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New character

very nice <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" />
 
I think that's Captain Jack Spareribs! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

That's great Petros! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":bow" border="0" alt="bow.gif" />
 
Great job Petros. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />
 
And now look at this:
<img src="http://home.arcor.de/SWigard/Pictures/Claire_sit.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" />
Claire can sit! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/danse1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":dance" border="0" alt="danse1.gif" />
I copied the sitting frames into the female animation, so we can now keep the famous hipswing and still have sitting (for girls with legs).
I uploaded a file animation.rar both to the ftp and <a href="http://home.arcor.de/SWigard/Downloads/Animation/" target="_blank">my homepage</a>.
It contains the file man_woman_sit for Claire and all female characters with male skeleton, and woman_sit for all Danielle-clones.
I haven't tested them ingame yet, but with the corresponding ani files (also in the archive) it should be ok.
For girls with skirts this will not work, and will not be possible to do, because the skirt doesn't have bones and I won't be able to bend it.
 
Woman can sit now <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" /> That great ! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/danse1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":dance" border="0" alt="danse1.gif" /> Thank Inez that 's cool
 
Wow, that's great indeed! Congrats, Inez! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wavarr.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":warr" border="0" alt="wavarr.gif" />
 
They have the male skeleton anyway, so they should be able to sit with man.an, I think.

EDIT:
Explanation:
The easiest way to get a girl sitting is to remodel a man into a woman. Than you can just stick with man.an and everything's fine, except you get no hipswing.

So this new thing is mainly for Danielle and her clones, to make them able to sit.

With Claire we went through all the effort to change her skeleton from male to female (that really was the hard part), only to have Petros disappointed that now she couldn't sit anymore. Now with this new .an file she has female skeleton and animation (including hipswing, though it looks rather extreme on her), plus in addition the sitting animations copied from man.an.

Dunno if there's anything else that men can do but women can't ( <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" /> ), but if so, we could copy that, too.
 
Ah, OK.

CCC mentioned the poor anims (ground_*). That's the only other thing I can think of.

On a more meta note, <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" /> indeed. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />
 
That's great Inez <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wub.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wub:" border="0" alt="wub.gif" /> Will be checking this out tomorrow! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" />

NK, if Lass changes the bone structure to female on those two models, I would guess this would work for the sitting animation now.

And something else to think about ...

Jurcksen, Rheims, ... someone else?
<img src="http://www.pix8.net/pro/pic/7888greeb/543463.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
 
Oh, wow, tons of creativity over the weekend!

<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>And I've been down sick, making next to nothing except feeling as rotten as a roasted rat...</span>

But nice work Petros and Inez! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />

<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":bow" border="0" alt="bow.gif" />

Yes, I should convert my ladies already, and I should upload Affrica... :eek:op2 And so on. Eek.

Will try my best to catch up. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />
 
Lass: Hope you get well soon.

Nathan: The poor animation, right, so I'll see that I copy that, too. Though we don't have any poor-looking girls so far anyway.
(Hey, Lass, Petros, if you ever find time, a really ragged girl would be something I'd like to see.)
Also I noticed there's one thing the girls can do and the men can't: the table cleaning anim. But I guess the guys don't really want that <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />.
 
I feel better today, thank you. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />


<b>Ragged girl:</b> Sure, I can use something to do now and then apart from the things I should be doing... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/oops3.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":eek:ops2" border="0" alt="oops3.gif" />


Possibly I think the barmaid is collecting any tip left by the customers - you can hear the measly coins clink as she sweeps them of the table, heheh! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" />
 
To Petros: Yet another great new skin! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" />
If used as Jurcksen: He does look quite different from the original one, doesn't he? Supposedly, he is the big pirate around. Does he look like the pirate leader? I'm not sure myself. But I will be when I see him in his house in QC. Does he have the right age for Inez Dias (game character) to have been with him?
Just a few thoughts... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

To High Sea Lass and Inez Dias: So we'll be having female skins that can actually sit and have the proper blade/gun locators soon? Cool! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />
Which models are already properly locator-fixed without changing the animation? I want to know which ones to add to my modpack. And how/when is the sitting animation fixed? Do the existing files have to be fixed? Anyway: I hope you'll be able to come up with the fixed models and animation soon. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />
 
Never mind my above post. I found a lot out on myself. I found that all bugs I found in High Sea Lass' female fixed locator models were already in the original ones, so I can safely add all fixed locator versions in the next modpack update. Also: I've been testing sitting women and have found that everything works, except for skirted ladies sitting. THIS IS GREAT!!!! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" />
Bugs that still need to be fixed with certain models:
- Missing locators for Beatrice, Ladyinred, Fanielle, Nobleman and Nobleman2 (might be more, but these are the ones I found)
- Not sitting yet: Danielle, Daniell1, Daniell2, Daniell3, Ladyinred and DanTG3, but this is easily fixed by setting the woman_sit ani in the initModels.c file.
(Not sure if Ladyinred should use the woman_sit ani file though. Should she? I believe I saw strange things happening to her hands when using man_woman_sit, so I think woman_sit should be the right one. And what ani should Beatrice use? man_woman_sit or man? It seems to be man at the moment... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /> )

This means that the ladies are getting more and more bugless. FINALLY! Almost all of them can now weild blade and gun properly and almost all can now finally sit. Major congratulations to High Sea Lass and Inez Dias!!!! :wave
All available girl-fixes will be implemented in the next modpack update, which should be due tomorrow. I hope that the models without the proper locators will also be fixed soon. And thanks a LOT for all the fixing that already has been done!!!! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/doff.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":doff" border="0" alt="doff.gif" />
<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bounce.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":b:" border="0" alt="bounce.gif" /> And this is also great news for Petros, because I have officially seen 50_33_40Claire sit in a tavern. So she can safely replace Clair Larousse!!!! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bounce.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":b:" border="0" alt="bounce.gif" />
 
<!--QuoteBegin-Pieter Boelen+Jul 12 2005, 09:37 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Jul 12 2005, 09:37 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->... If used as Jurcksen: He does look quite different from the original one, doesn't he? Supposedly, he is the big pirate around. Does he look like the pirate leader?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Well, if big means large, then he is not.
Does he have to look like a dock worker?

He is just as large as the Leader of the smugglers on Conceicao, and the Pirate boss on Douwesen which uses the same "Corsair1.gm"

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm not sure myself. But I will be when I see him in his house in QC.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I'll get him into the house and take a screen shot.
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Does he have the right age for Inez Dias (game character) to have been with him?
Just a few thoughts... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Sorry, that shot is so dark, it doesn't show all the gray hair!
I'll add some more wrinkles
 
Captain Blood: Yes, you need to copy the GM and hex-edit it to point to the new texture file.

Lass: Good to hear you're feeling better! (And I hope it continues). <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Inez: If it's not too much work, I'd very much like to have all animation cases copied to each anim. That way we need never check model.sex or model.ani or any other special case handling.

I'll echo you re: ragged women: right now there's no women at all in Poor_Citizens.

Petros: one slight point. Is there any way to make him, um, fiercer? He looks kinda too /nice/ for Jurcksen... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />
{mostly in the mouth; the eyes and eyebrows are OK I think}

Other than that, I think he _is_ indeed the right age and class; as Pieter's talking/asking about...should be about 45 or so, right? (Considering the state of things then, 45 for most people then (save for the very rich and thus leisured) would look like 65 today IIRC).
 
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