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White sails on ships

Pieter Boelen

Pieter Boelen

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I would want to make a small new mod. If enabled in BuildSettings.h, all ships encountered on the worldmap will have white sails instead of their national emblem on the sails. I think this is more realistic, because in reality ships didn't have emblems on their sails either.

Another part of this mod would be to improve the kam_selectsails interface so that you can choose which type of white sails you'd like.

Also fun: Make ships on the worldmap have different types of white sails. This seem realistic to me because not every ship would have sails made from the same cloth.

I want to add Seb's new AoP white sails into this mod.

However, to make this mod I need to know two things:
1) How to change kam_selectsails.c properly
2) Find out where in the code the sails are set for the ships in 3D sailing mode

Would anyone want to give me a hand with this?
 
There are two different white sails in game right now.
First the usual sails named whole_white_sail_plain.tga
<img src="http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/34/2801134/1280_3735656361303736.jpg" border="0" alt="IPB Image" />

and second a white sail named parus_common.tga
<img src="http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/34/2801134/1280_3031613061646435.jpg" border="0" alt="IPB Image" />

With Sebs sails there are three different sails. If we put the plain sails into the game instead of the national emblems and changed the button from "National Emblems" to "Select Sails" it shouldn't be necessary to make changes in code.

All we need is five different sail textures that replace the national emblems and someone who could change the button text. Maybe more sail textures that can placed in the pirate emblems.

Btw where can I have a look on Sebs AoP white sails?
 
They are on ftp <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

I might could make something with an Pirates of the Burning sea sail texture i found
 
i like the second more then the first <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> but offcourse that isn't my choice to say what sails are in and not <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> keep up the good work <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
I hope my triy with POBS sails could be useful, hope it'll fit to this mod,

<img src="http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/7494/pobssailcx5.jpg" border="0" alt="IPB Image" />


I put the names on it to replace whole black sails, but these are just files, of course they are here for that : make anything you'll want with it

Knowing that in the AOP pack, i putted three sails texture, we have two in the stock games, that makes 6 with this one

You'll find them on ftp in <i>POBS sails.zip</i>
 
I'll have a look at that right now but i see what you're thinking about <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> i think it could be easy to do, because POBS will only be released by downloading, and without the subscrition prices it'll be free, (that's what i read, if i remember it concerns the second release planned) it'll be released by steam

EDIT : Here is the users made ship forum, i think the information might be here

<a href="http://www.flyinglab.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=30" target="_blank">http://www.flyinglab.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=30</a>
 
If they're .GMs...that would be amazing! I was just over at the POBS forums last night, viewing all of the independently modelled ships that had been or were in the process of being added in-game. I would LOVE to see some of them in PotC, that's for sure.
 
I saw them too, real eye candy for sure, and i also thinked wich ships it would make (they would explode the polycount)
 
If they were in fact .GM models, there's no way we could do without adding some into PotC. I'm sure we could delete faces or find some other way to lower the poly count.

Remember, if there's a will, there's a way <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
Nice sentence <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />

I've uploaded on FTP

"AOP sails replacing red sails"

and

"POBS sails for pirates"

Hope it will make that job advance...

EDIT : Here is the result for the pirates ships

<img src="http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/4637/piratesailszb3.jpg" border="0" alt="IPB Image" />
 
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With Sebs sails there are three different sails. If we put the plain sails into the game instead of the national emblems and changed the button from "National Emblems" to "Select Sails" it shouldn't be necessary to make changes in code.

All we need is five different sail textures that replace the national emblems and someone who could change the button text. Maybe more sail textures that can placed in the pirate emblems.

Btw where can I have a look on Sebs AoP white sails?
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Damn, I tested a little bit with white sails and try to replace the pirate emblems with the white sails. But it don't work as it should cause there only the two sails with the emblems on it were changed. The rest of the sails use the sail_white_plain.tga texture.


BTW Seb,
graet work with your AoP sails. They look great. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/onya.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="onya.gif" />

So I think too we need someone with coding skills to select more than one white plain sail.
I hoped it could be easier with the sail changing. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" />
 
Thanks a lot matey <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Normally with the file "POBS sails for pirates" all the pirate sails are replace by POBS sails, even the pictured one, try it, it should work <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
i dont like these sails there to much toyie for me <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
^^ those are just files people make what they want with it, but yep, they might deserve a desaturation
 
The sails look excellent to me.

I was thinking: Perhaps we could replace the nation-specific sails with different white sails for all nations?

A problem would occur with the non-emblemed sails, because those use a default for all nations. This means that some coding needs to be done. I would look into it if only I knew where the sails for the encountered ships are set.
 
I found the files with the code that would need to be changed:
PROGRAM\kam_generalfunctions.c
PROGRAM\BATTLE_INTERFACE\procGetSailTextureData.c
PROGRAM\INTERFACE\kam_selectsails.c
 
I have been working on this and it seems to work fine. See <a href="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=8021&pid=158094&st=0&#" target="_blank">here</a>. I am going to release my recent changes soon. Tomorrow hopefully. I hope you will enjoy my changes.

However, I still need to figure out a way to use both the AoP AND the PotBS textures in the game at once, because they both look excellent. At the moment, I have set it up so that only one set of sails is in use at any given time. It is also not (yet) possible to choose which white sails you want to use in the Choose Sails interface.

If anyone has any ideas how to use both sails in the game at once, please say so. I have some ideas: Different white sails for different nations. And possibly DO add the red crosses on the Spanish sails (I believe the Spanish did use sail emblems every now and then).

I wonder if I am wanting to make this mod too complicated. Anyway: I have something that works for now and maybe I'll improve it again at a later time. Major thanks to Seb for providing the sails.

Note: The AoP emblemed sails are not used at the moment.
 
I attached some screenshots. I think it looks really nice. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
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