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Solved Game won't play. (Different issues)

Jolly_Pirate

Jolly_Pirate

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I have the PoTC game disks, installed the game, and it works fine. (running windows 7/ 64)

I downloaded build 14 3 full and the installer, put both in a folder on desktop, and installed the game in my documents/my games.
When I click the installer and install to the My Games folder where the game is installed, it installs there fine, but when I looked in the folder, most of the files have a locked icon on them.

I changed folder permissions to make sure I had full control, but that didn't change anything.
When I try to launch the game, the New Horizons launcher comes up with Storm Engine 2 at the top left to load everything before launching the game, but it doesn't do anything......it just sits there.
I rebooted and tried again, but to the same result. It just sits there, and the game never launches.

I ran a search on the forum before posting, I didn't see this issue listed.
Thanks in advance for any and all help.

On a side note, I have downloaded the Build 14 Beta 3 from around 4 of the mirrors, and every single one has had thousands (yes thousands) of errors when I extract files to a folder.
The latest one I am unpacking now (mirror 3) has 15,939 errors so far and it's not even finished yet.

Another note: I unpacked the Beta 3 full and did a drag and drop overwrite in the game folder to see if that works.....if not, I'll try the installer again after that. Will update.
 
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Update: I tried overwriting dragging and dropping the unpacked Beta 3 full into the game folder and launching the game after, and the same issue remains.
The launcher comes up, and just sits there. The game never even tries to start.
(I am running as admin, and have tried compatibility mode for windows 7 and windows XP)
 
Another update.....after installing everything, the problem of not launching continued. I looked at the Engine.ini.....and it's blank. There is no text in it.
I replaced it with the stock Engine.ini from the stock PoTC I have saved on an external drive (to speed up starting over without having to install with disks again) but then it had an error saying "abnormal program termination"
 
:ahoy mate!

It sounds like you did not read the instructions fully. Don't worry, it's a guy thing. guys never read instructions. :napoleon

Fist off, NEVER install POTC into program files. Windows security blocks the mods from running. You even noticed how the files are locked.

Next, you did not install the mod correctly. There is no need to unpack anything. The installer method used is very common and many other mods use it.

1. Create a folder somewhere safe.
2. Download the Build 14 Beta 3.2 Part 1 and Part 2 and put them in that folder.
3. Install the stock POTC OUTSIDE of program files.
4. Run the Part 1 Installer and when it asks where to install to "browse" to your POTC install.
5. Pick the options you want while installing like the widescreen stuff.
6. The game is ready to go!
7. In the POTC folder is engine.ini. Go there to set your screen resolution.
8. In POTC-->program-->controls-->defaultcontrols.h the control buttons used can be changed if you do not like the default layout.
9. In POTC-->program-->internalsettings.h you can change the realism and difficulty levels to suit your style of play.

Oh! One other thing. What about your hardware? POTC does not like Intel graphics and if you are using Intel graphics, then you will need the Intel fix that is in Step 5.

In the POTC main screen is "options". Most things can be set there and Steps 8 & 9 are optional.
 
Hylie Pistof said:
:ahoy mate!

It sounds like you did not read the instructions fully. Don't worry, it's a guy thing. guys never read instructions. :napoleon

Fist off, NEVER install POTC into program files. Windows security blocks the mods from running. You even noticed how the files are locked.

Next, you did not install the mod correctly. There is no need to unpack anything. The installer method used is very common and many other mods use it.

1. Create a folder somewhere safe.
2. Download the Build 14 Beta 3.2 Part 1 and Part 2 and put them in that folder.
3. Install the stock POTC OUTSIDE of program files.
4. Run the Part 1 Installer and when it asks where to install to "browse" to your POTC install.
5. Pick the options you want while installing like the widescreen stuff.
6. The game is ready to go!
7. In the POTC folder is engine.ini. Go there to set your screen resolution.
8. In POTC-->program-->controls-->defaultcontrols.h the control buttons used can be changed if you do not like the default layout.
9. In POTC-->program-->internalsettings.h you can change the realism and difficulty levels to suit your style of play.

