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Raising the Jolly Roger

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Darkmuncan

Landlubber
Another n00b type question probably, I have heard some threads about people being able to raise and lower the Jolly Roger on their ship, how does one do this? Also, how does one become friends with the pirates? Thanks <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />
 
mate just talk to one of your officers or hit your f2 button and do it yourself! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pirate2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p:" border="0" alt="pirate2.gif" />
 
Wow, sorry I just figured out what you all were talking about with build 11. I installed it this afternoon, and boy oh boy does it change the game eh? Thanks for the advice mate, I look forward to rediscovering this game now! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pirate2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p:" border="0" alt="pirate2.gif" />
 
<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/onya.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="onya.gif" /> Wonderful, <b>Darkmuncan!</b> Give us a holler if you get stuck on anything! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="8)" border="0" alt="cool.gif" />
 
Haarrgh! Good day to all! (not very pirate like eh?)

Cpt. Loveless noticed dat when he orders da crew to raise the pirate flag, instead of raisin da flag da crew sens him directly to windows! Dat not be very pirate like too, savvy? In da middle o' me plunderin' the game stops!!! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_eek.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shock:" border="0" alt="icon_eek.gif" />

That be a genuine mood spoiler!!! Aaaargh!
 
Is that consistent,ur jest a one time thing mate <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /> It doesn't happen all the time, but it does happen!!!! Aaaarg, but me just changes the flag in the intarnational menu, dat solves it too!! But tis weird... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mellow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":|" border="0" alt="mellow.gif" />
 
<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /> I thought there was a fix that solved this problem in one of the updates. Are you sure you got them all, Capt'n Jeb?
 
I thought i did... now I don't. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mellow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":|" border="0" alt="mellow.gif" /> I'll go check!
 
I have a different sort of problem... Usually I attack pirate ships; but once I attacked a French ship and hoisted the pirate flag. Now, when talking to people in a town I trigger a "Oh, I know you, you are that pirate..." response and I get attacked. By everybody. And I can't survive an entire town attacking me.

Somehow my faction dropped from Matey to Bloke, too. Probably from doing just this. I wonder... If using this flag makes such an adverse reaction, why bother with it? No, don't answer that. I'll do some trade runs and rescue some ladies, maybe it'll stop.

Henry Avery

Playing Build 13 Final.
Oh, and I'm new to the forum and the game. This is my 1st post.
 
Welcome to the forum! That reaction is supposed to only occur at a pretty low chance. Not always. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
Can someone tell me the difference in Raising the jolly roger in the international page and doing it during battle? I use the one in the international page so i can sail into a pirate port without getting attacked. What does raising it in battle do? it seems it make all nations hate me but what does it do for my relations with the pirates?
 
In theory it should be the same, bit I'm not sure if it is... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
I'm going to hazard a guess. Mind you this only a guess.
I think this is how it is supposed to work.

1. Raising the Pirate flag in battle (at sea) declares war on all nations.
I believe this is permanent, and you would have to pay governors and/or ambassadors for a pardon.
I'd guess that pirates would always love you.

2. Changing the flag in "F2" is like using a false flag.
Changing it back should reset normal nation relations, that is unless you got into fights with other nation ships while flying the false Pirate flag.
As it is a false flag, it would fool pirates, but not always.
 
raising the jolly roger declares war on all non-pirate nations in the sea area you are in, and only those. it's a very bold action, and i love it. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" />
 
Why not? Live dangerously. Its the only way. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" />
 
I recall if you raise the Jolly Roger in battle through the [Enter] menu, every ship around you will become hostile. Then when you go back to the worldmap, your flag is reset to what it was before raising the Jolly Roger. There is now a slight chance that a sailor in one of the towns will recognize you for your actions.
 
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->once I attacked a French ship and hoisted the pirate flag. Now, when talking to people in a town I trigger a "Oh, I know you, you are that pirate..." response and I get attacked. By everybody. And I can't survive an entire town attacking me.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Looking at the code, I think you're supposed to be recognised only once. So if you survive to one alert (run and try to hide yourself, in a house for exemple), you shouldn't be bothered with that - until you re-attack a ship hoisting the Black flag, that is!

in Enc_Walker.d
<!--c1--><div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><!--ec1-->// ccc Dec 05 You are recognized after raising pirateflag
if(CheckAttribute(Pchar,"orgnation") && Pchar.orgnation == "traitor" && makeint(GetLocationNationFromID(NPchar.location))!=3)    // checks if you once hoisted Jolly Roger
{
    DeleteAttribute(Pchar,"orgnation");    // so that recognizing happens only once
    d.Text = DLG_TEXT[294];
    Link.l1 = RandSwear() + DLG_TEXT[295];
    Link.l1.go = "alarm";
}
else{[...]}// ccc hoist flag end<!--c2--></div><!--ec2-->
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->That reaction is supposed to only occur at a pretty low chance. Not always.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> For the people using this dialog, you have one chance on 14. That's not very low, especialy considering theses people are many and quite often talk to you without you asking. And I think this event might be triggered in other dialogs as well (random sailors?).
Anyway, I really like this. That's fun! When it doesn't happen in a pirate town, of course - in that case it just sounds stupid.
 
<!--quoteo(post=220851:date=Nov 10 2007, 12:27 PM:name=a simple virtual sailor)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(a simple virtual sailor @ Nov 10 2007, 12:27 PM) [snapback]220851[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->...Anyway, I really like this. That's fun! When it doesn't happen in a pirate town, of course - in that case it just sounds stupid.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thanks for sharing that <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rofl" border="0" alt="24.gif" />
I needed that laugh. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />
 
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