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Pirates of the Caribbean: Community Prequel Script

nevermind that.

navigation was done in the captain's cabin, and the course wasn't shared with the crew. i'm not sure if it was shared with the officers though, except, obviously, the navigator if there was one. a book i've been reading does explain that the crew would often sneak into the cabin to check the course though. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> or at least in their case.
 
I think things have improved in that respect. Nowadays the ENTIRE crew knows where the ship is going. Perhaps Jack DOES share the destination of the journey with his crew. And perhaps the crew really appreciate that? A bit like the "democracy" thing on pirate ships? Perhaps Edwards is really impressed by that and comes to believe it should also be implemented on other merchant ships other than Jack?
 
it's not a pirate ship yet, mind you. the course should be kept secret for an important reason:

what if there's an enemy spy among the crew? he'd be able to set up a trap for the ship at it's destination port or anywhere in between. i'd think that if jack would share the course, edwards would give him a lecture for doing so.
 
I just gave us somethin' to work on.
Now I'm wondering, is it really a good idea to give Edwards the navigation of the Wench?

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Doesn't this make Jack appear to incompetent? Any captain must be at least adequate in navigation. It is one of a ship's officers' main skills.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
- you got it wrong m8. He's not incompetent, he's lazy.


<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->- I also think that Edwards should tell Jack that he doesn't intend to take over from him, whetever Mercer or Beckett might've led him to believe. After all: Edwards was introduced as if he was going to replace Jack on the smallest sign of ineptitude.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
- ? ?


<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Could be worse<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So that bad, ha? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=225554:date=Dec 12 2007, 06:03 PM:name=Morgan Terror)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Morgan Terror @ Dec 12 2007, 06:03 PM) [snapback]225554[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->it's not a pirate ship yet, mind you.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Probably sailing aboard the Wicked Wench as captained by Jack Sparrow is probably closest to sailing on a pirate ship without actually sailing on a pirate ship. Perhaps we can somehow show Jack's special way of commanding a ship, which is closer to that of pirates than any other merchants would command a ship. Might be an interesting thought.

<!--quoteo(post=225554:date=Dec 12 2007, 06:03 PM:name=Morgan Terror)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Morgan Terror @ Dec 12 2007, 06:03 PM) [snapback]225554[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->i'd think that if jack would share the course, edwards would give him a lecture for doing so.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->That depends on Edwards' character. I imagine him to be the kind of guy to observe before lecturing. Naturally Jack will have a very unconventional way of commanding a ship. Very much the opposite to that of any other merchant ship. But perhaps it makes the crew feel very involved with the ship and has a positive effect on morale. I asked before why would Edwards respect Jack, who is first of all of a lower rank than him and who seems so weird and incompetent on first sight? This could be an answer: Edwards observes and finds that Jack is a person who might be unconventional, but very much knows what he's doing and might actually be right doing so. That could be a good base for Edwards' respect for Jack. Edwards might not agree with Jack, but could still respect him for the way he handles things. Now Jack could respect Edwards because Edwards doesn't base his judgement of Jack on prejudices and what people have told him. Instead he bases his opinion of Jack on what he actually sees himself. That is a rare character trait and one that I think is very much worthy of respect. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=225561:date=Dec 12 2007, 06:40 PM:name=gunsmith)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gunsmith @ Dec 12 2007, 06:40 PM) [snapback]225561[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Now I'm wondering, is it really a good idea to give Edwards the navigation of the Wench?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I came up with that idea, but don't know if it's a good one. I would very much be interested in arguments against it. That's what we need for a good discussion, which again enables us to make the right choice.