Oh! One other thing. What about your hardware? POTC does not like Intel graphics and if you are using Intel graphics, then you will need the Intel fix that is in Step 5.

In the POTC main screen is "options". Most things can be set there and Steps 8 & 9 are optional.
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Yeah, my PoTC isn't in program files. I installed it in My Documents/ My Games. The Mods I had installed on my Desktop in a folder called PoTC Mods.
Neither the game nor mods were in Program Files.
When I run the installer, the Engine.ini in the game folder was blank when I checked it.....no text at all, that is why it wouldn't launch the game.
I unpacked the Beta 3 just to check the Engine.ini in it, and it was blank, so I copied the original Engine.ini from the stock game install and applied it and then it had an abnormal program termination.
I'm thinking the problem is a massively corrupted download file.
I have an ATi video card, a Radeon 5770 HD.

To Pieter Boelen,
I will check your link after I try again, because my engine.ini was blank so I couldn't enable an error log, but am now 10 minutes away from another Beta 3 full download finishing.
Thanks for the replies, Gentlemen.
 
If installed correctly, the Beta 3 engine.ini is most definitely not blank. Check the size of the 7-Zip archive.
Perhaps it has become corrupted.
 
Pieter Boelen said:
If installed correctly, the Beta 3 engine.ini is most definitely not blank. Check the size of the 7-Zip archive.
Perhaps it has become corrupted.
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Well, I tried every game type once it started loading, and on the default first person to select, I picked him, hit start game, I heard a bell, logbook update, but screen was black around me, though I saw my profile picture and logbook update on the top left.....so the whole game wasn't black, just the world and everything in it. (not menus)
I then tried Assassin and Jack Sparrow, and the game CTD as soon as it loaded to start playing.

Error Log reads;
RUNTIME ERROR - file: worldmap\worldmap.c; line: 155
Using reference variable without initializing
RUNTIME ERROR - file: Loc_ai\LAi_utils.c; line: 392
Using reference variable without initializing
 
