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Pirates seize 30 Russian T-72 Tanks

In the wise, wise words of the Master & Commander whaler...

<!--sizeo:7--><span style="font-size:36pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->F****** PIRATES!<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Tho if theres war with Russia they may just have done us a favour...
 
Give it a few more days and they may kill each other off completely. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/duel_pa.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":ixi" border="0" alt="duel_pa.gif" />
 
I wonder if there's some way to get the tanks up on deck? They could fire on the warships then. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />
 
drive them up the cargo hold stairs. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=280422:date=Oct 1 2008, 11:05 AM:name=Stallion)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Stallion @ Oct 1 2008, 11:05 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=280422"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I wonder if there's some way to get the tanks up on deck? They could fire on the warships then. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Gunner, i would doubt very much they would be loaded with either ammo or fuel. That would just be asking for trouble. Stallion, Even if they could figure out how to fuel them, load them, drive them up the stairs <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> and aim them ....they would probably just end up shooting each other! Oh ...I'm sorry, I mean they would "celebrate a holy day" ...by shooting each other... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rofl" border="0" alt="24.gif" />

I haven't been able to find any real news on the standoff, looks like everyone is waiting on the Russians to show up, but i did run across a couple of well written articles, one is an opinion piece, the other gets a little bit more into detail about how these Somali pirates operate.

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Exterminate that Plague of Pirates
By Ralph Peters
New York Post | Thursday, October 02, 2008

SOMALI pirates got a shock last week: The ship they seized carried dozens of Russian-built tanks, along with a wealth of heavy weapons and ammo. It was more than they'd bargained for.

As I write, the Faina sits at anchor off a notorious pirate port, its crew held captive by 30 or more Somalis. US Navy warships circle the vessel. Our helicopters buzz its deck.

We don't want that weaponry falling into terrorist hands. The Somalis lack the facilities to unload 40-ton tanks, but the smaller weapons aboard would delight the local al Qaeda franchise.

But we don't know what to do next. Neither do the pirates, who caught a whale by the tail. We'd like them to drop their $20-million ransom demand. They'd like us to go away. Meanwhile, the pirates may have killed a number of their own for opaque reasons.

Chartered through a Ukrainian front company, the Faina's a typical post-Soviet arms smuggler: Its cargo is manifested to the Kenyan military, but the true destination for those T-72 tanks is either Sudan's government, which is under an international arms embargo, or southern-Sudanese rebels chafing under a rickety peace deal. The Kenyans are just middlemen making a buck.

The pirates attacked the wrong ship and screwed up everything.

Playing hide-and-seek along nearly 2,000 miles of coastline, Somali pirates have attacked over five dozen vessels this year alone. Their targets ranged from luxury yachts to oil tankers.

Pirates successfully hijacked 26 of those vessels, a dozen of which remain captive pending ransom payments. With few exceptions, ship owners pay up. To their credit, the French sent commandos to free a captured yacht, killing one pirate and capturing a gang. The rest of the world just rolls over.

Our Navy maintains an impressive presence off the Horn of Africa, along with vessels from other NATO states. We have the surveillance means to find and the firepower to destroy the pirate fleets of fast boats. But we don't want to hurt anybody.

Nonetheless, The New York Times has already tilted toward the pirates (and against our sailors), arguing that the hijackers are just poor lads who started out defending their fishing rights and became up-from-poverty entrepreneurs who don't like to hurt anybody. (You almost expect Johnny Depp and Keira Knightley to pop from a hatch.)

As usual, Western leftists excuse lawlessness that terrorizes the wretched of the earth - as long as their own wealthy neighborhoods remain safe. (Woe unto the Pirates of Narragansett Bay!)

The response to piracy must be the same as it was when the British brought an end to the profession's "golden age:" Sink them or board them, kill them or hang them.

Zero tolerance is the only effective policy.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Rest of the story here :
<a href="http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=FC1C9982-217F-4457-9E05-2AF9FF17D198" target="_blank">http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read...05-2AF9FF17D198</a>

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The Chilling Innocence of Piracy[/b]

Somali pirates hijacked a Ukrainian vessel carrying tanks and other military hardware in the Gulf of Aden. U.S. Navy warships have surrounded them.

