1. Dismiss Notice
  2. GOG.com logo

    Thanks to YOUR votes, GOG.com now sells:
    - Sea Dogs - Sea Dogs: Caribbean Tales
    - Sea Dogs: City of Abandoned Ships

    Vote now to add Pirates of the Caribbean to the list!

    Dismiss Notice
  3. Under the Crossbones Podcast

    A Pirate Podcast with Interviews
    Music, Comedy and all things Pirate!

    - Episode Guide - About - Subscribe -
    - Twitter - Facebook - iTunes - Android -
    - Youtube - Fill the Coffers -

    Dismiss Notice
  4. New Horizons logo

    Quick links for PotC: New Horizons
    - Download latest version
    - Wiki - FAQ - Report bugs here
    - ModDB profile

  5. GOF logo

    Quick links for AoP2: Gentlemen of Fortune 2
    - Downloads and info
    - Historical Immersion Supermod
    - ModDB Profile

Dismiss Notice
New to the forum?
Please take a moment to read our Welcome Message and Forum Rules.

Abandoned Navy Ship Prefixes

Discussion in 'Features Archive' started by Pieter Boelen, May 15, 2016.

?

Which of the following prefixes do you reckon should be used in the game?

  1. HMS: His/Her Majesty's Ship

    100.0%
  2. FS: French Ship (NATO designation); France does not use prefixes internally

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. ESPS: Spanish Naval Ship (Spain does not use prefixes internally)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Zr.Ms.: Zijner/Harer Majesteits Schip, archaic Dutch language

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. PNS: Portuguese Navy Ship (NATO designation, not used internally)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. USS: United States Ship – Commissioned ships only

    100.0%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Pieter Boelen

    Pieter Boelen (Not So) Old Seadog Staff Member Administrator Storm Modder Hearts of Oak Donator

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2004
    Messages:
    66,575
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Maritime Research: Project Engineer (Analysis)
    Location:
    Wageningen, The Netherlands
    As you guys might have noticed, English navy ships get the "HMS" prefix and American ones get "USS".
    It is very easy to add that same functionality to other nations and I have now done so in my own game:
    upload_2016-5-15_21-29-48.png

    I'm not sure which of those actually make sense in the game though.
    Some of them are definitely too modern.

    So I require feedback on which ones we do and don't want to use.
    Refer to the attached poll. :doff
     
  2. Mere_Mortal

    Mere_Mortal Free Like a Radical Storm Modder

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2011
    Messages:
    568
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Courting the Frown
    Location:
    Middle England
    I think it should be based on the historical designations. If a nation didn’t use any then maybe not use them here. HMS has pretty much been used since forever and probably will be until forever, so that one is safe. I dunno about the others, can’t say I’ve really come across them. Is ESPS a sports channel?
     
    Pieter Boelen likes this.
  3. Pieter Boelen

    Pieter Boelen (Not So) Old Seadog Staff Member Administrator Storm Modder Hearts of Oak Donator

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2004
    Messages:
    66,575
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Maritime Research: Project Engineer (Analysis)
    Location:
    Wageningen, The Netherlands
    As wrong add it may sound, I found it listed here:
    Ship prefix - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I agree only historical ones should be used.
    But which ones are modern and which ones have been around for much longer?
    I haven't a clue.
     
  4. Mere_Mortal

    Mere_Mortal Free Like a Radical Storm Modder

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2011
    Messages:
    568
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Courting the Frown
    Location:
    Middle England
    I spent a good while on Wikipedia last night grabbing lots of ship names, and I can say that I didn’t notice a single prefix for any ship other than the British ones. ;)
     
  5. Pieter Boelen

    Pieter Boelen (Not So) Old Seadog Staff Member Administrator Storm Modder Hearts of Oak Donator

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2004
    Messages:
    66,575
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Maritime Research: Project Engineer (Analysis)
    Location:
    Wageningen, The Netherlands
    The USS one is pretty well known.
    The Dutch one using archaic language suggests it has been around for a while.
    The other ones I think are pretty modern.
     
  6. Homo eructus

    Homo eructus Freebooter Storm Modder

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2014
    Messages:
    339
    Gender:
    Male
    Spanish ships didn't use any prefixes in the timeframe of the game (or ever). I'm fairly certain French and Portuguese didn't use them either.
     
  7. Pieter Boelen

    Pieter Boelen (Not So) Old Seadog Staff Member Administrator Storm Modder Hearts of Oak Donator

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2004
    Messages:
    66,575
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Maritime Research: Project Engineer (Analysis)
    Location:
    Wageningen, The Netherlands
    Thanks for confirming that! :cheers
     
  8. Pieter Boelen

    Pieter Boelen (Not So) Old Seadog Staff Member Administrator Storm Modder Hearts of Oak Donator

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2004
    Messages:
    66,575
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Maritime Research: Project Engineer (Analysis)
    Location:
    Wageningen, The Netherlands
    Armada likes this.
  9. Armada

    Armada Sea Dog Staff Member Administrator Project Manager 3D Artist Storm Modder

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2010
    Messages:
    8,078
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Game Developer
    Location:
    Somerset, England
    Sounds sensible. It's a cool idea to have more prefixes, but including NATO designations might seem a little out of place by a few hundred years. :wp
     
    Pieter Boelen likes this.
  10. Pieter Boelen

    Pieter Boelen (Not So) Old Seadog Staff Member Administrator Storm Modder Hearts of Oak Donator

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2004
    Messages:
    66,575
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Maritime Research: Project Engineer (Analysis)
    Location:
    Wageningen, The Netherlands
    Indeed if the prefixes aren't accurate for the period, there's no point having them.
    Well, at least we checked. And now know for sure we don't need any more than we already had.

    I did already add them to the code, but left them commented out.
    At least that should make it clear for code archaeologists in the future that they are not there on purpose. :wp
     
    Armada likes this.

Share This Page