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Pirates of the Caribbean: Community Prequel Script

Good outline, Pieter, be sure to link that up if you haven't already. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" /> As for the Pearle's speed, I would say that after the curse was removed with Barbossa's demise, that the Pearle was still fast because Jack was now sailing her. But I like that explanation of Jone's bewitching her if you will after she was resurrected and that's the reason for her blazing speed. Maybe that's the way we should go. It would also explain why she can't seem to be sunk.
 
<!--quoteo(post=225714:date=Dec 13 2007, 03:32 PM:name=gunsmith)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gunsmith @ Dec 13 2007, 03:32 PM) [snapback]225714[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Refresh my memory....why is he going to Indonesia?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Jack is angry with Beckett. Probably because of Beckett branding him a pirate, which means there is no way back for Jack to a "quiet" life. Also Jack wouldn't be very happy with this villager transport that he was having to do. So Jack intends to mess up relations between the EITC and VOC in Indonesia, causing Beckett a substantial loss. This will be the mark that he has left on Beckett. Jack made Beckett look like a fool and got him to lose a lot of ships and assets.

<!--quoteo(post=225716:date=Dec 13 2007, 03:37 PM:name=Old Salt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Old Salt @ Dec 13 2007, 03:37 PM) [snapback]225716[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->As for the Pearle's speed, I would say that after the curse was removed with Barbossa's demise, that the Pearle was still fast because Jack was now sailing her.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->In that case the Pearl would do Will no good in AWE.

<!--quoteo(post=225716:date=Dec 13 2007, 03:37 PM:name=Old Salt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Old Salt @ Dec 13 2007, 03:37 PM) [snapback]225716[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It would also explain why she can't seem to be sunk.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->What do you make of this conversation between Jack and Norrington in CotBP?
<b>Jack:</b> If I may be so bold as to inject my professional opinion. The Pearl was listing near to scuppers after the battle. It's very unlikely she'll be able to make good time. Think about it. The Black Pearl. The last real pirate threat in the Caribbean, mate. How can you pass that up?
<b>Norrington:</b> By remembering that I serve others, Mr. Sparrow, not only myself.
 
How about this?
1) Dinner scene
2) First talk between Jack and Edwards
3) Night conversation scene
4) The new one that Mercer wrote
5) Doldrums scene
6) The end of voyage scene

A "land ho" scene doesn't entirely make sense, because as can be seen on the map I made, this voyage never strays too far away from land. Mercer's scene could also play out before the <i>night conversation</i> scene. Perhaps then Jack and Edwards could talk about what had just happened. Also there'll need some voyage montage shots inbetween. The doldrums scene could be part of a voyage montage.
 
Thread Index updated. Added:
<a href="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=10925&view=findpost&p=225197" target="_blank">Pieter Voyage Map</a>
<a href="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=10925&view=findpost&p=225492" target="_blank">Gunsmith After Dinner Scene</a>
<a href="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=10925&view=findpost&p=225631" target="_blank">Mercer Sunk Pirate Ship Scene</a>
<a href="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=10925&view=findpost&p=225711" target="_blank">Pieter Film Outline</a>
 
two things:

Will wouldn't know that only jack would get the speed out of the sails.

jack was trying to fool norrington into a suicidal attack.
 
Good outline Pieter!!! Thorough enough. We can add little snippets like my scene with the pirate ship. I also like that idea of Edwards telling Jack he intends to do nothing bad to him on the first day. I could add that to the script.

Pieter about that "Pearl listing at the scuppers" think, i think Jack, as usual was twisting belivable things to have Norrington be a distraction which will enable Jack to take command of the Pearl, he did it for Norringtons aid, not to actually tell that she was listing at the scuppers. And they would have made good time to have arrived before the Dauntless.
 
<!--quoteo(post=225721:date=Dec 13 2007, 09:56 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Dec 13 2007, 09:56 AM) [snapback]225721[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=225716:date=Dec 13 2007, 03:37 PM:name=Old Salt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Old Salt @ Dec 13 2007, 03:37 PM) [snapback]225716[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->As for the Pearle's speed, I would say that after the curse was removed with Barbossa's demise, that the Pearle was still fast because Jack was now sailing her.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->In that case the Pearl would do Will no good in AWE.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Good point, which is why I like the Jones angle on this.

<!--quoteo(post=225721:date=Dec 13 2007, 09:56 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Dec 13 2007, 09:56 AM) [snapback]225721[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=225716:date=Dec 13 2007, 03:37 PM:name=Old Salt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Old Salt @ Dec 13 2007, 03:37 PM) [snapback]225716[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It would also explain why she can't seem to be sunk.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->What do you make of this conversation between Jack and Norrington in CotBP?
<b>Jack:</b> If I may be so bold as to inject my professional opinion. The Pearl was listing near to scuppers after the battle. It's very unlikely she'll be able to make good time. Think about it. The Black Pearl. The last real pirate threat in the Caribbean, mate. How can you pass that up?
<b>Norrington:</b> By remembering that I serve others, Mr. Sparrow, not only myself.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I agree with Mercer on that. It does seem that the Pearle was unbeatable for that period where the crew was damned. It would have been interesting if Barbossa and his crew had run into the Flying Dutchman while they were cursed. Who would win?
 
<!--quoteo(post=225747:date=Dec 13 2007, 12:40 PM:name=Morgan Terror)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Morgan Terror @ Dec 13 2007, 12:40 PM) [snapback]225747[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->two things:

Will wouldn't know that only jack would get the speed out of the sails.

jack was trying to fool norrington into a suicidal attack.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That could be an explanation. It would be one of the movies hidden secrets that is an open secret in our prequel. Only Jack can coax the speed out of the Pearle.
 