<!--quoteo(post=225561:date=Dec 12 2007, 06:40 PM:name=gunsmith)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gunsmith @ Dec 12 2007, 06:40 PM) [snapback]225561[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->- you got it wrong m8. He's not incompetent, he's lazy.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->LOL! Good point! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=225561:date=Dec 12 2007, 06:40 PM:name=gunsmith)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gunsmith @ Dec 12 2007, 06:40 PM) [snapback]225561[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->- I also think that Edwards should tell Jack that he doesn't intend to take over from him, whetever Mercer or Beckett might've led him to believe. After all: Edwards was introduced as if he was going to replace Jack on the smallest sign of ineptitude.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->- ? ?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->The reason why Edwards is on this voyage is because Beckett needs someone aboard to take over command of the ship if Jack doesn't do what he wants him to do. Mercer is on the voyage to check if Jack does what Beckett wants him to do. Edwards is officially of a higher rank than Jack. So Jack would naturally be uneasy with his presence aboard in the same way he is uneasy about Mercer being there. Edwards would probably be quick to notice this and might want to reassure Jack that he has no wish of taking over from Jack and would only do so when instructed by Mercer and for a very good reason. Something like that anyway. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=225561:date=Dec 12 2007, 06:40 PM:name=gunsmith)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gunsmith @ Dec 12 2007, 06:40 PM) [snapback]225561[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So that bad, ha? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->In one word: No. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" />
 
i dunno. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /> with mercer around, it would seem to me that edwards would like to keep his job. at least mercer might give him a lecture on it.
 
EXT. WICKED WENCH IN THE ATLANTIC - DAY

THE SHIP IS SAILING ALONG WHEN SMOKE IS SEEN IN THE
DISTANCE, AND A SHIP IS SEEN ANCHORED WITH A LARGE EITC FLAG
WAVING IN THE WIND. THE WENCH APPROACHES, AND MERCER MAKES
SURE JACK RUNS UP THE COLORS. A SMOKING WRECK OF A PIRATE
BRIG IS SLOWLY SINKING BENEATH THE WAVES. CREW FROM THE EITC
SHIP ARE ALL OUT IN THE WATER IN BOATS.


JACK
What in the devil happened here?



MERCER
Pirates. Scum. Its a good riddance
with less of them in this world.



JACK
(His eyes
transfixed on a
pirate flag
floating in the
water.)
Pirates? There's no proof of that.



MERCER
(Annoyed)
You're staring right at their
flag. Now quit lolly gaging and
run out the boats.



JACK
(Mutters)
I ought to gag you.
(Shouting)
Alright chaps, run out the little
dingies and assist our friends out
in their little dingies, savvy?


THE BOATS ARE LOWERED AND THE CREWS ROW OUT TO THE WRECK.


MERCER
(Shouting)
I want every marine in a boat to
shoot every floating corpse to
make sure they're dead.



16.


THE MARINES SHOOT THE BODIES, MOST ARE ALREADY DEAD, BUT
SOME START SCREAMING AND SWIMMING FRANTICALLY AWAY UPON
HEARING THE ORDER, THEY ARE CUT DOWN.


JACK
(Severe look of
stress on his
face. He
obviously feels
sorry for the
pirates.)



NATHANIEL
(ALSO AFFECTED BY
THE RUTHLESS
KILLING. HAS A
LOOK OF CONCERN
ON HIS FACE.)
Better to die by a bullet, then by
perishing at sea. Sharks, hunger,
thirst a painful death for them.



JACK
Yes, of course.


CAMERA PANS TO SUNSET.



FADE OUT.

Here's another little important scene. It further sparks Jacks interest to decide to be a pirate. Please elaborate on it, its a bit short.
 
VERY interesting idea! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=225527:date=Dec 12 2007, 10:36 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Dec 12 2007, 10:36 AM) [snapback]225527[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=225482:date=Dec 12 2007, 05:01 AM:name=Old Salt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Old Salt @ Dec 12 2007, 05:01 AM) [snapback]225482[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yes, and remember, only Jack could coax the speed out of her sails. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I was thinking about that. That would make sense as the reason why Beckett kept Jack employed. But obviously the Pearl was just as fast under captain Barbossa. And Will wanted to have the Pearl to be able to save his father because the Pearl is the fastest ship in the Caribbean and is thus the only ship that would be a match for the Flying Dutchman. However, if only Jack can coax the speed out of her sails, the ship would do Will no good. Any thoughts on that one? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, I always thought (with no evidence of course to back up my theory) that the Pearle was as quick as it was under Barbossa because of the supernatural aura that surrounded it being that Barbossa and his crew were damned. Somehow their curse rubbed off on the ship if that makes any sense. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wacko:" border="0" alt="wacko.gif" />
One example in support of that theory is that the Pearle never seems to be damaged to the point that it would sink when Barbossa and his crew had it. Was it unsinkable because they were damned? Did their curse also include the ship?
 
