Praise, comments, questions and suggestions

Pieter Boelen · Nov 11, 2004

Ahoy guys, :cheers

First I want to say that I am highly impressed with the modding you've done. You changed the Pirates of the Caribbean game from being a rather mediocre game to not a whole new level, but to levels beyond that! This is the game how it should be and I'm really enjoying it.

However, playing Build 11.99e for a bit, I noticed some strange things:
- Apparently, when talking to someone who offers to learn you some fencing skills, the options for learning defensive and offensive seem to have been swapped. I selected offensive (the second from the top), but I got the message that my defensive skills had increased.
- By using the 'side-step' function, you can walk right through everything.
- 'Quick-savegames' have a "Bad Save" loge, but still do load when pressing F9.
- The Captain Jack Sparrow skin currently in the mod isn't the best available. Check out this version. I believe this is a second, improved version by the maker of the original one, but I could very well be mistaken here... I found it at the PirateHideout website.
- I can't add my nation's logo to my sails. Do you need a high class ship to be able to do that?
- I can't find the blacksmith on Douwesen! Any help?
Edit: Never mind. I already found him. When I first came to Douwesen in search of him, I arrived at night, so I missed him at the port and couldn't find him in the town. Silly me. :facepalm

BTW: To reach Douwesen, I had to fight some pirates and one of them lost all theair masts. LOL! :woot

Also: I thought up something that might make a nice new mod. I am unable to mod myself (I can only make 3D models ('sort-of'), but 3D Studio MAX doesn't work at the moment and I only model ships for another game, Virtual Sailor anyway - Come to think of it, maybe some of you might be interested in that game. It features several 'pirate-type ships as well. Maybe those could be converted to PotC?).
Anyway, in case anyone's interested in my mod idea, here it is:
I'm a big fan of the PotC movie and find it a shame that there isn't much movie 'tie-in' in the game. I was thinking, maybe the main storyline could be changed just a little bit to add more movie 'tie-in':
- Nathaniel Hawk (or whatever name you've given him) is actually Bootstrap Bill after he was thrown overboard the Black Pearl. He survived since he was cursed and was found by Malcolm Hatcher (who is captain of the lugger "Victory", who took a liking to him. Only he did lose his memory, so he doesn't know he is Bootstrap Bill anymore. He still is cursed though, which explains why he survives when he's killed or sinks, only he does get injured. When arriving in Oxbay at the start of the game, Malcolm doesn't want to sail anymore and gives the Victory to Nathaniel/Bootstrap.
- Replace the two "cursed pirates" in the "Deliver the chest" quest with pirates we know: Pintel and Ragetti, for example.
- Give the man on Falaise de Fleur dialog that is actually consistent with the movie (what he currently says doesn't agree what is known about the curse from the movie) and add the fact that he recognises Nathaniel as being Bootstrap.
- Make the blacksmith (who I cannot find) look like Will Turner and add a governor's daughter looking like Elizabeth.
- Add more music to the game, including tracks from the PotC movie, but possibly also music from other piratey movies (such as Cutthroat Island, Treasure Planet, etc.)
- Etc, etc...

If anyone is interested in doing something like that, please let me know. Though I can't help with the actual coding, I would be happy to help providing the dialogs and music.

Hope to hear from you soon. And good luck in the meantime. Can't wait for Build 12.

Drunken · Nov 11, 2004

<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :cheers

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<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hi.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":gday" border="0" alt="hi.gif" /> WELCOME ABOARD! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hi.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":gday" border="0" alt="hi.gif" />

Glad you're enjoying the mods. I will try to respond to the things you said.
Now, lets go in the order you went: <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/diomed.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":dio" border="0" alt="diomed.gif" />

<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bookish.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":mm" border="0" alt="bookish.gif" />

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Apparently, when talking to someone who offers to learn you some fencing skills, the options for learning defensive and offensive seem to have been swapped. I selected offensive (the second from the top), but I got the message that my defensive skills had increased. </div>- Haven't experienced that

