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Fixed Tavern Soldiers Turn Hostile When They Shouldn't

Hylie Pistof

Hylie Pistof

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In my last game I got accused of being a spy by a soldier in a tavern who then tried to arrest me. After that every tavern I entered that had soldiers in it went straight to a fight.

I was not a spy, had never flown a false flag, had never sunk or captured a ship, and was in fact a French citizen in a French tavern.
 
Yes same happened when i first started the game.. but with french because i am rebel and they hate me from the start.. so they always accuse me of being a rebel whenever i engage in conversation with ANY guard
 
Hylie Pistof said:
After that every tavern I entered that had soldiers in it went straight to a fight.
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See here: Needs Testing - Friendly guards attacking you | Page 2 | PiratesAhoy!

Hylie Pistof said:
In my last game I got accused of being a spy by a soldier in a tavern who then tried to arrest me.
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I was not a spy, had never flown a false flag, had never sunk or captured a ship, and was in fact a French citizen in a French tavern.
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What flag were you flying at the time? Do you have a savegame where you get the "you're a spy" dialog when you believe you shouldn't?
Might be a logic error in the random guard dialog file.

A.H said:
Yes same happened when i first started the game.. but with french because i am rebel and they hate me from the start.. so they always accuse me of being a rebel whenever i engage in conversation with ANY guard
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What flag were you flying while talking to those French guards?
 
@Hylie Pistof and @A.H: Please provide more details about the circumstances where you got called out for being a spy while that didn't seem right to you.
Ideally provide a savegame in front of a soldier with whom it can be reliably reproduced.

I'd like to fix this for you, but I can't really do it without more details because I don't yet understand when and therefore why it would happen.
 
I was french.. i started new game as McAllister and a rebel.. then i went to Port au prince in hispaniola and I had french flag.. then when i was accused of being a spy, i saw that my french relations were -120 and spain 0
 
A.H said:
I was french.. i started new game as McAllister and a rebel.. then i went to Port au prince in hispaniola and I had french flag.. then when i was accused of being a spy, i saw that my french relations were -120 and spain 0
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It just accused you of "being a spy"? Not "a French/personal/pirate spy"? If so, that at least is functioning like it should.
Rebels start hostile to their chosen nation (they wouldn't be much of a rebel if not) and therefore there is a risk when doing business in a hostile town.

Though there IS a "false flag recognition chance" factored in there, so you shouldn't be called out as being a spy every time.
 
Yes for my case I don't think there is any malfunction.. but not sure about Hylie's situation how it started.
 
@Hylie Pistof: Can you please provide a savegame where you got these hostile guards in taverns?
I'd quite like to sort this one out!
 
To clarify, you may be accused IN DIALOG for being hostile if:
- You are marked as a "pirate" and are in a non-pirate location (contains random effect on your pirate fame level); the dialog will accuse you of PIRACY here
- You are flying a flag hostile to the nationality of the soldier you're talking to; the dialog will accuse you of being an ENEMY here
- You are REALLY hostile to that nation and you got detected for this; the dialog will accuse you of being a SPY here

So @Hylie Pistof: Which of those three did you get?
 
Hylie Pistof said:
I answered all of your questions in post #1.
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You got accused as "being a spy". That can happen only if you are personally hostile to the nation that soldier belonged to.
So there are the following options:
- You were in a French tavern talking to a French soldier: Therefore you must have been hostile to France.
- You were in a French tavern talking to a non-French soldier: This would explain it, but shouldn't happen.
- You were not in a French tavern: That doesn't agree with the opening post.

None of those options match with your story, so I require a savegame where it happens.
Otherwise I will never be able to figure this out and I'll be forced to call this "Not a Bug" because I have no other option.
 
"Cannot Confirm" for now then. If you do run into it again, please make post a save here and then hopefully I can figure out what happens from there.
 
In the Buccaneer Camp, there was a "pirate guard" in the tavern.
And as I am hostile to the pirates, he accused me of being an enemy, triggering plenty of fights.
And then some more. And some more again.

So I'm making the following changes:
- Get the original guard who spots you to JOIN in the fight, so he gets killed and it doesn't start over again
- Avoid random guards in Pirate taverns altogether
- Include "resetting of soldier AND citizen AI group relations" on buying amnesty, being promoted and paying to make the forts reset you

That should help at least a bit.
Does that sound about right? Or am I still missing something there?
 
I killed the original soldier who falsely accused me of being a spy, and in every tavern I entered after that on any island belonging to any nation if there was a soldier walking around a fight started instantly.

I must also say that in this new game I am up to level 24 and have not been accused of being a spy and the only oddity is at Port au Prince.
 
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