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<!--quoteo(post=220572:date=Nov 8 2007, 01:43 PM:name=morgan terror)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(morgan terror @ Nov 8 2007, 01:43 PM) [snapback]220572[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->... incidentally, the war schooner is in fact a brig or schooner-brig. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" /> maybe the name should be changed?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I started work on a fast barque.

I'm using the Yacht hull and square sails on the bow and foremast, with Xebec sails for main and mizzen.
There is no confusion about what a modern 18th and 19th Century Barque looks like, but no agreement on what a 1600's one should look like.

One might want to call it a Barquentine rigged Yacht, but I'm not.
My version uses older sail types anyway.

So, I'll be calling it a fast barque.
 
Started on a new ship already? Cool! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" />
Did you release your schooner already? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=220739:date=Nov 9 2007, 07:02 PM:name=Petros)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Petros @ Nov 9 2007, 07:02 PM) [snapback]220739[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I didn't think people would want to replace their red sails, or black ones for that matter, with Spanish ones.
We never figured how to add them as a separate set, so I never included them.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Thanks Petros! Pirate_KK rewrote the Select Sails interface in the Build 14 Alpha and I think I can figure out how to add your sails as special sails that don't overwrite anything.
 
sounds a bit like a polacre. except that those had the hull of a xebec and no bowsprit.
 
<!--quoteo(post=220801:date=Nov 10 2007, 06:56 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Nov 10 2007, 06:56 AM) [snapback]220801[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Started on a new ship already? Cool! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well right now she is looking a bit like a dog! A hodgepodge of spare parts!
She will be very functional though. A smugglers ship, sneaking up and down coastlines, in and out of river inlets.
Great sailing up wind to get away from coast guard,

Every modder has to make at least one ugly thing and it looks like this will be mine.
I'll post a screen later.

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Did you release your schooner already? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, but don't worry, I will get around to it.
It's just this hole in my jaw has me only wanting to do fun things.
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=220739:date=Nov 9 2007, 07:02 PM:name=Petros)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Petros @ Nov 9 2007, 07:02 PM) [snapback]220739[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I didn't think people would want to replace their red sails, or black ones for that matter, with Spanish ones.
We never figured how to add them as a separate set, so I never included them.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Thanks Petros! Pirate_KK rewrote the Select Sails interface in the Build 14 Alpha and I think I can figure out how to add your sails as special sails that don't overwrite anything.
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That would be nice.
If they are not /can't be used as a national/Spain sail, it would be great to use them as default on all my ship models.
 
<!--quoteo(post=220849:date=Nov 10 2007, 05:54 PM:name=Petros)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Petros @ Nov 10 2007, 05:54 PM) [snapback]220849[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->No, but don't worry, I will get around to it.
It's just this hole in my jaw has me only wanting to do fun things.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I'm not worrying. I've got plenty of things to do in the meantime. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=220849:date=Nov 10 2007, 05:54 PM:name=Petros)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Petros @ Nov 10 2007, 05:54 PM) [snapback]220849[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->That would be nice.
If they are not /can't be used as a national/Spain sail, it would be great to use them as default on all my ship models.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I intended to just add them as custom sails for the player. But if you want, I could also make them as either Spanish sails by default or as default sails on your ships. I would prefer to have white sails with a red cross for Spain though. But we can easily set your sails as default for your ships. But wouldn't they look odd on, for example, the Privateer or Pirate Corvette...? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=220872:date=Nov 10 2007, 01:56 PM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Nov 10 2007, 01:56 PM) [snapback]220872[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I intended to just add them as custom sails for the player. But if you want, I could also make them as either Spanish sails by default or as default sails on your ships. I would prefer to have white sails with a red cross for Spain though. But we can easily set your sails as default for your ships. But wouldn't they look odd on, for example, the Privateer or Pirate Corvette...? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hmm, I don't know, I guess.
Scratch my idea. Just leave them as a player option. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />

I haven't done any work on it today at all but here is what the ugly duckling looks like so far.
<img src="http://www.pix8.net/pro/pic/7888greeb/1076888.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" />
 
yeah, it looks wrong. but somehow logical too. that thing's wierd! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" /> i don't know why, but it looks right somehow. good idea, adding those halliards.
 