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>By using the `side-step` function, you can walk right through everything. </div>- Yeah, known thing... You can take awesome screens using that feature, LOL! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :rolleyes:

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>`Quick-savegames` have a "Bad Save" loge, but still do load when pressing F9. </div>- Which one is the quicksave button? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huhh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :eek:

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>The Captain Jack Sparrow skin currently in the mod isn't the best available. Check out this version. I believe this is a second, improved version by the maker of the original one, but I could very well be mistaken here... I found it at the PirateHideout website. </div>- Downloading now... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" />

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I can't add my nation's logo to my sails. Do you need a high class ship to be able to do that? </div>- Yes, Class 2 or up, IIRC. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mellow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":|" border="0" alt="mellow.gif" />

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I can't find the blacksmith on Douwesen! Any help?
Edit: Never mind. I already found him. When I first came to Douwesen in search of him, I arrived at night, so I missed him at the port and couldn't find him in the town. Silly me. </div>- You've found him. Good. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>BTW: To reach Douwesen, I had to fight some pirates and one of them lost all theair masts. LOL! </div>- It happens. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :cheeky

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I am not a modder, so I cannot say anything about your proposals. (Sounds good tho!) Oh, about the PotC music, you can find it in the Mods database along with Master & Commander and Pirates! Gold music, <a href="http://www.mods.piratesahoy.net" target="_blank">HERE</a>. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

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HAVE AN ALE! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/beer2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":beer" border="0" alt="beer2.gif" />

Cheers,

CatalinaThePirate · Nov 12, 2004

<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hi.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":gday" border="0" alt="hi.gif" /> <b>Pieter Boelen, </b>and welcome aboard! Have an ale! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/beer2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":beer" border="0" alt="beer2.gif" />

Drunken hit upon most of your questions/concerns/comments, so I'll just say AHOY and I like your ideas! That would indeed be fun to implement!

Glad to hear you are a modeler! We are currently awash (well, sort of) with coders, but bereft of modelers - so this is a good thing! I took a look at that Virtual Sailor site - very interesting! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/onya.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :onya

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You should take a look at the ships (and characters!) models in PotC - you could either modify them or build new ones...

Here are some tools and tutorials you will need to work with PotC files in 3DSMax - <a href="http://robotsdontbleed.com/wacko/wakka.php?wakka=POTCwiki" target="_blank">http://robotsdontbleed.com/wacko/wakka.php...?wakka=POTCwiki</a>

The best mods often come from someone saying, "...I wonder if..." <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :cheeky

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Pieter Boelen · Nov 13, 2004

Thanks for the warm welcome guys. I doubt I'll be a very active member, but I might try and do something useful some day.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>- Which one is the quicksave button?</div>The F5 button, I think...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>- Downloading now...</div>I made a small change to the file I uploaded: I forgot to add the ReadMe file with credits and installation instructions. Stupid me! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":c" border="0" alt="mad.gif" />
BTW: You like it as much as I do?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>- Yes, Class 2 or up, IIRC.</div>Class 2 are the really large ships, right? With class 1 being the largest? Hmm. Can't we have logo's on lower class ships? I want the Dutch Amsterdam logo on my sails. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :cheeky

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>You've found him. Good.</div>Yeah. And it's great. However: There are a few little things that might be changed:
1) Since I was playing with Nathaniel Hawk myself, it was a bit odd to have the blacksmith look the same.
2) Would be nice to have blacksmiths and gunsmiths on all islands in their own store (similar to what you did to the tailor's shops)
3) You can now improve your weapon's quality. How about the weapon's quality decreasing over time too? So that you need to either repair your sword or buy a new one every now and then?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Oh, about the PotC music, you can find it in the Mods database along with Master & Commander and Pirates! Gold music</div>I know about the PotC music mod, but I was thinking of adding extra music tracks instead of replacing the default ones...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>HAVE AN ALE!</div>I know you're going to hate me for saying this, but I don't drink alcohol. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
(Ok. Now I've done it. Better get outta here before all hell breaks loose. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

