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Devil's island

Screwface, hmmmmm.

If the "_back" is where you go, what´s the other one doing?

I still don´t get why there has to be two locators sometimes but not always.

ex: Conc. smuggl_lair_xit
reload3 has no corresponding reload3_back

Now, where can we DOWNLOAD?
 
Yes, it seems you're right.

In most cases, when there is a "_back" is defined, the code is similar that in the normal "no back locator".

example :

Locations[n].id = "QC_Pirate_house";
.... bla bla bla

Locations[n].reload.l1.name = "reload1";
Locations[n].reload.l1.go = "QC_town_exit";
Locations[n].reload.l1.emerge = "reload3"; //you go here
Locations[n].reload.l1.autoreload = "1";
Locations[n].reload.l1.label = "Jungle.";

Locations[n].reload.l3.name = "reload1_back";
Locations[n].reload.l3.go = "QC_town_exit";
Locations[n].reload.l3.emerge = "reload3";
Locations[n].reload.l3.autoreload = "1";
Locations[n].locators_radius.reload.reload1_back = 3.0;
Locations[n].reload.l3.label = "Jungle.";

..... bla bla

in the arrival :

Locations[n].id = "QC_town_exit";
...bla...bla...bla

Locations[n].reload.l3.name = "Reload3";
Locations[n].reload.l3.go = "QC_Pirate_House";
Locations[n].reload.l3.emerge = "reload1"; // you return in reload1 at QC_Pirate_House
Locations[n].reload.l3.autoreload = "1";
Locations[n].reload.l3.label = "House.";
Locations[n].locators_radius.reload.reload3 = 3.0;

Locations[n].reload.l5.name = "Reload3_back";
Locations[n].reload.l5.go = "QC_Pirate_House";
Locations[n].reload.l5.emerge = "reload1";
Locations[n].reload.l5.autoreload = "1";
Locations[n].reload.l5.label = "House.";
Locations[n].locators_radius.reload.Reload3_back = 2.0;

bla..bla...

i don't know exactly for what the "_back" locator is but it has the same code that the "normal" locator. I respected this principle in my KR mod and it works.

Screwface.

Note : you can download on the ftp server in the upload - download folder.
 
screwface, it just depends what the locator happens to be called in that location. in the QC pirate house there may be a locator called "Reload3_back" but in other locations they have different names.
 
You need those "back" locators if you use a reload locator with autoreload = "1". (which means it automatically teleports you as soon as you step on it, e.g. between jungles and open townquarters)

Usually you emerge on the same locator where you leave a location. That wouldn't work with autoreload locators: you would be automatically teleported back if you emerged on an autoreload.

Therefore Akella made seperate "emerge" and "leave" locators which are positioned a little bit apart.
Hope I was able to explain what I mean, sounds a bit confusing...

BTW, did some experiments with shorelocations, and all led to the same crash you had.
Tried almost everything, even cloning Oxbay port into Oxbay_port2, or using the Muelle_passage which has no connection to the sea (i.e. your ship), or setting .seashore ="false"

Seems like this crash has nothing to do loacators or anything in the code but is shoremodel related <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />
 
And have you some knowledges about the items locators ?
Is it possible to transform an randitem locator in a box locator ? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mellow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":|" border="0" alt="mellow.gif" />
 
Screwface,
I've said it before, I'll say it again; The Devil's Island mod is `ab-so`-f*`ck-in`-`lute-ly` brilliant!

I had no trouble installing the game, starting with a clean reinstall. I will try it on my other computer that already has saved games on it and let you know if I encounter any problems. (But I doubt that there will be any. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/onya.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="onya.gif" /> )

I especially liked the new loading screens that you added for Devil's Island and the Secret Hideout.

In all, <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" />
should just about cover it. Great work!