This year alone, pirates have attacked 61 ships in the region. They have held 14 oil tankers, cargo vessels, and other ships with a total of over 300 crew members, and have demanded ransoms of over $1 million per ship.

The word "pirate" summons all sorts of romantic images from the great age of piracy in the 17th century Caribbean: a ship flying the Jolly Roger and manned by cutthroats with black eyepatches and sashes around their heads. The Indian Ocean pirate of the early 21st century -- in his flip-flops, tank-top, and light jacket -- is different in some ways but similar in others. Only through the distance of time can we find anything charming or romantic about Caribbean pirates, who were murderous thugs just like their modern-day Indian Ocean counterparts.

Piracy is the maritime ripple effect of anarchy on land. Somalia is a failed state with a long coastline, so piracy flourishes nearby, as it does offshore from other weakly governed states like Indonesia and Nigeria. But it is particularly prevalent off the Somali coast because the anarchy is far more severe than in the other two countries. The Somali civil war began in the early 1990s, but the country had, in effect, been broken up since a decade earlier. I was in Somalia in 1986; there was essentially no government at that time, and the country was a virtual ward of the United Nations. Then, Somali pirates were often unemployed male youth who hung around the docks, and whom the local warlord dispatched to the seas to bring back income for him. Piracy is organized crime. Like roving gangs, each group of pirates patrols a part of the sea. The waters in the Gulf of Aden might as well be a street in Mogadishu.

I spoke recently with several U.S. Navy officers who had been involved in anti-piracy operations off Somalia, and who had interviewed captured pirates. The officers told me that Somali pirate confederations consist of cells of ten men, with each cell distributed among three skiffs. The skiffs are usually old, ratty, and roach-infested, and made of unpainted, decaying wood or fiberglass. A typical pirate cell goes into the open ocean for three weeks at a time, navigating by the stars. The pirates come equipped with drinking water, gasoline for their single-engine outboards, grappling hooks, short ladders, knives, AK-47 assault rifles, and rocket-propelled grenades. They bring millet and qat (the local narcotic of choice), and they use lines and nets to catch fish, which they eat raw. One captured pirate skiff held a hunk of shark meat so tough it had teeth marks all over it. With no shade and only a limited amount of water, their existence on the high seas is painfully rugged.

The classic tactic of Somali pirates is to take over a slightly larger dhow, often a fishing boat manned by Indians, Taiwanese, or South Koreans, and then live on it, with the skiff attached. Once in possession of a dhow, they can seize an even bigger ship. As they leapfrog to yet bigger ships, they let the smaller ships go free. Because the sea is vast, only when a large ship issues a distress call do foreign navies even know where to look for pirates. If Somali pirates hunted only small boats, no warship in the international coalition would know about the piracy.

Off-hand cruelty is the pirates' signature behavior. In one instance, they had beaten, bullied, and semi-starved an Indian merchant crew for a week, and thrown overboard a live monkey that the crew was transporting to Dubai. "Forget the Johnny Depp charm," one Navy officer told me. "Theirs is a savage brutality not born of malice or evil, like a lion killing an antelope. There is almost a natural innocence about what they do."

The one upside of piracy is that it creates incentives for cooperation among navies of countries who often have tense relations with each other. The U.S. and the Russians cooperate off the Gulf of Aden, and we might begin to work with the Chinese and other navies off the coast of Indonesia, too. As a transnational threat tied to anarchy, piracy brings nations together, helping to form the new coalitions of the 21st century.
— Robert D. Kaplan<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Original story here :
<a href="http://thecurrent.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/10/pirates.php" target="_blank">http://thecurrent.theatlantic.com/archives.../10/pirates.php</a>
 
I wonder what would happen if they threatened to sink the ship? Maybe their demands might be met quicker. I have a feeling the lives of the crew members are of little concern to the powers-that-be.
 
Wouldn't dis here incident be a great trainin' mission fer de Navy Seals?! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pirate3.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p2" border="0" alt="pirate3.gif" />
 
<a href="http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1846422,00.html?iid=sphere-inline-bottom" target="_blank">A Brief History of Pirates</a>
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->In his interview with the Times, Ali seemed cheerfully fatalistic about the prospect of tangling with the world's naval superpowers: "We know you only die once."<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sound like Ali (head pirate) is excited about being boarded and fighting.