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When I finally get my programs to work, I might look into modeling some pirate vessels. But I haven't tried anything of the sort yet (and, frankly, I doubt I'd be good enough for that. I'm quite sure I'm not good enough on adding good `wood-textures`...). If you are interested in seeing what I modeled before now:
- <a href="http://www.`static-lift`.net/~vsshipyard/`add-ons`/boats/images/full_images/de_pijlinktvis.jpg" target="_blank">De Pijlinktvis</a> (fictional submarine - My first model, but not a very good one)
- <a href="http://www.`static-lift`.net/~vsshipyard/`add-ons`/boats/images/full_images/atlantic_challenge.jpg" target="_blank">Atlantic Challenge</a> (raceboat - Second model, not very good either)
- <a href="http://www.`static-lift`.net/~vsshipyard/`add-ons`/boats/images/full_images/ever_renown.jpg" target="_blank">Ever Renown</a> (Large cargoship - Third one: a lot better than my first two)
- <a href="http://www.`static-lift`.net/~vsshipyard/`add-ons`/boats/images/full_images/ms_bremen.jpg" target="_blank">MS Bremen</a> (Cruiseship - By far my best one)

There are some boats for this Virtual Sailor that might work for PotC too, though:
<a href="http://www.`static-lift`.net/~vsshipyard/`add-ons`/boats/images/full_images/conure.jpg" target="_blank">Conure</a>
<a href="http://www.`static-lift`.net/~vsshipyard/`add-ons`/boats/images/full_images/enchantress.jpg" target="_blank">Enchantress</a>
<a href="http://www.`static-lift`.net/~vsshipyard/`add-ons`/boats/images/full_images/hms_bounty.jpg" target="_blank">HMS Bounty</a>
<a href="http://www.`static-lift`.net/~vsshipyard/`add-ons`/boats/images/full_images/hms_victory.jpg" target="_blank">HMS Victory</a>
<a href="http://www.`static-lift`.net/~vsshipyard/`add-ons`/boats/images/full_images/toulonnaise.jpg" target="_blank">La Toulonnaise</a>
<a href="http://www.`static-lift`.net/~vsshipyard/`add-ons`/boats/images/full_images/nina.jpg" target="_blank">NiÃ±a</a>
<a href="http://www.`static-lift`.net/~vsshipyard/`add-ons`/boats/images/full_images/pinta.jpg" target="_blank">Pinta</a>
<a href="http://www.`static-lift`.net/~vsshipyard/`add-ons`/boats/images/full_images/royal_caroline.jpg" target="_blank">Royal Caroline</a>
<a href="http://www.`static-lift`.net/~vsshipyard/`add-ons`/boats/images/full_images/santa_maria.jpg" target="_blank">Santa Maria</a>
<a href="http://www.`static-lift`.net/~vsshipyard/`add-ons`/boats/images/full_images/smok.jpg" target="_blank">Smok</a>
<a href="http://www.`static-lift`.net/~vsshipyard/`add-ons`/boats/images/full_images/cutty_sark.jpg" target="_blank">Cutty Sark</a> (Bit too modern, perhaps?)
<a href="http://forums.simflight.com/files/003_152.jpg" target="_blank">Santissima Trinidad</a> (Probably a bit too heavy on the FPS)
<a href="http://forums.simflight.com/files/fps_drop.jpg" target="_blank">USS Constitution</a> (W.I.P. Probably too modern too and will be <i>very</i> FPS heavy)

Anyhow: If anyone is wanting to give me a hand with coding that PotC storyline mod, please say so as I am unable to do it myself. (I basically have no knowledge about it at all <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

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BTW: I'll try and keep posting weird things in the game, as well as new ideas for mods when I find them. If you don't mind, that is...
Warning: On the <a href="http://forums.simflight.com/viewforum.php?f=32" target="_blank">Virtual Sailor Support Forum</a>, I am `well-known` for my extensive posts. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

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Pieter Boelen · Nov 13, 2004

By the way: Some more comments and questions I just thought about:
- Any chance of anyone giving me a short summary of what has been changed/added in build 11.99e over build 11 and what we can still look forward to in build 12?
- I remember reading somewhere about the different `officer-types` now using different models. Is that implemented?
- Are there now female officers every now and then?
- How to use armor? I never found anything with armor in the game yet. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
- It's really annoying when, during boarding, you just can't see which crewmembers are yours and which are not. Or can you see that somehow? If not, that might be an idea for a mod...

