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Dedicated Bug Reporting Thread BUILD 12

Emrep, I'm sure it's not a hardware problem:

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Pentium 4 3Ghz processor
ASUS `P4-P800E` Deluxe m/b
1Gb DDRRAM
ASUS Radeon AX800 Pro 256 Mb VRAM with latest Omega drivers<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
 
I wanted to prove that it functions even without build11 with few handles.
"rödelrödel" came from errors witch were written into logfiles as a result of missing files. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" />
Further... to install build11!! Rehstreichler!! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blah:" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />
 
<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />
 
When I fire up build 12 and click new game all im getting is a blank screen all the menus and inventory work and when i press i to reinitialise it does that but nothin else be a workin
 
<!--QuoteBegin-Cap'n Cornish+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Cap'n Cornish)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->When I fire up build 12 and click new game all im getting is a blank screen all the menus and inventory work and when i press i to reinitialise it does that but nothin else be a workin<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Let's jus' name dis de "`Euro-bug`" tew save time! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> Aye, welcome tew de European Black Screen Guild! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" /> Dis be a known problem adaptin' de `US-Version` Mods tew de `non-US` versions. Perhaps a "mod conversion" team should be formed? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /> Any volunteers? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bookish.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":mm" border="0" alt="bookish.gif" />
 
Ah ritey o matey so ne ideas when dis ere `euro-bug` problem be fixed damn that euro gash carnt ye be British versions out there then ye avin no problem made in GB be excerlent. (just kiddin but then i know what the euro's fink of GB) ARGH damn em problems i shud av bought an american version from america rather than be aquiring european version ARGH!

cudn't the modders release a mod that reconstructs the european files into the way that the american ones are constructed this way it wud saven everyone alotta trouble.
 
We're working on it, thanks to needed rum--err, FILE, shipments from Sirus_Darke and Buccanero. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

I think we've found the cause of the _original_ EURO difference, so no need to deal with that #define again (we'll just standardize on one); and we're hot on the trail of what's causing this blackscreen (I hope <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bookish.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":mm" border="0" alt="bookish.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/type_1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":nk" border="0" alt="type_1.gif" /> )
 
I'm still suffering from the Black screen bug that occurs after the main menu flickers on screen for half a second.

I am running the North American version of POTC.

Things I have tried:

Fresh Install
Build 12 (w/ textures)
B12temp.exe

Fresh Install
Build 11 (w/ textures) //had an error downloading extratexture.zip
Build 12 (w/ textures)

Fresh Install
Build 11 (w/o textures)
Build 12 (w/o textures)

Fresh Install
Build 12 (w/o textures)
B12temp.exe

As far as hardware goes I have a:
P4 3.0
TI 4600 GeForce 4
1024 mb of ram
SB Audigy
DirectX 9.0c
Windows Media Player 10
OS: Widows XP home.

My system and compile logs have not changed since my previous post.

If anyone has any other Ideas please let me know.

Just a thought why does the game say "Initializing DirectX 8" when it ships with DirectX 9?? Anyways thanks in advance.
 
Well, I can answer at least _part_ of that (the wrong part, but hey). Namely that it uses DX8-/level/ features of cards. So it uses the DX8 subset of Direct3D 9.0 (or 10, when we finally get to 10). Just like if you're running a GF2 or below, it'll be running `DX7-level` code no matter your real DX version.

Regarding the rest: <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huhh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":eek:k" border="0" alt="huhh.gif" /> we're peering into the murky depths...
 
Addendum. Well, actually addenda, I'm long winded.
I'll be out thanksgivinging the through the end of the weekend, and at _best_ I might have dialup Thursday (but not Fri/Sat). So I'm hoping someone has a brainstorm in the interval, and you can bet I'll be thinking on it when I can, but (sadly) don't expect anything for a bit.
 
I hear you mate. Go eat lots of turkey and drink lots of rum <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" /> and have a great thanksgiving.

You and the rest of the build 12 team have been working hard to put this mod together. You all deserve a break.

My advice, don't give the problem a second thought over thanksgiving. Have a great thanksgiving everybody.
 
NK, like Meethos says, have a good thanksgiving and don't worry.
The modding community has done a great job and nobody could foresee these problems.

Nobody can answer for the results followed out of Disney's greed and impatience.

<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" /> So i wish you a lot of fun and a good celebration <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hi.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":gday" border="0" alt="hi.gif" />
 
Have a good long POTC free rest NK, after all the time modding with the Build and PMT I think taht you deserve a break.