You are mistaken regarding your English, it is fine and does the job perfectly, however, per your earlier request, I went ahead and rewrote some of the dialog in KR_crewmember.h and then pasted it into the new dialog notepad and it worked. I am not sure how to send the notepad to you, but I think that people can actually copy it from here and then paste it into the game notepad, making a copy first, and it should work.

string DLG_TEXT[26] = {
"Aye Cap'n, and how many days will we be `a-stayin`' ashore ?",
"1 day, no need for more than a quick stop on this trip. Pass the word along to the lads.",
"5 days will be plenty. Don't want you boys to go losing your sea legs!",
"No time to lose, we sail with the tide. Be sure to keep Screwface away from the grog!.",
"Aye Captain",
". The secret of Devil's Island is still safe, Captain. This island is still a good snug berth where we can repair our ship.",
"Aye matey",
"!",
", ",
". If we have planks and sailcloth, we can spend a few days ashore here to make repairs",
".",
"Well, what's your orders, Captain, ",
"?",
"Captain, We be `a-waitin`' for orders. Shall I pipe to all hands?",
"Good ! we'll hull here a few days to make repairs to our ship.",
"",
"Stand at ease, matey.",
"Yes Captain ? Do we have planks and sailcloth to repair our ship ? ",
"And how many days will ye be wantin' to stay, for repairs and all, sir?",
"Well",
", perhaps we could spend a few days here.",
"",
".",
"Not now mate, if you please!",
"10 days lads, that should give us time to reprovision the ship with water and make some light repairs.",
"A month should be plenty of time to careen the ship's hull, and lay some tar, tallow, sulphur and glass to keep off the teredo worms. Be sure to set lookouts for enemy ships.",

};

Let me know if you want me to make any changes to this, I think for your copy you might change where I put, "Screwface" with either "Kieron" or "Mings", because you can usually find me trying to break into to the grog, and I wouldn't be surprised to find that Kieron can be found in the same place.
<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" />
Can't say it enough, Great work! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
Capo, Screwface has it up on the FTP:

<a href="ftp://files%40piratesahoy.net:piratesahoy@ftp.piratesahoy.net/" target="_blank">ftp://files%40piratesahoy.net:piratesahoy...iratesahoy.net/</a>

Check it out! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/keith.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":keith" border="0" alt="keith.gif" />
 
Alright, Mings me matey! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />

Fred Bob done be installin' in addition tew de FBQ...

1) Ship Berthing and Custom Sails by Kieron an'

2) New Khael Roa Mod by screwface

Does Fred Bob be a needin' tew start him a new game or kin he be a tryin' an' old one, matey? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /> Please be a tellin' ol' Fred Bob 'cause he be a gittin' an itch tew discover new Nutty Thangs! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Does Fred Bob be a needin' tew start him a new game or kin he be a tryin' an' old one, matey?  Please be a tellin' ol' Fred Bob 'cause he be a gittin' an itch tew discover new Nutty Thangs!  <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

You should only need to hit "i" to reinitialize, Fred Bob, the trouble we were having earlier involved being able to start a new game, and you should be all set to discover many new Nutty Thangs, but even better, KR has been expanded to about 3 times it's original size.
<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" />
 
<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="cheers.gif" />:
Thanks for your new dialog text. It is really more "pirate style" than mine and mind remain the same. I indeed "adopted" it and everybody should also do it ! (because my english is a calamity sometimes)
Thanks again for your help SirChristopherMings. I learn every day in this forum. Collaboration and help are amazing here ! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hi.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":gday" border="0" alt="hi.gif" />

Screwface !
 
Well now you're just making me blush! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blush.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":eek:ops" border="0" alt="blush.gif" />:

Great work, again, Screwface! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
Nicely done mod so far! Good werk, Screwface an' Mings! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="cheers.gif" />: Fred Bob be loadin' up a `pre-Temple` KR savegame an' toured de island improvements! Noticed ye kin wiggle yer way back out o' Maze now if'n ye likes! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="8)" border="0" alt="cool.gif" />

After sinkin' de BP, though, Fred Bob tried an' tried an' could not land on KR agin! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

So... after ye be sinkin' de Black Pearl, are ye supposed tew be able tew still land at KR or no? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /> Jus' be a wonderin'... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />
 
Yes, you can land there now, I think that's been the whole point of this mod...

Can't wait to get into it, been fiddling about with PotC so much lately I decided to do a fresh clean install and `re-install` the Build and other mods... Cleaning off my hard drive, moving files, backing up files... Takes time... Between that and working on my own mods and adding a new hard drive, I've had scant time to mess with any new mods. BUT I am really looking forward to seeing what you've accomplished here!

