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Ship Texture Upgrading Project

i'd imagine the sides should look more like real life sides. i can't go look for an exemplary image right now though.
 
heres some examples of sides on real ships
http://www.flickr.com/photos/64339105@N08/5860247339/in/set-72157626898257045
http://www.flickr.com/photos/64339105@N08/5860798966/in/set-72157626898257045/
drawing with a bunch of different types : http://www.flickr.com/photos/64339105@N08/5860247537/in/set-72157626898257045/
for the gunports, I would suggest either
a) adding a rail on top of the side to make full gunports
b) rounding the bottoms of the gunports
c) bringing the sides up to make full gunports
 
Unfortunately, those images just confirm what the problem is; the sides vary immensely from ship to ship.
The only other problem is that most of the stock ships also use the side texture for the stairs, so I need to make something which satisfies both. :facepalm
Perhaps I could just use similar planking to the deck, but less dirt-covered and uneven? Well, I'll try something and show you the results.
 
Here's what I've done to LuggerVML's deck, which used to look very different to most ships:

LuggerVML_deck.jpg

All I really changed here was the deck planking and the colour of the cannons, to match up better with ships using 'deck.tga'.
On that note, any thoughts on this ship's side panel texture? I reckon it looks better than the current deck.tga version, so do you think it would look good as a replacement? :shrug
 
OK... while I was hoping for some kind of comments on the ideas in my last post, I went ahead and experimented with the sides anyway. :cheeky
Here's what I've come up with, again demonstrating with the Light Frigate. Note how the texture also fits the stairs pretty well:

NewDeckV2.jpg

Also, I've started applying this kind of deck planking to the decks you see when boarding or walking around in 3rd person, with some good results:

NewFightdeck.jpg

And in other news, while I was looking at the textures for the boarding decks, I found a much better version of the lifeboat texture.
This is the small boat you see moored at port, with crew sat in it, but it also appears on most of the newer ships models.
Here's a preview, showing the old one on the left, and the new one on the right:

New_boat_tex.jpg

It's amazing what we've got lurking around in other textures, that we've never even noticed before!
So any thoughts on the above? Don't be scared, I won't bite you for commenting... honest! :razz
 
Personally I like the way the Heavy Lugger looks now. The other stuff is a definite improvement tho.
 
the hatches look very strange now. their quality is too low compared to the deck, so they look like they're completely loose.
 
Morgan Terror said:
the hatches look very strange now. their quality is too low compared to the deck, so they look like they're completely loose.
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You mean the hatches that lead to the lower decks? I see your point, they do look out of place.
I think 'desk.tga' has more a detailed version, so I'll see if that makes a difference.

@Pieter, uniformity was definitely what I had in mind. :yes
It would be nice to reduce the differences between the boarding decks and normal decks, so you don't look like you're on a completely different ship when boarding.
I'm especially keen to use some of the higher quality textures, such as the lifeboat one, to liven up the normal decks a bit. ;)
 
It looks like the glass is much cleaner, more transparent. I think it's more historically accurate for clear glass it to be a bit opaque and cloudy though. It appears like the original texture was going for the stained glass look. :shrug
 
Thagarr said:
It looks like the glass is much cleaner, more transparent. I think it's more historically accurate for clear glass it to be a bit opaque and cloudy though. It appears like the original texture was going for the stained glass look. :shrug
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I don't think so. To me it looks like the upper half is the stock plain texture and underneath they have used alpha transparency to cut the glass part of that texture away.
 
the flame now also floats in nothingness now, which the unclear glass held hidden. i'm not so sure about this one.
 
Nightwatcher said:
I don't think so. To me it looks like the upper half is the stock plain texture and underneath they have used alpha transparency to cut the glass part of that texture away.
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Thanks mate, I always forget about alpha channels! :facepalm
 
Thagarr said:
Nightwatcher said:
I don't think so. To me it looks like the upper half is the stock plain texture and underneath they have used alpha transparency to cut the glass part of that texture away.
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Thanks mate, I always forget about alpha channels! :facepalm
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No prob, its a whole lot to keep track off.. or so xD:

An modeled candle would be perfect to put inside. And an little bit tuneddown alphacannel so at 90% to see a fraction off the glass maybe.

@ Armada: How does the bump mapping work in AoP espacialy CoaS?
Did you made an greyscale of the texture. How do you inform the engine about the Bumpmap?
 
Nightwatcher said:
@ Armada: How does the bump mapping work in AoP espacialy CoaS?
Did you made an greyscale of the texture. How do you inform the engine about the Bumpmap?
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I don't know anything about whether AoP supports real bump mapping or not. I don't mod for that game yet. :no
All I did with the modified PotC textures is apply a bump map filter to the texture itself, so although it's not rendered by the game engine, the texture looks vaguely 3D.
It's not perfect, and of course the effect doesn't look as good from different angles, but it's better than nothing.
The same thing can easily be done to any AoP textures, using most photo editing packages like Photoshop or GIMP.
 
I don't think the game engine understands bump maps quite well.
Definitely not to the extent some games have.
 
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