I have a suggestion that may temporarily fix the black screen problem.

Go into the PROGRAM/CONTROLS folder of your POTC installation. Back up or copy to another location the controls.c and init_pc.c files.

Then replace them with your stock files that you should have backed up before installing the Build.
If you don't have these then you can try the ones from my stock POTC installation. I have put them on the PA FTP site in the `Uploads-Downloads` folder and is called "possible Build12 fix.zip"
Put the two zipped files into the folder and start the game.

Please let us know if this does or doesn't work for you.

Like I said this is a temporary fix as I have no idea if there will be other problems with the game from using the older files, I suspect that there could very well be problems.
 
Hey Sirus, I checked the FTP and didn't see the file ("possiblebuild12 fix.zip") there. So if you could perhaps repost it, that would be helpful. After four `re-installs` was impatient and didn't create a back up. If not, no worries I'll just do another `re-install`. Thanks.
 
Well Sirus, I did a fresh install of POTC then installed build 12 w/ textures and did the work around you suggested and I got good news and bad new.

Good news <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> : I no longer have the black screen problem. Yeah!!! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />

Bad news <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":c" border="0" alt="mad.gif" /> : None of the buttons work on the main menu. The main menu also looks like the `in-game` menu. Not sure if this right or due to work around.

On the main menu I have: New Game, Resume Game, Load, Save, Options, About Build 12, Credits, and the Quit buttons. The resume game, load, and save are greyed out. The click button animation works for the rest, but they don't do anything (Not even the quit, had to `alt-tab` out). Oh and the background music is playing.

So if you or anyone else have anymore ideas, let me know, I think were finally moving in the right direction. Thanks.

BTW the new menu looks good though <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />

UPDATE: Ok I was just messing around and used the build12 version of the 'control.c' file and the original version of the 'init_pc.c' file and the game worked!!!

I am only in the beggining of the game, but right away I noticed no sound FX for my sword or pistol, both are mute, with the exception of blocking I get a noise.

But those are minor, I'll let you know if I find anything else wrong, but at least we narrowed it down to the 'init_pc.c file'. Thanks.

UPDATE 2: I fixed the sound issue, it was just two loose connections.
 
Like I said this is only a temporary fix until we can work out what is causing the problems in those files.

I'm not sure that these files would cause problems with sounds, so perhaps you should try this on a clean installation of POTC, then Build 11, then Build 12 and then adding these files.
 
Well, I feel rather sheepish <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" /> . Some of the connections came lose from my sound card so all I was hearing was the center speaker which has only background noise. So um my sound works just fine <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/oops3.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":eek:ops2" border="0" alt="oops3.gif" /> .
 
I've had that happen myself Meethos.


I have now found out which lines are causing the problem so now people who are having the problems can edit the Buidl12 file themselves without causing any major problems with the game and without putting in an obsolete file.

Go into the PROGRAMCONTROLS folder and open up init_pc.c in Notepad or similar editing tool.
Find the following lines
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->CI_CreateAndSetControls( "General", "DCH_Quicksave", CI_GetKeyCode("VK_F5"), 0, false );
CI_CreateAndSetControls( "General", "DCH_Quickload", CI_GetKeyCode("VK_F9"), 0, false );<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And comment them out so they appear like this
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->// CI_CreateAndSetControls( "General", "DCH_Quicksave", CI_GetKeyCode("VK_F5"), 0, false );
// CI_CreateAndSetControls( "General", "DCH_Quickload", CI_GetKeyCode("VK_F9"), 0, false );<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Save the file and start the game, hopefully this will now work OK.

These two lines are for the Quickload/Quicksave mod.
I don't know if it really is these two lines that are causing the problem so some other code that is not run when these lines are commented out could be causing the problem.
I'll leave working that out to someone who is more of a codemonkey then I am, all that I know is that it works for me <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" />

Commenting these lines out will just mean that you can't use dchaley's Quickload or Quicksave, which is unfortunate.
I believe that everything else will work perfectly OK.

Now if you'll excuse me I've got about an hour left and I think that I want to use it to play the game <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
Wow, I hope that works for everyone! Good spotting, <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/keith.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":keith" border="0" alt="keith.gif" /> Sirus!!! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/onya.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="onya.gif" /> Thank you! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":bow" border="0" alt="bow.gif" />
 
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