That looks FUNNY! I like it! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" />
 
Drat. everytime i see sails i want to sail. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sailr.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":sail" border="0" alt="sailr.gif" />

Sails, sails and again SAILS! i like those SAILS! and ROPES! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sailr.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":sail" border="0" alt="sailr.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/danse1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":dance" border="0" alt="danse1.gif" />

EDIT: Ermh .. forgot to mention MASTS!
 
<!--quoteo(post=220890:date=Nov 10 2007, 02:36 PM:name=morgan terror)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(morgan terror @ Nov 10 2007, 02:36 PM) [snapback]220890[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->yeah, it looks wrong. but somehow logical too. that thing's wierd! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" /> i don't know why, but it looks right somehow. good idea, adding those halliards.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That is the thing. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" />

It looks ugly, yet somehow, functional and perhaps even historically correct. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" />

The Susan Constant 1606 (I think) for example, is describes as a Barque.

It was a merchant ship with somewhat fleutish lines.
It had square sails, one on the bow, one on the foremast, two on the main, and a lateen on the mizzen.
It made a round trip across the Atlantic. It worked!

Problem is that too many of POTC's ships look like that already.

I could make it lateen on all three masts, but then it is just another xebec, which I think might just be the earliest type of coastal barque anyway.

Oh well <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ko.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":ko" border="0" alt="ko.gif" />
edit: Actually, if I get around to skinning this thing, it will probably be "very" plain, more so than it is now with the original skin.
It should look like a workhorse, a smuggler. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/nerbz.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":nerbz" border="0" alt="nerbz.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=220905:date=Nov 10 2007, 10:08 PM:name=Petros)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Petros @ Nov 10 2007, 10:08 PM) [snapback]220905[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Oh well <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ko.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":ko" border="0" alt="ko.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

To the death... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ko.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":ko" border="0" alt="ko.gif" />

<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/nerbz.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":nerbz" border="0" alt="nerbz.gif" />
 
So far so good: I put in Petros' sails as additional custom sails and I can now select them for my ships. Any other requests for the usage of these sails? I can still set them as default sails for ships like the Light Caravel and such if you like. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/doff.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":doff" border="0" alt="doff.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=220909:date=Nov 10 2007, 03:31 PM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Nov 10 2007, 03:31 PM) [snapback]220909[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So far so good: I put in Petros' sails as additional custom sails and I can now select them for my ships. Any other requests for the usage of these sails? I can still set them as default sails for ships like the Light Caravel and such if you like. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/doff.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":doff" border="0" alt="doff.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Way cool, thank you Pieter! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />

"Light Caravel and such" ... I'm guessing the Light Galleon (Fleut base), Royal Galleon, and the two War Galleons.
Perhaps even the Merchantman would work ... look nice.

(Heh, hey I'm partial, I like them on my Ketch, Rum Runner, Privateer, Pirate Corvette, Light Frigate, even Dutch Fleut) <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dev.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":d:" border="0" alt="dev.gif" />

Only one I don't like them on is my MoW, don't know Why I ever did that one.
 
Sure they look good on any ships, but if you set the sail type for a ship, ALL of those ships will ALWAYS have those sail types. So I'd suggest only doing it for those ships it really does look right on. So we'd need to decide which ones. So it'll be the Light Caravel, Light Galleon, Royal Galleon and the two War Galleons?
 
why not make a proper polacre? that's a smuggling ship, and a very fast one too with excellent sailing qualities. apart from that, it looks just as wierd.

hmm....turns out they normally have a lateen on the foremast. i've also seen one with your rig though.
 
LOL! That is WEIRD! Especially the really big lateen sail on the bow. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=220915:date=Nov 10 2007, 03:53 PM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Nov 10 2007, 03:53 PM) [snapback]220915[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Sure they look good on any ships, but if you set the sail type for a ship, ALL of those ships will ALWAYS have those sail types. So I'd suggest only doing it for those ships it really does look right on. So we'd need to decide which ones. So it'll be the Light Caravel, Light Galleon, Royal Galleon and the two War Galleons?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yep, that would be good.
Those sails look especially good on the Light Galleon and the Royal Galleon.
 
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