Something that has nothing to do with PotC, but does have something to do with the forum:
- When clicking on a poster's name, the link goes to "java script:emoticon('[b ]Poster's Name[/b]<br />, ')". I take it that this should point to the poster's profile "http://forum.piratesahoy.net/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=####" instead?
- When posting a message and trying to change the font colour, it doesn't work, because it adds "<span style='`font-size`:7pt;`line-height`:100%'>text</span>" instead of "<span style='color:color'>text</span>". When changing "size" into "color" manually, it does work.
- At the "View more Emoticons" page, the "Close Window" can't be read, because it's the same colour as the background.
- Oh: And what does this "Landlubber" mean. It's true, of course, but I still wonder what it's doing there...
Just to let you know. Hope it can be fixed...

Drunken · Nov 13, 2004

Hi Pieter, me again... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Thanks for the warm welcome guys. I doubt I'll be a very active member, but I might try and do something useful some day. </div> "Ah, good to see you, AND your money!" Trader <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>quote:

- Downloading now...

I made a small change to the file I uploaded: I forgot to add the ReadMe file with credits and installation instructions. Stupid me!
BTW: You like it as much as I do? </div>Yeah, I like. In fact, I like a lot! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/duel_pa.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":ixi" border="0" alt="duel_pa.gif" />

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>quote:

- Yes, Class 2 or up, IIRC.

Class 2 are the really large ships, right? With class 1 being the largest? Hmm. Can't we have logo's on lower class ships? I want the Dutch Amsterdam logo on my sails. </div>No, sorry, Class 3. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :facepalm

" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" /> That's the Brig, and the like...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>quote:

You've found him. Good.

Yeah. And it's great. However: There are a few little things that might be changed:
1) Since I was playing with Nathaniel Hawk myself, it was a bit odd to have the blacksmith look the same.
2) Would be nice to have blacksmiths and gunsmiths on all islands in their own store (similar to what you did to the tailor's shops)
3) You can now improve your weapon's quality. How about the weapon's quality decreasing over time too? So that you need to either repair your sword or buy a new one every now and then? </div>Pieter, as you might've noticed, the Blacksmith mod is ina very early stage of development, it has endless possibilites. Maybe it will be YOU who'll make a fantastic blacksmith model! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :rolleyes:

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>quote:

Oh, about the PotC music, you can find it in the Mods database along with Master & Commander and Pirates! Gold music

I know about the PotC music mod, but I was thinking of adding extra music tracks instead of replacing the default ones... </div>I don't think it replaces everything... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>quote:

HAVE AN ALE!

I know you're going to hate me for saying this, but I don't drink alcohol.
(Ok. Now I've done it. Better get outta here before all hell breaks loose. ) </div>Then have a keg of apple juice! Arrr! Dat be one of dem veeery piratey drinks! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/buds.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :drunk

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>When I finally get my programs to work, I might look into modeling some pirate vessels. But I haven't tried anything of the sort yet (and, frankly, I doubt I'd be good enough for that. I'm quite sure I'm not good enough on adding good `wood-textures`...). If you are interested in seeing what I modeled before now:
- De Pijlinktvis (fictional submarine - My first model, but not a very good one)
- Atlantic Challenge (raceboat - Second model, not very good either)
- Ever Renown (Large cargoship - Third one: a lot better than my first two)
- MS Bremen (Cruiseship - By far my best one) </div>
They look very good! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/onya.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :onya

" border="0" alt="onya.gif" />

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Anyhow: If anyone is wanting to give me a hand with coding that PotC storyline mod, please say so as I am unable to do it myself. (I basically have no knowledge about it at all ) </div>No problem at all. As Catalina says, we have plenty of coders who are EXTREMELY HELPFUL! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :yes