<!--quoteo(post=225631:date=Dec 12 2007, 05:11 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Dec 12 2007, 05:11 PM) [snapback]225631[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->JACK
(Severe look of
distress on his
face. He
obviously feels
sorry for the
pirates.)



NATHANIEL
(ALSO AFFECTED BY
THE RUTHLESS
KILLING. HAS A
LOOK OF CONCERN
ON HIS FACE.)
Better to die by a bullet, then by
perishing at sea. Sharks, hunger,
thirst a painful death for them.



JACK
(WITHOUT CONVICTION)
Yes, of course.



MERCER
(STARING AT JACK WITH A TROUBLED LOOK)




CAMERA PANS TO SUNSET.



FADE OUT.

Here's another little important scene. It further sparks Jacks interest to decide to be a pirate. Please elaborate on it, its a bit short.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I like this scene as well, Mercer, its a nice transition scene for Jack. How about though having Mercer pick up on Jack's sympathies a bit more, and being disturbed about it. We could have the scene fade to black with Mercer staring at Jack with distrust.
 
1) Dinner scene
2) First talk between Jack and Edwards
3) Night conversation scene
4) The new one that Mercer wrote
5) Doldrums scene
6) The end of voyage scene

Seems good.
How 'bout switching the 4 and 5.
Or put 'em together.
There's like... no wind...and they hear DUM DUM DUM (barely).
And Jack sees smoke with his spyglas. etc.

Just a thought.
 
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->PANS TO SPARROWS FACE. THE BRASS ON HIS SONG PICKS UP. SHOWS
HIM SMILING LOOKING INTO THE DISTANCE. HE STANDS ON THE
BOWSPRIT. CAMERA PANS ALONG THE SIDE OF SHIP. MUSIC STOPS
ABRUPTLY WITH A DRUM ROLL WHEN CAMERA SEES AN EITC FLAG
FLOWING IN THE WIND.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Was there a spyglass-camera moment here?
Or I missed it? I think it was written different?
 
I had some new ideas. What about the Mercer-equivalent of the <i>"Are we there yet?"</i> scene? Mercer keeps asking Jack how far the voyage has progressed. This would serve as a voyage montage and the audience could actually follow the voyage on Jack's map. Also it could be made to be really funny. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />

Also: When the French pirate ship is sighted on the way to the Caribbean, Mercer tells Jack "You know what to do", referring to the scene earlier where Mercer ordered the pirates in the water to be shot. Jack, now being much more defiant, replies: "Yes. I know what you want me to do." Of course he then doesn't do it. After the fight, Mercer asks Jack why the pirates are still alive and we then get a fun scene where the roles are being reversed. Jack tells Mercer that HE, not Mercer, is captain of the ship and Mercer is at <i>his</i> mercy now. Edwards is aboard the other ship, so that Mercer has no easy way of contacting him. Mercer cannot captain the ship and the crew is loyal to Jack. Jack clearly enjoys this and puts Mercer in the brig afterwards. Edwards doesn't know of this, of course, because he's on the other ship. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" />


<!--quoteo(post=225866:date=Dec 14 2007, 06:58 PM:name=gunsmith)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gunsmith @ Dec 14 2007, 06:58 PM) [snapback]225866[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->How 'bout switching the 4 and 5.
Or put 'em together.
There's like... no wind...and they hear DUM DUM DUM (barely).
And Jack sees smoke with his spyglas. etc.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->The doldrums scene must be very close to their final destination, because they're found around the equator in the Intertropical Convergence Zone:
<img src="http://library.thinkquest.org/5818/images/mvmt1.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" /> <img src="http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/furniture/in_depth/other_sports/2001/volvo_ocean_race/route_map2_13.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
So I would expect it to be one of the last scenes before landfall in Africa. As for merging the scenes together: The fight would appear on the horizon, but without any wind, it would take forever for the Wench to actually get there. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
Yep, last scene is good. I think that the doldrums should be very very short. Because thats where my attention span ended in Master and Commander. They milked it WAAAY too much. We should have Jack getting mad with the heat and talking to himself about crazy things. I would say a 2-3 minute doldrums scene.
 
That might even be quite long already. If each scene lasts about 2-3 minutes, we're going to have a pretty slow start to our film. After all: We have about 10 scenes before the arrival in Africa, so 10 scenes * 2,5 minutes (average) = 25 minutes. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
Show less of the voyage, they are a MAJOR attention loss to the audience, where we see a ship just sailin along. Where's the fun in that? Something needs to happen, storm, doldrums. Something interesting.
 
The showing of the voyage only need to be a couple of shots. A transitional shot between the various dialog scenes can take less than a minute. A voyage montage for longer periods of time could be a minute.
 
<!--quoteo(post=225935:date=Dec 15 2007, 07:21 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Dec 15 2007, 07:21 AM) [snapback]225935[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I had some new ideas. What about the Mercer-equivalent of the <i>"Are we there yet?"</i> scene? Mercer keeps asking Jack how far the voyage has progressed. This would serve as a voyage montage and the audience could actually follow the voyage on Jack's map. Also it could be made to be really funny. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Are you talking about a map being shown on the screen (sort of like in an Indiana Jones movie) while we hear Mercer's voice constantly asking if they are there yet?
 
Hmmm.... I dont think that would go with pirates, lets just see jack pinpointing different locations at different times and we see him do this, so we can see the progressing voyage. Because if we do the indiana jones thing the critics are going to have a field day.
 
Make good use of helicopter shots. Show Jack measuring out a course with his dividers. The camera moves in and starts to "fly" along over the map. We see a series of islands on the map that become the real thing as the shot morphs into a flying shot over them. The lines of laditude and longitude against parchment giving way to sparkling water rushing past gives the audience a sense of momentum and keeps things moving. We could also really use some good Hans Zimmer/Klaus Baldet music to help out.
 
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