<!--quoteo(post=225527:date=Dec 12 2007, 10:36 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Dec 12 2007, 10:36 AM) [snapback]225527[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=225492:date=Dec 12 2007, 10:34 AM:name=gunsmith)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gunsmith @ Dec 12 2007, 10:34 AM) [snapback]225492[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->BTW. sorry if my english is bad...or my english frazes<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Could be worse. At least we can understand you, which is the main point of communication. When rewriting the script, we can rid ourselves of the spelling errors in there.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Agreed, Gun, your english is good enough. Don't let that hinder you from sharing your ideas. The script can always be corrected as Pieter stated.
 
<!--quoteo(post=225651:date=Dec 12 2007, 08:20 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Dec 12 2007, 08:20 PM) [snapback]225651[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Thats a good point Old Salt, it may very well have rubbed onto the ship.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's what I always assumed, Mercer. I'll comment on your latest installment in a bit. Lots of ideas brewing lately. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />
 
Ahoy!

Mercer, a gret scene you have there. Very good idea. I can totaly see it.

About Edwards and navigation... I don't think it's good becouse Edwards is a higher rank than Jand he is there just to make sure that everything goes well. It's not his duty to navigate. I guess he did a lot of navigating before getting his rank. Let's just leave it.

So now for the voyage to Africa.

We have:
- dinner scene
- the night conversation scene
- doldrums scene
- this new one that Mercer wrote.
- and maybe the Land ho! scene.

I think that is enough.
Now we just have to put 'em all together.
Although I do not now in which order.

_____________________
 
Edwards is of a higher rank, but works as Jack's second in command during this trip. He'd need to be given something to do, right? Mercer is already there to check on Jack doing what the Company wants. I think Edwards would work just like any other officer would. I can't see a person like Edwards just staying aboard as a passenger without actually doing something useful.

As for the Black Pearl's speed: So she became fast after being cursed? After the curse was lifted, I don't think she became slow again. So that'd explain why she's fast in DMC and AWE as well and why Will still wants her. When Jack would want to escape the EITC fleet at the end of our film, it'd also help if his ship were fast. So then we could assume that the ship becoming fast happened when Davy Jones lifted her from the sea bottom. Perhaps the Wicked Wench was the fastest ship or her class and only Jack could coax the speed out of her sails, as suggested. But then when the ship was raised from her watery grave, Davy Jones made her somewhat supernatural, increasing her speed even further. Perhaps Davy Jones did this to make the ship very sought-after, knowing that it could make Jack lose his ship, like it did. That'd be mean. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" />
 
So how should Jack give him the navigation?
Just offre it to him as I wrote aor womething else?

I think that Wench was a very fast ship but Davy made him even faster....supernatural faster. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

What do you say about scenes for the trip to Africa?
Are those five all we need?
 
I think that Jack and Edwards would be rather uneasy with each other at first, as I explained before. So I think that we should try to explain how this uneasiness goes away and they get to like each other. I originally had the idea of Jack is his office on the first sea day and Edwards knocking on the door. He wants to explain to Jack that he does not intend to cause any trouble (read: take over from Jack), so that comforts Jack a bit. Edwards might catch Jack in his messed up attempts of doing navigation as described by you, so then Jack could either offer or order Edwards to do it or Edwards might suggests that he could do it, seeing that Jack is having some difficulty with it. Imagine Edwards saying to Jack "I could give you a hand with that, if you like." and Jack replying "You know what? You can do it all!" <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/piratesing.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shock" border="0" alt="piratesing.gif" />

Probably those five scenes are just about all we need. Of course we can extend the entire voyage to last the length of an entire film, but we need to get our pieces into place relatively quickly to get to the "meat" of the story. We don't want to lose the audience with a too long and drawn-out beginning to the film, of course. I think we should have arrived in Africa where the first action scene (capture of the villagers) will take place within the first half our of the film, preferrably within the first 20 minutes. That's a lot of set-up to cover in such a short amount of time, so we should convey as much obvious and non-obvious information required for the rest of the film into those first scenes as possible. So perhaps we could elaborate on some of the character relations a bit more in the scenes prior to the arrival in Africa, but preferrably without requiring a lot of screentime.