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>By the way: Some more comments and questions I just thought about:
- Any chance of anyone giving me a short summary of what has been changed/added in build 11.99e over build 11 and what we can still look forward to in build 12?
- I remember reading somewhere about the different `officer-types` now using different models. Is that implemented?
- Are there now female officers every now and then?
- How to use armor? I never found anything with armor in the game yet.
- It's really annoying when, during boarding, you just can't see which crewmembers are yours and which are not. Or can you see that somehow? If not, that might be an idea for a mod... </div>- Changes: too numerous to list!
- `Officer-types`: don't think so...
- There are, but, to keep them female, you have to use the Danielle model on them, because the other female models don't have the sword locators on them, or what.
- You can use armor by using the dutch, spanish or porteugese soldier skins.
- You can set the crewmembers to soldiers of a nation, then you can distinguish them from the others. In fact, that's the idea of a boarding, you don't know who's with who on a cramped deck.

Cheers,

Pieter Boelen · Nov 13, 2004

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>No, sorry, Class 3. :facepalm

That's the Brig, and the like...</div>Great! I hoped I could get myself a brig with logo's on the sails. Thanks! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :woot

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Pieter, as you might've noticed, the Blacksmith mod is ina very early stage of development, it has endless possibilites. Maybe it will be YOU who'll make a fantastic blacksmith model!</div>You're right about that, but don't count on me being the one to do a blacksmith model! I'm not the best modeler you can find and modeling people is something I don't even have to try: No chance of succeeding on that...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I don't think it replaces everything... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /></div>For all I know, it does, but I could be mistaken here.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>They look very good! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/onya.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :onya

" border="0" alt="onya.gif" /></div>Glad you like them.
BTW: If you are interested in either Virtual Sailor or those models, you can get a demo from the <a href="http://www.avsim.com/vs" target="_blank">official site</a> and try them out...

Well. When I have time some day, I'll try and do something with that music and PotC movie mod. Hope that'll be soon. But I will defenitly be needing help, of course. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

And a lot of thanks for replying! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

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(BTW: I just <i>love</i> the piratey emoticons. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

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<span style='color:red'>Edit:</span>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>- Changes: too numerous to list!</div> LOL! Then I'll just have to find out myself. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :cheeky

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>- There are, but, to keep them female, you have to use the Danielle model on them, because the other female models don't have the sword locators on them, or what.</div>I have seen females with swords walking around the cities. Not sure about guns. Would be fun to have a nice female pirate with you. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :woot

" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" />
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>- You can use armor by using the dutch, spanish or porteugese soldier skins.</div>Ah! Now I see! Thanks a lot!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>- You can set the crewmembers to soldiers of a nation, then you can distinguish them from the others. In fact, that's the idea of a boarding, you don't know who's with who on a cramped deck.</div>Whahaha! True, very true.
BTW: Maybe the crewmembers with darker clothes are the ones you're fighting? Not sure, but it might be worth to try and find out...

Drunken · Nov 13, 2004

I'm Mr. `Fast-reply`! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

Is the Virtual Sailor thingy a trial version of the full game, or has it got disabled functions, or BOTH? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huhh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :eek:

k" border="0" alt="huhh.gif" /> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I don't think it replaces everything...

For all I know, it does, but I could be mistaken here. </div>It doesn't, I had a look at the RESOURCEINIALIASESmusic_alias.ini, and it still has the old music, along with the new. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :yes

" border="0" alt="yes.gif" /><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>BTW: I just love the piratey emoticons. </div>Me too! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/urgh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":urgh" border="0" alt="urgh.gif" /><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>LOL! Then I'll just have to find out myself. </div>Sorry I can't help, but I think that only the creators have a full list.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I have seen females with swords walking around the cities. Not sure about guns. Would be fun to have a nice female pirate with you. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :woot

" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" /></div>About them running around with cutlasses and sabers, yet, I've seen them too, but the female officer I hired didn't want to equip anything. :x<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Ah! Now I see! Thanks a lot!</div>My pleasure!<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Whahaha! True, very true.
BTW: Maybe the crewmembers with darker clothes are the ones you're fighting? Not sure, but it might be worth to try and find out...</div>You can't injure your crewmates. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/no.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :no

