothing)
other tham that I couldn't find anyone using or selling Maya 4.5 (you can get Maya 8 for $600 on ebay)
Maybe someone at Akela could help
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Those "backup-copies" are version 8 which doesn't work anyhow evidentally. I swear, I think Maya 4.5 has got to be the most elusive program out there. I haven't been able to find it being sold ANYWHERE! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" />

It would be awesome if Akella would release another patch for a newer version, but I think the chances of that are somewhere around zero.
 
If they'd update the tools to support Maya 8, I could be helpful there. As it is, apparently anything I make would have collision problems, which bothers me a bit. I know I've got an old copy of 4.5 floating around somewhere, but damned if I can find it.

Cap'n Drow
 
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