WTG!!! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" /> Screwface <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" /> SirChristopherMings <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" /> and EVERYONE who has contributed to this wonderful mod! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_praise.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":bow" border="0" alt="icon_praise.gif" />
 
Thank you CouchcaptainCharles, I got that about the _back locators now.

Screwface, with install new KR, load savegame, reinit everything is OK.

With install new KR, load savegame, reinit, I don´t ever meet those repairmen and only the first new logo,(dev isl) is there.

Another thing: the new KR_Reinit file was very easy to understand! Now I can get my own additions to work. (Needed a QC_Reinit).

YES, the new KR Island is a very nice place to go and I think the new logos fine.
 
<!--`QuoteBegin-Jack` Rackham+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jack Rackham)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Thank you CouchcaptainCharles, I got that about the _back locators now.

With install new KR, load savegame, reinit, I don´t ever meet those repairmen and only the first new logo,(dev isl) is there.

Another thing: the new KR_Reinit file was very easy to understand! Now I can get my own additions to work. (Needed a QC_Reinit).

YES, the new KR Island is a very nice place to go and I think the new logos fine.[/quote]

The Crew members are walking inside the secret Hideout after the cavern.
You didn't see them ?

I tried to comment my KR_Reinit file of the best that I could and i hope it will help you for your QC mod. I'm impatient to see it mate !

Thanks everybody ! All the things i puted in the mod, i've learnt them by reading and reading all the posts of the community in this forum ! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="cheers.gif" />:

Screwface.
 
<!--`QuoteBegin-Screwface`+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Screwface)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And have you some knowledges about the items locators ?
Is it possible to transform an randitem locator in a box locator ? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mellow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":|" border="0" alt="mellow.gif" />[/quote]

I can not change the locators themselves, cause I have no modeling knowledge. But what the game does once the player steps on a locator is in the `C-code`, so we can change almost everything. (even sadistic things like minefields: just code something like "if player steps on lctr x run boxexplosionfunction" <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dev.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":d:" border="0" alt="dev.gif" /> )
I put an example on how to make rld locators work like reload locators in my Locationcloningtutorial (see Wiki thread) The code for box and randitem lctrs is in the same files, so you should be able to make ANY locator work like a box or randitem.
HTH, if further explanations are needed feel free to ask <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

And, as I said, if you have anything to add or correct in the tutorial, given your experience with KR modding, please do so.
 
<!--`QuoteBegin-SirChristopherMings`+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SirChristopherMings)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Let me know if you want me to make any changes to this, I think for your copy you might change where I put, "Screwface" with either "Kieron" or "Mings", because you can usually find me trying to break into to the grog, and I wouldn't be surprised to find that Kieron can be found in the same place.
<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" /> [/quote]

<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
<b><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Originally Posted by Fred Bob
After sinkin' de BP, though, Fred Bob tried an' tried an' could not land on KR agin!  

So... after ye be sinkin' de Black Pearl, are ye supposed tew be able tew still land at KR or no?  Jus' be a wonderin'...  <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--></b>

Fred Bob, per the Read Me, Kr gets disabled during the main quest, but a reinit brings it back. ( I'm thinking if you do a reinit after you talk to Brin in Redmond so the entire quest is completed, KR should be back.) I have an old save game from just before entering the inca temple and I sank the pearl and couldn't get back into KR either, but I didn't go to Brin and I'm thinking that the disable is still in effect until the main quest is completed. I'll give this a try tonight and see if this theory holds water.

<b><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Originally posted by Jack Rackham:  
With install new KR, load savegame, reinit, I don´t ever meet those repairmen and only the first new logo,(dev isl) is there.  <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--></b>

I ran across a similar result in the save game that I was using to test getting onto and back off of KR; I get the Devil's Island logo screen, but then it takes me right to the Inca Temple, skipping the Jungles and caves. To my thinking this is could be because of all of the work that I've done on this particular game, but I get the same result even after doing a reinstall. I used the method of installing the Devil's Island mod without having installed Kieron's Ship berthing mod on this computer. I'll see if i can figure this out. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mellow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":|" border="0" alt="mellow.gif" />
However, in another save game, one where I haven't completed the main quest, it works perfectly. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
Haven't run into any problems starting a new game either, but I'll do some more testing and see if I run into any bugs.
<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />
 
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