" border="0" alt="no.gif" />

Pieter Boelen · Nov 13, 2004

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I'm Mr. `Fast-reply`!</div>Yeah. That's what I was going to say myself. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Is the Virtual Sailor thingy a trial version of the full game, or has it got disabled functions, or BOTH?</div>The version freely available for download is a demo version. It has a time limit of five minutes and doesn't allow for more than five boats and one scenery to be installed at one time (but, by replacing some of the default ones with the ones you downloaded, you can still try them out). However, this is more than enough to try everything out for yourself. The full version costs $25 and doesn't have these limits.
(Hmm. I sound like I'm promoting VS (=short for Virtual Sailor) instead of writing `PotC-related` posts. Suppose I should quit doing that before I get kicked from the forum for it. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/oops3.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :eek:

ops2" border="0" alt="oops3.gif" /> )

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>It doesn't, I had a look at the RESOURCEINIALIASESmusic_alias.ini, and it still has the old music, along with the new.</div>I remember it overwriting your original .ogg files... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

Once again: Thanks for your reply. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

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CatalinaThePirate · Nov 13, 2004

<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :facepalm

" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" /> You two wear me out! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

Thanks about the piratey emoticons, I did up a lot of them, with others being added by Keith, Sampow, & DonkeyPirate. We have waaaaay too much fun with the smileys here, haha! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :cheeky

" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />

There will be an official "ReadMe" with the full release of Build 12, most excellently compiled and made enjoyably readable by SirChristopherMings. COMING SOON... Still have some bugs to work out, but we're getting there. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/onya.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :onya

" border="0" alt="onya.gif" />

If you would like something fun to do in Build 11.99e, go find Fred Bob the Boatswain... If you sail to Falaise de Fleur and talk to the `wharf-rat` Orable Caron (he's standing by the stairs to the harbormaster's office), he'll tell you about some rumors - just keep asking him, and he'll eventually ask you if you need a good Boatswain... Once you hire Fred Bob, remember to deliver that letter he gives you... I think you'll like the quest, it's quite enjoyable if I do say so myself (I made it!).

You are not the only one among us who doesn't drink, Pieter... Mainly it's just an amiable social expression, anyhow (HEH!) - you can have a `non-alcohol` ale, if you wish! Or Tamarinde... Orange squash... Apple juice... Root Beer! (yummm!) Lemonade (keeps away scurvy!). <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :cheers

" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />

We had a lot more modelers here before, who might be able to work with you on getting some of those ships into the game... Not sure where they all are, these days (school, work, real life).

<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :woot

" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" /> Actually, a submarine in the game would be fun, LOL!!! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

NathanKell · Nov 13, 2004

Welcome to PA!

Hey! Another of the lemonade school! Yay.
I was feeling outnumbered. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

First, regarding officers.
`Tavern-hired` officers have specialties based on their models, yes.
Female models are not included in the model list for tavern officers because they lack sit animations and thus do not appear at the table in the tavern (this is apart from the locator problem*). _However_, once you've hired an officer you can give them female "clothes" fine (they don't need to sit again).
*The locator problem is this: The Danielle model, like the male models, has both sword and gun locators. A few other female models have sword locators. The rest have neither.

Note also that there is a very slight chance that if you talk to a vagabond, they'll actually be an `out-of`-work officer (even if the vagabond is female!). This is the only way to hire a female officer directly. (*New in b12*)

Regarding music. Due to the new `PGMUS-handling` in b12, you will have to manually edit music_alias.ini, not drop in a new one (because the number of entries doubled, with the duplicates being the PGMUS versions). That's to allow `on-the`-fly (well, exit `game-change` BS.`h-restart` `on-the`-fly...) changing between normal and Pirates! Gold music.

NathanKell · Nov 13, 2004

Yes, the `darker-clothed` scalawags are the pirates; the `lighter-clothes` ones are The True And Just.

But as mentioned above, you can tweak boarding models to your heart's content; just remember to reinit afterwards.