If they were boarded who would participate? Would it be Navy led with Marines as support or exclusively a Marine operation (assuming SF aren't on board or not a viable option due to circumstances).

All this sounds somewhat nostalgic or fun in a dangerous sort of way. Imagine being aboard a Navy ship and being informed your going on a cutting out expedition against pirates.
 
More than likely he is scared ****less and just talking big so his men can hear it! They bit off way more than they could chew when they captured this ship. The US Navy has them surrounded, they won't be going anywhere anytime soon. I think for now the Navy is content with just keeping them under surveillance and making sure there is no attempt to unload any cargo. Once the Russian frigate Neustrashimy arrives however, I think we will see things wrap up rather quickly one way or the other. The Russians aren't exactly known for their patience.

It's been getting tougher and tougher to find any real news the past couple of days, this could be one reason!

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><b>Kenyan police arrest piracy watchdog official</b>

The seized Ukrainian ship saga continued to unfold with arrest and arraignment in court of Andrew Mwangura, coordinator of the Seafarers Assistance program.
Mwangura was charged with issuing perturbing statements and another count of possessing four rolls of Bhanga.
The government on Thursday owned up to the shipment on the hijacked ship.
It was a game of cat and mouse between the police in Mombasa and Andrew Mwangura, coordinator of the Seafarers Assistance programme.
It was not until after 8 hours that police managed to arrest Mwangura outside the standard group offices where he had gone for an interview.
His lawyer Francis Kadima and Hassan Omar Hassan KNHCR vice chairperson who were present during the time of arrest said Mwangura had the freedom of expression.
He was thereafter interrogated by the police for the better part of the morning before being arraigned in Mombasa law courts. Mwangura was the first to say publicly that the tanks and weapons aboard the hijacked ship were headed for Sudan.
A statement that government spokesman Dr. Alfred Mutua dismissed and reaffirmed that the shipment belongs to Kenya.

Mwangura will spend 5 days in police custody for further interrogation until the case is heard on October 7th.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

<a href="http://www.kbc.co.ke/story.asp?ID=52891" target="_blank">http://www.kbc.co.ke/story.asp?ID=52891</a>

I did find another good opinion piece from the LA Times.
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><b>
Pirates of the 21st century
Today's swashbucklers wield high-powered weapons and demand millions in ransom.</b>
By John S. Burnett
October 4, 2008
High seas piracy has emerged from the history books -- and things are much more terrifying than yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum.

Ten days ago, Somali pirates hijacked the Ukrainian cargo ship Faina, with a crew of 20, which was transporting 33 battle tanks and assorted heavy weaponry. This dangerous cargo, booty far beyond the expectations of the pirates, has drawn rare international attention to the growing crisis of piracy at sea. U.S. Navy ships have surrounded the Faina for fear the weapons, if unloaded, will fall into the hands of Islamic insurgents. The Russian warship Neustrashimy, with marines and commandos aboard, is en route. The European Union has finally moved to set up an anti-piracy security operation in the region, and the United Nations may vote on an anti-pirate resolution next week.

The pirates reportedly demanded $35 million to free the ship, then $20 million -- and may have dropped their price to $5 million. But they don't call it ransom. Their leader told the New York Times that the money was a "fine" for transporting arms in Somalia's waters and for "unauthorized and unsanctioned fishing and for the humanitarian catastrophe in Somalia."

If the Faina hijacking serves any useful purpose, it may be that it has alerted the public to the scale of the problem. If terrorists hijacked a FedEx cargo plane with a crew of two, the news networks would be following events minute by minute. But few have expressed concern for those captured at sea, as if pirates really were romantic, swashbuckling rogues who swing through the rigging rescuing damsels in distress.