Pieter Boelen said:
Please post also compile.log and system.log .
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System Log;
Scanning modules\
Loading modules...
Loaded 0
Reset...
Initializing CORE...
Creating atoms space: 128
done
initializing complete
Initializing DirectX 8
Techniques: 9 shaders compiled.
Techniques: 180 techniques compiled.
Techniques: compiled by -1876061559 ticks.
Can't load texture resource\textures\INTERFACES\CURSOR32.TGA.tx
resource\models\islands\Douwesen\Douwesen_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\Cayman\Cayman_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\Gaity\Gaity_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\Cuba\Cuba_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\Guadelupa\Guadelupa_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\Antigua\Antigua_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\Curacao\Curacao_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\Eleuthera\Eleuthera_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\Aruba\Aruba_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\IslaDeMuerte\islamona_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\Cartahena\Cartahena_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\IslaDeMuerte\islamona_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
BeginScene
The method call is invalid For example, a method's parameter may have an invalid value
resource\models\islands\Douwesen\Douwesen_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\Cayman\Cayman_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\Gaity\Gaity_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\Cuba\Cuba_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\Guadelupa\Guadelupa_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\Antigua\Antigua_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\Curacao\Curacao_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\Eleuthera\Eleuthera_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\Aruba\Aruba_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\IslaDeMuerte\islamona_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\Cartahena\Cartahena_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\IslaDeMuerte\islamona_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
Can't load texture resource\textures\INTERFACES\CHECKBOX.TGA.tx
Can't load texture resource\textures\INTERFACES\CURSOR32.TGA.tx
resource\models\islands\Douwesen\Douwesen_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\Cayman\Cayman_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\Gaity\Gaity_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\Cuba\Cuba_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\Guadelupa\Guadelupa_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\Antigua\Antigua_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\Curacao\Curacao_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\Eleuthera\Eleuthera_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\Aruba\Aruba_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\IslaDeMuerte\islamona_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\Cartahena\Cartahena_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
resource\models\islands\IslaDeMuerte\islamona_locators.gm: invalid version
?void LOCATOR::LocateForI(VDATA * pData)
Can't load texture resource\textures\CORONATRCH.TGA.tx
Can't load texture resource\textures\CORONACHND.TGA.tx
Can't load texture resource\textures\CORONACHND.TGA.tx
Can't load texture resource\textures\CORONATRCH.TGA.tx
Can't load texture resource\textures\CORONA.TGA.tx
resource\models\locations\decks\cabin\capsm\capsm_ld.gm: invalid version
Can't load texture resource\textures\.tx
Can't load texture resource\textures\.tx
Can't load texture resource\textures\.tx
Can't load texture resource\textures\.tx
Unloading
System exit and cleanup:
Mem state: User memory: 9240 MSSystem: 320 Blocks: 20
Leak: 'C:\PROJECTS\DRIVE_V2\XINTERFACE\NODES\xi_strcollection.cpp' line 209, size 880
Leak: 'C:\PROJECTS\DRIVE_V2\XINTERFACE\NODES\xi_strcollection.cpp' line 209, size 836
Leak: 'C:\PROJECTS\DRIVE_V2\XINTERFACE\NODES\xi_strcollection.cpp' line 209, size 792
Leak: 'C:\PROJECTS\DRIVE_V2\XINTERFACE\NODES\xi_strcollection.cpp' line 209, size 748
Leak: 'C:\PROJECTS\DRIVE_V2\XINTERFACE\NODES\xi_strcollection.cpp' line 209, size 704
Leak: 'C:\PROJECTS\DRIVE_V2\XINTERFACE\NODES\xi_strcollection.cpp' line 209, size 660
Leak: 'C:\PROJECTS\DRIVE_V2\XINTERFACE\NODES\xi_strcollection.cpp' line 209, size 616
Leak: 'C:\PROJECTS\DRIVE_V2\XINTERFACE\NODES\xi_strcollection.cpp' line 209, size 572
Leak: 'C:\PROJECTS\DRIVE_V2\XINTERFACE\NODES\xi_strcollection.cpp' line 209, size 528
Leak: 'C:\PROJECTS\DRIVE_V2\XINTERFACE\NODES\xi_strcollection.cpp' line 209, size 484
Leak: 'C:\PROJECTS\DRIVE_V2\XINTERFACE\NODES\xi_strcollection.cpp' line 209, size 440
Leak: 'C:\PROJECTS\DRIVE_V2\XINTERFACE\NODES\xi_strcollection.cpp' line 209, size 396
Leak: 'C:\PROJECTS\DRIVE_V2\XINTERFACE\NODES\xi_strcollection.cpp' line 209, size 352
Leak: 'C:\PROJECTS\DRIVE_V2\XINTERFACE\NODES\xi_strcollection.cpp' line 209, size 308
Leak: 'C:\PROJECTS\DRIVE_V2\XINTERFACE\NODES\xi_strcollection.cpp' line 209, size 264
Leak: 'C:\PROJECTS\DRIVE_V2\XINTERFACE\NODES\xi_strcollection.cpp' line 209, size 220
Leak: 'C:\PROJECTS\DRIVE_V2\XINTERFACE\NODES\xi_strcollection.cpp' line 209, size 176
Leak: 'C:\PROJECTS\DRIVE_V2\XINTERFACE\NODES\xi_strcollection.cpp' line 209, size 132
Leak: 'C:\PROJECTS\DRIVE_V2\XINTERFACE\NODES\xi_strcollection.cpp' line 209, size 88
Leak: 'C:\PROJECTS\DRIVE_V2\XINTERFACE\NODES\xi_strcollection.cpp' line 209, size 44