NathanKell · Nov 13, 2004

Oh, and regarding the `name-clicking`.
There's a separate profile button (next to PM and email) on all our posts; so instead of double duty for the name, it's set up so you don't have to retype the name of the person you're replying to.

(At least that's how I understand it)

Drunken · Nov 13, 2004

The Godfather of the Archipelago has arrived to clear things up! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> Thanks, Nathan, I only remember things vaguely, so... My memory is beginning to fade... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":c" border="0" alt="mad.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

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NathanKell · Nov 14, 2004

ROTFL, I still wonder how that name got traction...

I was just adding detail; SFAICT you were indeed correct. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

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CatalinaThePirate · Nov 14, 2004

Nathan, I found someone in the game who mentioned the Godfather of the Archipelago, "the notorious Nathan Kell", and I took a screenshot of it. I brought it up the other day and I guess it's romping around the boards again. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

<b>Pieter Boelen, </b> When you click on the name above the avatar and rank pic, you get a <div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'>Pieter Boelen<br />,</div> that shows up in your typed "quick reply" window. It's so you don't have to type the person's name when you want to reply to them. The code as the script creates it, does this:

<b>Pieter Boelen</b><br />,

However, it's wrong for this phpBB. I always delete the <br/>. and put a comma inside the bracketed "b"'s so it comes out how you see your name the first time up above.

The Profile button should take you to the profile of the registered user.

Pieter Boelen · Nov 20, 2004

To CatalinaThePirate: Thanks a lot to everybody contributing to the smileys. They really are great. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/onya.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :onya

" border="0" alt="onya.gif" />

I read the new Build 12 readme, but found large parts of it a bit too technical for me to understand. Especially the explanations for a lot of Nathan Kell's new mods. But that is just because I don't have enough modding knowledge to know what it means. Shame on me! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

I played the Fred Bob quest (but because me nephew also played my game at the time, I missed part of it) and I will try it again soon. It's really, really great fun! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :woot

" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" />

If I had a submarine in the game, the French wouldn't stand a chance! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />:

To Nathan Kell: The godfather of the archipelago himself welcome me [blushes] and even liking lemonade too! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_eek.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :shock

:" border="0" alt="icon_eek.gif" />

I understand about the female officers. Is it possible to buy female "clothes"? I don't remember seeing any in the tailor's shops. But then, I didn't spend much time bothering with the tailor's shops. Maybe I should some time...

I'll see what I can do about the music. Hope I'll be able to add some extra tracks. I've got plenty of great ones (being a `movie-music` fan). It is possible to add an extra line in the music_alias.ini for additional tracks, right? Is it also possible to change the music played in the main menu to something more "main theme"-like, but without replacing the coridor.ogg? I'd like to add either the PotC "He's a Pirate" track or the Cutthroat Island "Main Title: Morgan's Ride" track instead.
Thanks a lot for all your answers! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" />

BTW: I got some more questions:
(I'm still trying to install Build 12 at the moment - having trouble every time "buildsettings.h" is involved in the installation process - so these questions are based on Build 11.99e)
1) Why do I hardly encounter any scrapper pistols, Solingen rapiers and Man'Owars (in shipyards)?
2) How can you buy sails? I remember it said something to that effect in the ReadMe.
3) How to `re-add` the Build 11 style Dutch sails? In Build 11.99 they were replaced.

More questions likely to be posted soon - BEWARE! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

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Pieter Boelen · Nov 20, 2004

WAAAAH! Installer KEEPS saying "Cannot open "C:GamesPirates of the CaribbeanPROGRAMbuildsetting.h"! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/diomed.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":dio" border="0" alt="diomed.gif" />
<span style='color:red'>Edit:</span> It is working; just not properly. Suppose I might need to do a clean install yet again. Ah. Well. Shame, but it is as it is... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :eek:

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Inez Dias · Nov 20, 2004

Hi Pieter,

Can't help with the build problms, but I have a question myself:
You talk about converting ships from Virtual Sailor to POTC- are those models publicly available anywhere? And if so, in which format ?