Right now, Somali pirates hold more than a dozen hijacked ships. Nearly 400 men and women from the vessels are being held at gunpoint in some Somali fishing village or aboard a ship that is running low on food and water while negotiations are underway with ship owners that will determine if they live or die. My own sailing vessel was attacked by pirates in the South China Sea, and I can attest there are few situations more terrifying than staring down the barrel of a loaded assault rifle held by a nervous pirate, knowing that no one is coming to your rescue.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Rest of the story here :
<a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-burnett4-2008oct04,0,126546.story" target="_blank">http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-...,0,126546.story</a>
 
Pirates have been quietly making a comeback over the years. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pirate3.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p2" border="0" alt="pirate3.gif" />
 
<!--QuoteBegin-"Wired Blog Network"+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE ("Wired Blog Network")</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Pirates have been attacking ships off the coast of Somalia for years. This map, from the United Nations satellite imagery team, plots all the strikes in 2007. There are no big red Xs to mark the treasure spots, I'm afraid. But it does note the last known whereabouts of the pirate "mother ship." Which is still pretty cool.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


<img src="http://blog.wired.com/defense/images/2008/04/01/piratemap3.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
 
They have a floating base of operations? Sounds like they're better organized than those that are after them. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />
 
Still not much news, the only estimated ETA for the Neustrashimy's arrival in the area I could find was November 6'th. But there is no doubt she is coming, ready for a fight.

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><b>Lavrov Calls for Pirate Fight</b>
06 October 2008

Russia will work with the United States and European Union to fight piracy off the African coast and wants naval forces gathering in the area to coordinate their efforts, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Friday.

Lavrov's comments signal that momentum is growing for coordinated international action to back up the sharp response after the stunning seizure late last month of a Ukrainian ship with a cargo of 33 Soviet-built tanks and a crew that includes two Russians.

"Russia aims to prevent pirates from causing mayhem," Lavrov said.

He said nations with naval vessels in the area, which include the United States, should work together against piracy.

"It would be useful to coordinate the naval forces that are deployed," Lavrov said, RIA-Novosti reported. "It seems everything is leading to this."

A Russian warship with commandos aboard is headed to the waters off Somalia, where pirates are holding the MV Faina. The Navy said the frigate Neustrashimy is carrying marines and special forces but has also sought to play down talk of the use of force to free the Faina's crew.

The United States and some of its allies already have 10 warships in the area in the Gulf of Aden, located north of Somalia on Africa's eastern elbow and between the Indian Ocean and the Red Sea. The Gulf of Aden is crossed by some 20,000 ships each year.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Rest of the story here :
<a href="http://www.moscowtimes.ru/article/1010/42/371447.htm" target="_blank">http://www.moscowtimes.ru/article/1010/42/371447.htm</a>
 
Time to get your boarding axes and cutlasses ready <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/duel_pa.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":ixi" border="0" alt="duel_pa.gif" />
 
Belay that Officerpuppy! Looks like they may get paid off after all. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" />

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><b>Somali pirate source: deal near on Ukraine ship</b>
Wed 8 Oct 2008, 8:02 GMT

By Abdi Sheikh

MOGADISHU (Reuters) - An onshore associate of Somali pirates holding a Ukrainian ship with tanks and other weaponry on board said on Wednesday an $8 million ransom deal was in the offing which may enable the boat to be freed within days.

"A boat will carry the money from Djibouti and pirates are expected to release the ship in the coming two nights," a business partner of the pirates, who identified himself only as Farah, told Reuters.

In the highest-profile of scores of pirate attacks off Somalia this year, the MV Faina has been held since the end of September with 20 crew members on board. Its cargo includes 33 T-72 tanks which were en route to Kenya's Mombasa port.

U.S. navy warships are watching the ship, which lies offshore near Hobyo town, guarded by about 50 pirates.

"The pirates on board the Ukrainian ship have struck a bargain of $8 million ransom," added Farah, who has given reliable information in the past about pirate activities.

"I think the Americans are aware of the deal because there is no other alternative to release the ship. If the warships threatened, pirates would die in a last-ditch fight and risk the hostages," he said.

Pirates on the Faina, reached by Reuters via satellite phone, said they were no longer speaking to media despite giving numerous interviews in the last two weeks.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Rest of the story here :
<a href="http://africa.reuters.com/top/news/usnJOE4970CB.html" target="_blank">http://africa.reuters.com/top/news/usnJOE4970CB.html</a>
 
Score one for the pirates. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pirate3.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p2" border="0" alt="pirate3.gif" /> Won't this just encourage others? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
For sure. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />
 
they'd better be more careful from now on though. that was way too close for comfort.
 
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