Compile Log;
----------------------------------------
Build 14 Beta 3.2: 16 May 2014
Savegame Compatibility: 14.892
----------------------------------------

Gauging: StartGauging
Gauging: starting init
Gauging: interface
Gauging: Storylines
Gauging: Profiles
Gauging: starting init
==> BuildSettings: Sets to default
==> BuildSettings: New settings applied
Gauging: load build settings
Gauging: periods
InitNations: NATIONS_QUANTITY=6, bGuest1NationExists=0, bGuest2NationExists=0
Gauging: nations
Gauging: preprocessor
Init encounters complete.
Gauging: enc
Gauging: cann
Gauging: ships
IslandsInit: 22 islands loaded.
Gauging: islands
Init weathers complete. 0 weathers found.
Gauging: weather
InitSounds (English): created 19 entries.
InitMusic: created 85 entries.
Gauging: Aliases
Gauging: sound
Gauging: goods
Main_LogoVideo() 0
PauseAllSounds
ResumeAllSounds
Main_LogoVideo() -1
Gauging: initgame start
Gauging: createlayers
Gauging: stores
Gauging: sound
Gauging: delete sea env
Gauging: towns
Number of locations: 783
Gauging: locations
IslandsInit: 22 islands loaded.
Gauging: islands
Gauging: wdmap
Gauging: dialogs
Gauging: teleport
bool CreateParticleEntity()
Gauging: particles
Items initialization complete. Loaded 711 items.
Gauging: items
Gauging: quests
Gauging: sea ai groups
Gauging: questmapenc
Gauging: landenc
==> BuildSettings: Sets to default
==> BuildSettings: New settings applied
Gauging: load options
Gauging: models - Total number of models: 956
InitSounds (English): created 19 entries.
InitMusic: created 85 entries.
Gauging: Aliases
Gauging: infoshow
Gauging: initgame done
Init character names complete.
SETTING MUSIC: music_main_menu
Init character names complete.
Init character names complete.
Gauging: start new game
Gauging: ng iface
Gauging: periods
==> BuildSettings: New settings applied
==> BuildSettings: New settings applied
Gauging: perks
InitNations: NATIONS_QUANTITY=6, bGuest1NationExists=0, bGuest2NationExists=0
Gauging: start NPC init
Gauging: done NPC init
::Completing characters initialisation - CHARACTERS_QUANTITY = 1604::
Gauging: done second pass through char array
Gauging: characters
Gauging: ships
Gauging: ng initgame start
Gauging: createlayers
Gauging: stores
Gauging: sound
Gauging: delete sea env
CaptureTownForNation: town=Santo Domingo, 1st=1
SetTownGarrisonForNation: town=Santo Domingo, 1st=1
Gauging: towns
Number of locations: 783
Gauging: locations
IslandsInit: 22 islands loaded.
Gauging: islands
Gauging: wdmap
Gauging: dialogs
Gauging: teleport
bool CreateParticleEntity()
Gauging: particles
Items initialization complete. Loaded 711 items.
Gauging: items
Gauging: quests
Gauging: sea ai groups
Gauging: questmapenc
Gauging: landenc
==> BuildSettings: New settings applied
==> BuildSettings: New settings applied
Gauging: load options
Gauging: models - Total number of models: 956
InitSounds (English): created 19 entries.
InitMusic: created 85 entries.
Gauging: Aliases
Gauging: infoshow
Gauging: ng initgame stop
storyline\standard\quests\both_reaction.c not loaded, loading now!
storyline\standard\quests\quests_reaction.c not loaded, loading now!
Gauging: start reinit
Gauging: preprocessor
Gauging: nosave
Init encounters complete.
Gauging: RM mod and rumors
Gauging: shipberthing
Init character names complete.
Gauging: fill stores
Gauging: update all towns
Gauging: itrade update
Gauging: Enc Officers
Gauging: CabinCaptains
Gauging: reinit stop
running qcase beg
Gauging: initial relations
Gauging: characters groups
Gauging: load mch in first
Made change of cabin and deck parameters for LuggerVML
!!! Reload to Tutorial_Deck (index=695)
** Whr: CreateWeatherEnvironment - iCurWeatherNum = -1, theDay = 106
** Whr: CreateWeatherEnvironment - iCurWeatherhour = -1, theHour = 10
!gWeatherInit Whr_Generator() - Initialized
ItemLogic: On unload location
LoadMainCharacterInFirstLocation: Error during LoadLocation!
Gauging: done load mch in first
Quest name StartAdventure FOUND in BothQuestComplete
Started with tutorial.
Quest name Tut_start FOUND in BothQuestComplete
 