As for the Wench and Pearl's speeds: I think that sounds about right. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />
 
How is this for a general outline of the film with the goals for each part of the film?

<!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><i><b>London scenes and Jack's arrival</b></i><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->
Introducing characters:
- Jack Sparrow: Somewhat rogue captain in the employ of the EITC. Always late on his shipments, even though he has the fastest ship in the fleet. Goes on his own errands during his work for the EITC.
- Cutler Beckett: Head of the EITC, obsessed with power and financial gain.
- Mercer: Does Beckett's nasty work.
- Nathaniel Edwards: Post Captain in the employ of the EITC. Good man, but loyal to the EITC.

Setting up the story:
- Beckett sends Jack on a voyage to Africa.
- Mercer goes along on the voyage to check Jack does what Beckett wants him to.
- Edwards goes along on the voyage to take over from Jack in case Jack doesn't do what Beckett wants him to.

<!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><i><b>Voyage to Africa</b></i><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->
Setting up character relations under normal circumstances.
- Mercer being an intrusive character and scary character.
- Jack and Edwards being uneasy with each other's presence, but growing towards each other during the journey.

<!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><i><b>Africa</b></i><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->
Introducing characters:
- Tia Dalma: Strange voodoo sorceress.

Setting up the story:
- Capture of the villagers.

Foreshadowing:
- Tia Dalma having something to do with Jack's future.

Cool and fun stuff:
- Action scene of Mercer (and possibly Edwards) leading Jack's crew to capture the villagers.

<!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><i><b>Voyage to the Caribbean</b></i><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->
Character development under more pressurized circumstances.
- Jack is not happy with his cargo; wonders whether to go through with it.
- Mercer is his usual nasty self, though Jack is being more defiant.
- Edwards is friendly and understanding to Jack, but remains loyal to the EITC and thinks Jack should stay loyal as well.

<!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><i><b>Jack's Turn to Piracy</b></i><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->
Introducing characters:
- French captain: Gentleman-like pirate who proposes Jack and him to work together on a profitable venture.

Stressing character relationships to breaking point:
- Jack agrees to work together with the French pirate to find the Mayan treasure in Mexico.
- Edwards and Mercer are betrayed by Jack: villagers are set free, Edwards and Mercer are left behind in Nassau.
- Jack and Edwards remain friendly, but are now on opposing sides, Jack turning to piracy, Edwards remaining loyal to the EITC.

Foreshadowing:
- Jack hearing the "real" story of the Flying Dutchman in Nassau

Cool and fun stuff:
- Action scene of the fight between the Wicked Wench and the French pirate's ship, subsequent boarding and duel between Jack and the French captain.
- Sacking of Nassau without even firing a shot.

<!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><i><b>Mexico Treasure Hunt</b></i><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->
Cool and fun stuff:
- Jack pretending to be a cleric of the Church of England and imposing as an officer of the Royal Spanish Navy.
- Treasure hunt in the jungle.
- Possible action scene involving indians and/or Spanish soldiers.

Foreshadowing:
- Treasure is not there. Jack learns of the curse of the treasure.

<!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><i><b>Voyage to Indonesia:</b></i><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->
Foreshadowing:
- Sighting of the Flying Dutchman when rounding the Cape of Good Hope.

<!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><i><b>Jack setting up EITC vs VOC:</b></i><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->
Cool and fun stuff:
- Siege of Batavia

<!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><i><b>Jack's Deal with Jones:</b></i><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->
Introducing characters:
- Davy Jones: Captain of the Flying Dutchman, not appearing quite cursed yet.

Character relations:
- Jack having his ship burnt and sunk by Edwards.
- Jack's deal with Davy.

<!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><i><b>Escape from Indonesia:</b></i><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->
Character relations:
- The end of Edwards.
- Beckett losing a lot of ships.

Cool and fun stuff:
- Final battle.

Foreshadowing:
- Jack hiring his crew in Tortuga prior to Barbossa's mutiny.
 
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