<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hi.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":gday" border="0" alt="hi.gif" />

NathanKell · Nov 20, 2004

Pieter Boelen said:
I read the new Build 12 readme, but found large parts of it a bit too technical for me to understand. Especially the explanations for a lot of Nathan Kell's new mods. But that is just because I don't have enough modding knowledge to know what it means. Shame on me! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

Well, a lot of it's pretty esoteric stuff, so don't worry. Sir Christopher did an excellent job of `English-izing` it though. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
And a number of them are just fixes to fixes. So it may say "fix to time accel behaviour" and it really means, fix to the _previous_ time accel fix. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happy.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="^_^" border="0" alt="happy.gif" />

To Nathan Kell: The godfather of the archipelago himself welcome me [blushes] and even liking lemonado too! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_eek.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":" border="0" alt="icon_eek.gif" />

:] <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/oops3.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :eek:

ops2" border="0" alt="oops3.gif" />

{And re godfather...I really have to send a hit team to get CCC for that... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happy.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="^_^" border="0" alt="happy.gif" />}

I understand about the female officers. Is it possible to but female "clothes"? I don't remember seeing any in the tailor's shops. But then, I didn't spend much time bothering with the tailor's shops. Maybe I should some time...

I don't recall whether they are available normally. However, if you turn Debug Mode on*, you can put the tailor into tailor debug mode, where _all_ outfits are offered. But be careful, some may not have pistol or sword locators.

*put
DEBUG = 1;
in the console and hit F12 during the game. When you want to turn it off again, change the 0 to 1 in console.c and hit F12 again.

I'll see what I can do about the music. Hope I'll be able to add some extra tracks. I've got plenty of great ones (being a `movie-music` fan). It is possible to add an extra line in the music_alias.ini for additional tracks, right? Is it also possible to change the music played in the main menu to something more "main theme"-like, but without replacing the coridor.ogg? I'd like to add either the PotC "He's a Pirate" track or the Cutthroat Island "Main Title: Morgan's Ride" track instead.

Sure. Just add another name = XXXXXX.ogg under the correct subheading.
In fact, if you're serious about a whole music _pack_, you can add a whole new set of headings, like the PGMUS ones, so the pack can be toggled on and off without editing the music_alias.ini file. For every heading there is currently a "HeadingX" and a "HeadingX_PGMUS" version; just add a third "HeadingX_YOURPACKNAME" heading.
Then add a define to BuildSettings.h below PGMUS (modeled on PGMUS) and add code in sounds.c (modeled on the PGMUS code there) to allow enabling your pack.

PS, in build 12 there is now a separate [music_main_menu] heading, so yes you can have separate main menu music.

Just be warned: music added to the game is very faint, so if you think it's not working, turn up your music volume before swearing at POTC. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

BTW: I got some more questions:
(I'm still trying to install Build 12 at the moment - having trouble every time "buildsettings.h" is involved in the installation process - so these questions are based on Build 11.99e)
1) Why do I hardly encounter any scrapper pistols, Solingen rapiers and Man'Owars (in shipyards)?
2) How can you buy sails? I remember it said something to that effect in the ReadMe.
3) How to `re-add` the Build 11 style Dutch sails? In Build 11.99 they were replaced.

Please see the bottom of the big sticky thread for a potential solution to b12 woes.

1. Because they're rare. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />
You can change item rarity in inititems.c, by (perversely) _increasing_ itm.rare = XX.YY;
Right now both have very low values and are thus very rare. Also, they have minimum level requirements; rarity is also affected by how far above the min level you are and how high your luck skill is.
MOW are also rare; only big towns will have them, and only occassionally. The chance is, IIRC one in (eight - ship class).
2. I don't at the moment recall. That's Kieron's baby, and he's sadly absent at the moment. If you go into F2->Sails, you should be able to pick sails.
3. if you can find the old textures, just rename them to whatever the new Dutch sail textures' names are and overwrite the new ones with them.

[qupte]More questions likely to be posted soon - BEWARE! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

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Looking forward to 'em. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

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