Check again the size of your 7-Zip archive. Ensure it is 2,504,265,443 bytes (2,388.25 MB).
Looks like a definite botched install as even stock game files give error messages:

resource\models\islands\Douwesen\Douwesen_locators.gm
 
Pieter Boelen said:
Check again the size of your 7-Zip archive. Ensure it is 2,504,265,443 bytes (2,388.25 MB).
Looks like a definite botched install as even stock game files give error messages:

resource\models\islands\Douwesen\Douwesen_locators.gm
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I have the two install disks, I don't see how they could fail....but if I need to start over that's not a problem.
As far as the Beta 3 full goes, it's size is 2.33 GB (2,504,265,443 bytes) and the installer is 112 MB (118,227,365 bytes)

On a side note, in the game menu, I didn't have an arrow cursor or anything, it was just a white square.
 
Update:

I reinstalled PoTC in My Documents, and tried to apply the mods again from a desktop folder, and the result was exactly the same as before. White block for cursor, CTD's on Assassin, etc.
If this helps, when I select the default character and just click start game, the game starts to load, then clicks over to menu where you see New Game, Load Game, Save Game, etc on it's own.
Then when I click resume game, everything is black except the top left of the screen with my picture and log updated. The game menus show up fine with F2.
 
Jolly_Pirate said:
I have the two install disks, I don't see how they could fail....but if I need to start over that's not a problem.
As far as the Beta 3 full goes, it's size is 2.33 GB (2,504,265,443 bytes) and the installer is 112 MB (118,227,365 bytes)

On a side note, in the game menu, I didn't have an arrow cursor or anything, it was just a white square.
Click to expand...


Both of those files are larger than the ones I have. Here is a screenie of mine.
POTC NH installer folder.jpg

EDIT: I am downloading these files from MODDB and then Gamefront now.
 
Hylie Pistof said:
Both of those files are larger than the ones I have. Here is a screenie of mine.
View attachment 16955

EDIT: I am downloading these files from MODDB and then Gamefront now.
Click to expand...

Yeah, that is strange. Mine show the same size as yours in the folder, but show a different size when I right click the file and click properties.

I downloaded two different installers and about 5 different fulls from MD and one from Game Front.
 
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Ok here is a comparison of my old installer and one I just DLed. They are the same size.
installer size.jpg

The Full has not finished DLing yet, and is acting suspicious as it has been stuck at 9 seconds for at least 10 minutes now.
 
It has to be the same down to the last byte.

So, you say stock POTC plays ok? It looks like corrupted stock files too. It will be 1-2 hours before I can help you any more.
 
Hylie Pistof said:
Try this. It is my Beta Full that I put into my Dropbox. It will probably crash the Dropbox, but hopefully not before you get it. This is the best I can do.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/gpalg0tpyyfcivy/AADHbSkmS-3Qj4YWFRmhXtEWa/b14_beta3_full.7z
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Hey, thanks a lot, brother. I started downloading. If it will cause you problems somehow, I don't want to cause a problem with something of yours, so if it does start to, just say so here and I'll cancel the download. Thanks again.
 
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